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Founders Nemesis 2010 | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2010Founders Nemesis 2010
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: American Barleywine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by mcann2pu on 07-29-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
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Reviews:
507
Ratings:
934
pDev:
10.53%
Bros Score:
4.2
 
 
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Photo of saintwarrick
4.12/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour is a very dark blood crimson with a light tannish head. Lots of hops in the nose, hop oils and citrusy brown sugar. Taste follows that, a bit of sweetness followed by a good intense bitterness. Very heavy taste with a good bit of alcohol showing through. Not a lot of the 12 percent is hiding here. Still a great barley wine, very good for the style, but definitely a brew that can be aged. Good stuff.

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Photo of Axic10
4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at the Pickering Creek Inn.

Appearance: Dark black with half a finger of head that quickly settles.

Smell: Sweetness from the malt, dark candied fruits and hops.

Taste: Very sweet malt, toffee, candied fruit, hoppy bite.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied and pretty smooth.

Drinkability: Definitely think this was served way too cold, but as it warmed up it really started to shine. Looking forward to seeing what a little age in the bottle will do to this one. I prefer this to the 2009 version.

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Photo of mostpoetsdo
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a super dark brown, near black, with amber streaks when holding it to light. On top, sits a cake-like dark tan head, dissipating to a small light brown pool, with splotches of sticky lacing on the side.

S: The first couple whiffs can give one sugar shock. Smells like someone covered the top with sugar and lit it up with a blowtorch. Next come the notes of strong, candied dark fruits, along with a combination of chocolate and pine hops. Boozy chocolate covered cherries come to mind. In addition to all this is some black licorice at the end, wow.

T: The first couple sips bring bitter hops, burnt apples covered in crispy brown sugar, and a big dose of booze. Once comfortable, the chocolate really comes out, with an abundance of dark fruit. Rich malt is fairly dominant, with a hint of vanilla that adds to the experience.

M: This is a full body, chewy consistency, with carbonation not too high, but fitting for the style. Alcohol comes through strongly, but of course it would be at 12%.

D: This is an obvious sipper. Sit back and just enjoy this one.

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Photo of djmichaelk
4.17/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle courtesy of AGDMainer (thanks Abe!) into a perfect pint.

A - Deep auburn brown, with amber highlights. Not much of a head, even at nearly room temperature, which is maybe to be expected given the high abv. Nice rings of lace on the glass.

S - Very barleywine-ish, with lots of brown sugar and toffee, backed by plenty of piney hops and a little earth. Reminiscent of Bigfoot, but more on the sweet side.

T - Like my first Bigfoot, this took a few sips for me to center myself on it. Bitterness from the hops is more pronounced, and then the usual barleywine flavors come in, with toffee and burnt sugar, then some sweet tobacco and earth. Very nice, definitely one of the better-tasting barleywines I've had. Some heat, but I'm surprised at how little. It's hidden reasonably well.

M - Thick and viscous without being syrupy. Light carbonation that works perfectly in this one.

D - Would be on the low side ordinarily with this high an abv, but the flavors and feel are so good that I have to bump it up a little. I'd reach for anther if I had one.

O - This is a very good beer, with the potential to develop into an outstanding one. I'd love to try this again in a year. I'll be looking for more of this for sure.

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Photo of TKEbeerman
4.5/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Courtesy of Coryking. What a great extra.

Poured into my SN XXX glass this brew pours a very very dark brown with ruby highlights. The head is quick to die out, but does manage to leave some lacing.

S: Very strong citrus/pinny hop aroma. Sweet caramel in the background. I'm not getting chocolate, but this brew has a sweetness to it.

T: The flavor of Nemesis is the epitome of an American Barleywine. 100IBU tough wrecking bitter hoppyness. This is how I like the American version of this style. Hops are pinny with small fruit hints. Carmel malt sweetens the brew and gives it backbone to stand on. Alcohol is present in an unusual complementing form.

MF: Mouthfeel is really average, but good. It's medium body, and the carbonation is the same.

D: For 12% ABV and 100IBU you cannot ask for much more. Seriously this is highly drinkable.

Overall, Founders continues to impress me. This is up there with Old Guardian and Old Ruffian as the best barley wine I've had. Man this is a good one.

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Photo of maddogruss
3.55/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Got this on tap at the Cloverleaf Tavern.

A: Pours a dark brown body with a small, tan head with pretty good retention and lacing until the finish.

S: A pretty strong, alcoholic smell with some slightly earthy, floral undertones. Some toffee, but very subtle.

T: A pretty strong, burning alcohol initial taste. Not as evident after a few sips. Permits the more earthy and slightly bitter notes to become evident. Some toffee notes, but those are mostly masked by the alcohol. Earthiness and bitter notes are more evident in the aftertaste.

M: a pretty full-bodied and very smooth mouthfeel. Nice on the palette and pretty solid going down.

D: A nice mouthfeel and taste combination. A strong, warming beer that is pretty solid for the cooler months. Overall, decent drinking beer. I felt that the alcohol might have taken away from the beer a little bit, but overall, still a solid brew.

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Photo of TMoney2591
3.97/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a GameWorks shaker pint glass.

Big thanks to blackhawks87 for this bottle!

Because of Dan, I was able to share a bottle o' this with my boi VDubb86. It pours a very dark, ruby-highlighted brown topped by a very short bit o' foam. The nose comprises blackened pretzels, flowers, caramel, toffee, oak, and chocolate powder. The taste begins with maple syrup-coated caramel and then moves into a more hoppy realm, with notes of orange rind and stinging daisies. The body is a solidly thick medium, with a light carbonation and a syrupy feel. Overall, a very nice b-wine, though not necessarily as spectacular as I expected. I can't wait to see what some age does to this brew...

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Photo of rembrant
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Dilly Deli,Mariemont, Founder's special taps with this,Canadian Breakfast,and Devil Dancer.

pour- Dark, close to black with some deep ruby red,decent head but temporary

aroma- Not a real big nose,all things considered but leads with coffee,assorted fruitiness,assorted darkness and roasts.

Taste Sort of the border of big stout and big barleywine. Gracefully avoids any excess of either style while having some of the best of both.

Big coffee start,a lot like breakfast Stout,however there's soon a complex varity of secondary flavors and a pretty potent hop side to this and it's a full spectrum hops bill tht brings some woodsy pine,some dark fruit tang,some citrus.

hints of all sorts of things seem to pop up and include traces of chocolate,smoke,cherry,orange and everything but fried chicken. Real complex. I suspect if I had more of it I'd have even more impressions but this was the opening act before the Canadian Breakfast got tapped.

Nemesis probably deserves to be the beer of the day.

Mouthfeel...primo,has big body,the heft of a class stout/porter and the grand finish of a good IPA.

Drinkable? Yes,though it's limited availability,it's price,and it's high ABV do limit how much and how often. Even so, this beer is too tasty to get much deduction.

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Photo of ChrisPro
3.61/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle shared with no one :)

Pours super dark brown with a thick mocha head.

Aroma was a strange mix of coffee and pine blasted into your nostrils. Once it tamed down a bit, I got subtle hints of fruit and chocolate, but i feel like it was too much going on.

Flavor was a nice toffee chocolate sweetness, but then an extremely harsh bitter finish.

Mouthfeel was solid. Great carbonation, not too thick.

Overall, I admire the experimentation, but this missed slightly for me.

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Photo of Vdubb86
4.18/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served in a pint glass 6oz pour

Thanks to TMoney2591 for sharing this gem

This pours a viscous dark brown with red twinges and no head to speak of. The smell is quite nice. The aroma reminds of whiskey with cocoa nibs. There is a burnt note upon the caramel malt aroma as well. The taste is of the barley and whiskey that you would expect. There is some nice notes with the taste, but there is some bitterness with the taste. The mouthfell is really very smooth. It is rather drinkable and I can honestly say that this is one of the best barleywines that I've had the good fortune to taste.

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Photo of StlHopHead77
4.43/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Pours out a seriously,inky black with 2 fingers' worth of sturdy khaki head that left considerable sheets of lacing.

S-The nose is strong coffee,orange marmalade,dark chocolate,dark roasted malt,dried dark fruit(date,prune)and some lingerng pine.

T-Slick piney/citric hops upfront with blackstrap molasses,chocolate,burnt toast and grapefruit bitterness with high quality coffee on the finish.

M-Thick,viscous and tangy.A strange blend of styles that actually works quite well.Full but smooth with no indication of the 12% ABV.

D-With no sign of the ABV and a unique flavor profile,I find the drinkability very high on this one.

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Photo of alleykatking
4.23/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had on tap at Fiddler's...review from notes.

A- Poured a deep dark reddish brown color. One and a half finger mocha colored head that shows good retention. Lots of sticky stringy lacing on the sides of the glass.

S- Lots of bready caramel malts here with a hint of toffee. Darker fruits and a ton of hop on the backend. Those seem to be more along a citrus and a little piney at the same time. Light roasted aroma as well in the far back of the nose.

T- Caramel malts with the toffee come out on top first. A light roasted flavor throughout the beer I thought. The hops in this are a little piney but also this balances out the beer a lot. The darker fruits are in hints from the medium to ending of the beer. A very smooth barleywine that tastes amazing fresh.

M- Medium heavy mouthfeel. Carbonation is good for the style. Tons of malt and darker fruit are left on the palate. Some hop tones and alcohol are long into the aftertaste. Medium to heavy drying on the palate from the alcohol. Flavors were well blended even though this is a fresh beer.

D- This was a fantastic beer that I had many many glasses of. I found this to be better than last year's Nemesis. I would have no problem drink many glasses of this and I showed that to myself that night.

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Photo of cpetrone84
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a dark brown color with red edges. the head is a creamy rich toffee color.

S-the nose brings a nice balance of hop and malt. roasted and choclate malts with notes of molasses hit the nose first. ripe juicy plums add some malt sweetness as an assertive spicy herbal hop presence rounds things out.

T-the taste is rather similar and good. roasted malts, chocolate, and molasses are up front and linger thoughout but never become assertive. malty sweetness of juicy ripe plums and a touch of black cherry transition into a touch of orange hops with more herbal hops in the back. an moderate hop bitterness lies in the finish as the roasted malt presence lingers in the mix.

M-full to medium body, not too thick but more chewy than most barleywines. aggressively carbonated with a crisp bite in the finish but creamy on the palate.

D-this is a very well balanced beer with a nice amount of complexity and an ability to mask any and all alcohol. dangerously drinkable for being so big but lucky enough it is a little thick and chewy that its quite filling.

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Photo of carolinabeerguy
4.22/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a Cigar City snifter. Bottled 08/06/10 printed on bottle.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown almost motor oil black with with a minimal tan head which dissipates quickly. Minimal lacing.

Smell: Bittersweet chocolate, toasted/burnt malt and alcohol with hints of citrus and piney hops.

Taste: Sweet citrus hops up front then roasted malt, caramel and chocolate in the middle before an assault of bitter piney hops at the finish. Aftertaste is very bitter. Very complex flavor. A lot going on. I like it.

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied with a decent amount of carbonation. Feels very thick, creamy and a bit sticky. Alcohol provides some warmth at the finish.

Drinkability: High drinkability. This is one to savor and enjoy. Having multiples could spell trouble.

Overall: Excellent beer overall. Another great offering by Founders. I would highly recommend this.

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Photo of ZeroSignal
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Dark...almost black and thick looking. An aggressive pours yields about half an inch of mocha colored head that recedes quickly. Thin, spider-web lacing.

S - After the initial pour a wave of citrus and pine resin hits the nose. A little time yields a chocolate laden malt aroma. When I close my eyes and sniff I swear someone is holding a navel orange in front of my nose.

T&M - Admittedly I'm not getting "barleywine" out of this. My taste buds say a highly hoped stout, but maybe that's just me. Hops from the nose are subtler in the taste but still present. Roasted chocolate malt with hints of espresso and coffee bean. Smooth and creamy with a somewhat dry and earthy finish.

D - Alcohol is very well disguised, and the creamy smoothness makes it easy to drink. I recall liking the 2009 quite a bit, and I think this is better. I also think this one has great age potential. Highly drinkable.

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Photo of jampics2
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a snifter.

In the dictionary, several antonyms are listed for the word 'nemesis' including blessing, good, and godsend. Does that mean Founders is positioning this series of ever-changing strong beers to be the opposite of good? The first release is actually maturing quite nicely after initial booziness, will this one follow in it's footsteps?

Nemesis is dark black, opaque, with some amber highlights and a spotty light tan head. The foam quickly recedes, but that's to be expected with such a high gravity beer. There is little lace to be witnessed, more of a ring of booze like that found in a cognac snifter.

The smell of the beer is pungent and very expressive. Both the hops and malt are really discernable in the mix. The hops give some citrus and pine notes, and the malt is roasty and gives off some chocolate scents of varying darkness. There is also a bit of booze, which keeps this from scoring any higher. An expressive hoppy, malty, boozy bomb.

When I take my first sip, I swear I hear my tastebuds scream. They're blanketed in flavor and drowning in complexities. Nemesis starts off with huge sweetness from the malt, almost reminiscent of dark cherry or raisin. Then, a forest of pine and grapefruit trees slams the palate. The beer is so agressive and the malt seems to drop in and out, re-emerging as roasted coffee and chocolate. Initial sweetness, then hoppiness, the roast, then a lingering bitter taste. This is a roller coaster of flavor, ending in a huge tunnel of booze and bitterness. A beer that will make children cry and women scream.

The beer is thick with creamy carbonation, and has a great mouthfeel. Unfortunately for this batch, it's not the most drinkable right now due to the booze, but the flavors are starting to smooth a bit more than when it was brand new. Hopefully that improves as the months go by and the alcohol starts to die out.

A few years will tell if this beer becomes a legend in its own right. I'm optimistic for this - I think it's already on the way in fact. But, even if Webster disagrees, I can prove this beer is a godsend right now - after all, the word Nemesis does stem from the name of a Greek Goddess of retributive justice. So there, English majors, put that in your snifter and quaff it.

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Photo of Torps
3.93/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Deep, dark chocolate brown with ruby highlights. One finger off white head fizzed out quickly leaving a fine ring of carbonation around the rim. Carbonation climbing the side of the glass leaves me prepped to wet my whistle.
Aroma is sweet roasted malts with piney hops. Hints of vanilla and an earthy grassiness. Taste mirrors the aroma. Very bitter back end. Smooth. Sweet. Smoky. Resinous. Boozy. Chewy. Wait this is bourbon barrel aged? Missed that one.. didn't really stand out to me but I guess that's where all that smokiness and booziness comes in.

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Photo of MasterSki
4.05/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a case of this at the brewery on the release day. I've tried it a few times, but I'm just now sitting down with a bottle. Appears to have been bottled August 6th, 2010. Served in a Half Acre pint glass.

A - Pours with a late-rising crust of tan foam that quickly settles to a thin ring and leaves a few splotches and spots of lace. Body is a very dark brown that reveals some transparency when held up to the light.

S - Brash and zesty pine hops, even at two months old, with a big of grapefruit and lemon rind for good measure. This mingles with smoke, burnt sugars and malt, and spicy alcohol esters. It's boozy, but not out of line for 12%.

T - Taste has a lot more burnt caramel and treacle going on, along with some smoke and chocolate. Very Skor-esque. There's some hefty bitterness in the finish courtesy of the monster hop bill, and fortunately not a lot of alcohol to taste.

M - The feel may be the best thing about this brew. It's a big full-bodied beer with a chewy and viscous texture. Carbonation is quite low, and there's some definite warmth at the back of the throat. But just when you've pegged it as a typical barleywine it ends extremely dry with enamel-melting hop resins.

D - I actually had very little problem putting down 12oz, although I started to get a buzz going about 2/3 of the way through. It's simultaneously boozy and bitter, but not in an overwhelming way. Still, I think having a second bottle would be a mistake.

I bumped up the appearance a half-point because I felt this deserved better than a B+.

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Photo of TCHopCraver
4.17/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes on 9/16/10.

A: Pours a black color with a reddish-brown tint and a small, dark khaki head into my very large snifter. The lacing is really sticky and appears in the form of small dots and long vertical streaks. There are some interesting bubbles developing in the film left on top of the beer.

S: Many separate, but cogent aromas drift out of the glass. Big malty aromas of dark chocolate, caramel, and brown sugar fight for the spotlight with piney and grapefruit hops, as well as the presence of anise and maple syrup. (Is this one brewed in maple barrels?) Also, my nose twinges with alcoholic heat every sniff I take.

T: This is really confusing my palate. It is very sweet and tangy right off the bat, with some astringent chocolate flavors, but it also has an undercurrent of strongly bitter hops nipping at the back of my tongue and sides of the palate. The aftertaste is a mixture of sweeter citrus flavor on the tip of my tongue and dry grapefruit right on the middle of my tongue.

M: Nemesis '10 has a cloying medium feel with a strong bite and dry finish.

D: The high a.b.v. is not very noticeable in the taste, which certainly helps its drinkability. I am certainly going to have repeat tastings of this as it matures with age.

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Photo of Arbitrator
2.66/5  rDev -36.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Chilled bottle into a glass. A very generous extra from Wisconsinality. Thanks, Kylie!

A: Pours a pitch black body with a half-finger of light beige head. It quickly vanishes into a light collar that leaves no lace down the glass. It's nearly opaque, but when I hold it to the light, there's a ruby translucence that reveals it's not fully there.

S: Soapy, old towels: the hop profile on this one screamed "Stone 14th" at me. Euchh. Not to my liking. As I ignore it and pay attention to the rest of the nose, I detect anise, roast, chocolate.

T: That soapiness in the nose is found here, again. I'll be up front: I can't stand this particular hop strain, whatever it is, and it quickly limits how much enjoyment I'm going to get out of the beer. Just the same, I put my aversion aside and enjoy the anise, chocolate, dark fruit (dates, in particular), and roasted malt. A touch of pineapple and leafy green hops are also found. It's well constructed, but the choices of ingredients just don't suit me. My problem, not the beer's.

M: Moderate chewiness; medium-full bodied. It is low in carbonation, with a decent creaminess. Not much heat to it, but there is a slight warmth in the finish.

D: This reminds me of Sierra Nevada's black barleywine, but with a considerably less impressive hop profile. I am glad I tried this, but I'm very glad I didn't get more of it.

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Photo of jthahn
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Served from a bottle, into a snifter.

A - this is a dark beer so appearance is somewhat minimal, but the beer does have a small head with heavy lacing. The beer is clean, not much appearance of sediments.

S - i love the smell of a beer like this, tons of stuff going on. There are some heavy wood scents like oak. It also has that soy sauce smell that 10 dark lord contains.

T - most of the aroma comes through to the palette as well. Additionally there are some chocolate tastes. This is a complex beer with a lot to enjoy. The high abv means that this beer is also a bit boozy on the finish.

M - this is a a thick beer, you can almost chew it. Fitting of the flavor.

D - youll savor the first, but it may be a while before drinking the follow up.

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Photo of Monkeyknife
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the tap a deep black with ruby highlights beneath a huge and rich tan head.

Aroma of dark fruits, toffee, brown sugar and roasted chocolate malts.

The taste definitely reflected the aroma. A medley of dark fruits, roasted malts, chocolate and brown sugar engulf the palate. The warmth from the 12% is present with every drink.

Full bodied and rich with a boozy warmth.

A very enjoyable brew from the folks at Founders and a must try if you get the chance.

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Photo of beergod1
4.2/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Near black pour with Ruby highlights at the edges of the glass and a thick tan head. The smell is heavily roasted and caramelized malts with light hints of chocolate, dark fruit, Alcohol starts to be noticeable when it warms. Just enough hops to balance it out. The flavor is deep and rich like a good Barlywine. Lots of sharp, piny and citrusy hops upfront that fade into velvety chocolate, and burnt caramel. I would like to get more of this to hold for a year....or so.

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Photo of ohmybock
3.32/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

I like Founders a lot, but I have mixed feelings about this brew. It pours nicely and is quite dark, but it doesn't have the opaque blackness of something like an impy stout when held up to the light. That's okay though, since this isn't an impy stout. The profile reminds me quite of bit of Sierra Nevada's recent black barleywine. This one smells better than the SN brew, yet Nemesis doesn't taste as good. Unfortunately, Nemesis has a strong, long-lasting, soapy flavor that ruins it for me. Perhaps that is hop-related and would fade with time, but I'm not sure. Nemesis doesn't strike me as a beer that would benefit with age. Conversely, I think the SN version might improve with age. Neither brew is overly roasty or full-bodied, yet neither is as hoppy in the bitterness/taste/aroma department as I thought they might be for Amercian barleywines. Both brews oddly lack in the malt/body department and are too watery for barleywines (whether they be English, American, black, blonde, or somewhere in-between). To be honest, I don't feel the need to run out and buy more of either one. They were both fun to try once, but for me...that's enough. I'm starting to think I often don't care for the combination of dark/hoppy/sometimes-strong brews. Well, I do enjoy the Imperial Stout from Smuttynose so that's at least one dark, hoppy, strong ale I like. Perhaps there's a Black/Cascadian IPA or two I enjoy at times as well.

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Photo of aerozeppl
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a weird and interesting beer.

A: Black in color. Minimal brown head. Spotty lacing. About what you would expect for the style. Not particularly appealing.

S: Nice sweetness in the nose. Dates. Dark fruit. Roast and chocolate. Tons of hops. Every time you smelled this beer it yielded something else.

T: Sweetness up front.Faded hops that I think was more a factor of everything else beating them into submission. Big malt backbone. Really just a super complex beer. It was almost as if everything you could put into a beer you tasted in this. It reminded me of Sierra Nevada's black barleywine. Really hoppy.

M: Not as thick as I would have though. The carbonation was really nice and worked with the body well.

D: Really nice big beer. A drinka. There was so much going on in this beer. The taste kept changing with temperature. A really great beer.

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Founders Nemesis 2010 from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.18 out of 5 with 934 ratings
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