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Founders Dirty BastardFounders Dirty Bastard

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Brewed with 7 varieties of malt (varies over the years).
50 IBU

Added by Mitchster on 01-03-2003

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Photo of moosiz
4.6/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

poured out of a 12oz. bottle into a snifter.

deep amber/scarlett with minimal head. agressive pour will induce a 1/2 inch creamy head. nice lacing, with the tip or turn of the glass you can see where this brew has been.

sweet caramel and malts with a bit of alcohol. if you hold the glass to your ear you can hear destiny calling.

well balanced with the sweet up front and a bitter bite followed by a "i want another sip" dry finish.

slick but solid mouthfeel with a lingering effect on the bitter, its not to much though, it is well balanced.

if you gravitate towards this style you will drink the stuff out of this, if your trying something new it might take a minute, but if you like. it will grow on you fast and it will go down smooth.

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Photo of coldmeat23
3.83/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 45 degrees

Dark copper colored liquid with light highlights of dark ruby. Almost one-fingers worth of tan foam forms the head. It recedes to a very thin surface covering, rather quickly. Lacing is spotty, but rather sticky.

Huge maltiness, which is expected, what with the purported 10 different kinds of malt used to brew this one. Big yeasty breadiness, also.
The nose is kind of minimal, actually, although it smells very delicious.

Big, bready, biscuity flavors dominate. Large presence of toasted and roasted malts. A nice amount of smoke/char flavor comes through also. Very light hints of caramel and brown sugar.
This is a much drier scotch ale than I expected. Not nearly the amount of swetness that I generally associate with the style. It's deliciously different.

Solid medium bodied brew. Low to medium levels of carbonation. Very smooth, but could use some more creaminess.

A very nice and drinkable bottle, here. The ABV may keep it out of session range, but it's still delicious and goes down easy.

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Photo of aubuc1
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured in to an imperial pint glass.

pours a clear soda like brown with a thin tan head.

sweet malty biscuit smell is very full.

taste is slightly sharp from hops then fades in to rich bread. some pine and then woody on the finish.

the hoppiness keeps this beer crisp yet light. not as syrupy sweet as other scotch ales. a very good beer but different than the norm for the style.

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Photo of GatorBeerNerd
4.27/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz single purchased as part of a 6 pack from Green's in Greenville, SC. Poured into a standard pint glass.

A: Pours a dark brown color with a lot of ruby highlights when held up to the light. There isn't much in the way of head at all. What is there disappears into a ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass. There is very little lacing since there isn't much of anything there to leave any.

S: This one smells like it is going to be a malt bomb like so many in the style. Big roasted malt aroma.

T: A nice caramel malt sweetness dominates the initial flavor. There is some nice sweetness from what tastes like figs. The flavor isn't over the top sweet and actually seems balanced although I do not really pick up any hop notes at all.

M: The body is on the fuller side of medium. The carbonation that is there makes it feel smooth and creamy in the mouth.

D: The alcohol is well hidden in this one. I would have never guessed it was as high as it is. Its sweet but not overly sweet so it goes down pretty fast.

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Photo of IMincedTheKing
4.4/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours mahogany with a small tan head.

The aroma is bready and yeasty, reminiscent of the pretzels I used to bake as a child. Somewhat sweet.

Bready and yeasty on the palate as well. Dark malts and roasty-toasty flavors come through on the back end with a handful of pleasant bitterness. Some smokiness works its way through. I'm kind of worn out on fruit flavors in beer, and thankfully there's none to speak of here. Damn, this stuff is good. The mouthfeel is juicy, creamy, rich, and just about perfect.

Mmm, yum. Founders makes some good beers. I am impressed.

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Photo of Mistofminn
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz stub bottle with a twist off top to pint glass.

Pours a deep mahogany with amber highlights. Produces a tan head, almost toffee colored. Head is small, and doesn't last long. Produces some interesting lacing patterns.

Smell is roasted malts and grains. There is a slight bitter chocolate here too. Mostly roasted malts though.

The taste is actually kind of like a stout. It has toasty malts and bitter chocolate, even some nuttyness and tobacco in there. Lots of caramel and sweet malts. I like this one. Not too much, not too little. The flavors work together nicely to create an overall symphony of taste.

Mouthfeel is very light and creamy. Drinkability is high.

I'm not very familiar with the style, or the brewery. But as I get more accustomed to both, I will come back and give this one another look. But as it stands, this is a solid brew.

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Photo of Buebie
4.16/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a brown 12 ounce bottle into my surly tulip. A semi-rigerous pour produces about an inch of tan head. It sits there for several minutes, before receeding to a quarter inch retention cap. Its foamy in appearance (the head). Plenty of bubble isalnds amidst the head, . Leaving behind some very attractive lace.
The color is a darker borwn with redish copper hues. Becoming a transparent dark red/ merlot like when held to light.
The appearance on this is very good.

Aroma of sweet malt, some mild chocolate grains, fermented red grapes, a touch of roastyness and toasted bread.

Taste is sweet and super malty up front. Some peat smoked roasty grain flavors, bittering from a grassy hop taste and plenty of bitter roasted grains. It reminds me a little of a vienna style malt bomb. Burnt caramel, and a touch of Earl grey herbal flavors.
Its definatly robust and represents the style extremely well. Its not hot, but slightly warm on the swallow. This would be great on a cold winter's night.

Mouthfeel is slick and full bodied. Carbonation present, but beat out by the thicker full bodied feel.

Textbook example of the style with very bold flavors here. Really enjoyed it.

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Photo of supercolter
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I am really impressed with Founders to date.
Appearance is decent- copper colored, some head and almost no lacing.
Smell is good as well- nice maltly burst with a bit of alcohol and bourbon on the back end.
Taste- not as much bourbony flavor as expected but heavy malt that complements the alcohol and hops very well.
Mouthfeel- heavy, mild carbonation and oily.
Drinkability- this is a big boy's sipper.

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Photo of Genghis22
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

No Bottle Date

An extra from the very generous stoutfiend27. Thanks!

A - Pours a nice brown, like a good glass of iced tea. A smooth creamy, off white head formed, with nice lacing all the way through.

S - Sweet sweet malts! A little toffee. There is a touch of alcohol on the nose. Hints of roses, and wood, and the faintest bit of hops.

T - Wow! There is a lot of complexity to this one. The sweetness of the roasted malts comes out at first. It is quickly balanced by the hops, and then a brief dryness from the alcohol. The underlying flavors come out in the after-taste. Lots of sweetness, and woody flavors, toffee, and oak. Yummy.

M - Medium bodied and a bit chewy. Low to moderate carbonation.

D - This is a treat of a beer, and while very tasty, only one at a time is plenty. The alcohol is subdued, but not completely hidden.

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Photo of Gish
3.93/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter.

A - Pours a very dark brown with a quickly dissipating head.

S - Smells of booze, raisins, and caramel. Inviting but still a little daunting.

T - A good dose of sweet malt that is counteracted with smokey bitterness. I'm picking up some whiskey and honey as well.

M - Well carbonated and fairly heavy. No complaints here.

D - The alcohol is submerged in all the sweetness and smokiness. I could definitely have more than one of these.

As usual, another great Founder's brew. Salute!

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Photo of becktone
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

From notes 4-7-09

Done horizontally with Alesmith Wee Heavy

Eye: Hazy dark red in color and clarity. Head retention and formation really aren't there at all, could be the glass though (this ballon has held good head on only a few brews. Head could use work, otherwise this one looks pretty average. 3.5

Nose: Big malt aroma comes to the nose. Sweet caramel is foreground, dark fruits and some alcohol are present as well. Chocolate aroma accompained by roasted and a bit burnt aromas with hints of smokiness...all behind the malt aroma. Hints of bubblegum too, but not enough to make me dislike this one.

Tongue: First some great malt character and sweetness hits the palate. This is quickly overtaken by roasted, slightly burnt/black, and a light smokey charcter. Smokiness and black/burnt character lingers in the aftertaste. This is a pretty balanced brew. Sweet malts, caramel and dark fruits are balanced by the acrid character of black malt and smokiness.

Edit: In terms of the taste of the beer itself, Alesmith is much darker and heavier, more complexity in terms of flavor and darker flavors. Much less esters/phenols. The Alesmith is crafted much better than the Founders. After drinking the Alesmith and then going back to the Founders I find quite alot of bubblegum phenols with a much weaker overall flavor profile and much less complex as well. The Founders can stand on its own, sure enough, but the Alesmith can stand up to others. That is all the difference. All in all the flavor is much more subdued in Dirty Bastard than in the Founders. The Founders pales in comparison. Compared to the Alesmith the Founders is more watery and much less flavorful.

Feel and Drinkability: Feel is medium bodied, however the carbonation almost makes it feel a bit lighter. In my opinion the carbonation levels are too high. While they don't interfere with the taste of the brew I think that they get in the way of the feel, too harsh, too prickly. This beer is an easy drinker and is quite a good Scotch Ale. This is one that I'll be buying again. The price is great on it too, $9.99 for a sixer of 8.5%abv and an easy drinking beer at that!

Edit: I feel I'm being generous with the "points" here. Compared to Alesmith its got nothing, but in comparison to others it is as rated, but is definitely second class to the Alesmith.

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Photo of maximum12
3.78/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I haven't tried many Scotch ales, so am going out of my way to collect a few & try them in the next month or so. It sounds so promising.

The Dirty Bastard is a deep red, with a smell of strong malts & some dark fruits.

Taste cuts along the same vein. A deep caramel sweetness is the overarching theme, with some more of the dark fruit kicking underneath, a niggling breath of scotch, & a gentle alcohol nibble bringing up the behind.

Nicely complex, with a full, almost creamy mouthfeel that's very satisfying. Easy to sip.

Very good brew. I mean, I'd expect no less from Founder's - welcome to Minnesota by the way! - but this is a solid brew that sets the bar nicely for the Scotch Ales that will follow it.

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Photo of BZero007
4.23/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear amber color with swirls of carbonation and tones of the beer. Head was pretty hard to form but for the type and Alc percentage I would saw it was better than usual. Smell was not strong mostly due to the fact that the head was hard to form. Flavors of this beer are great and do not over welm the brain at all.
Flavor upfront was of a sweet dark fruit flavor of malt that balances with the background of spices, caramel, and toffee. Carbonation was not allot but brew did not need the help to push the flavors out. Drinkability for me on this brew is high has the brew has low carbonation and mellow flavor that does not destroy my taste buds. Will become a staple in my fridge.

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Photo of paco1029384756
4.05/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy burgundy color with a small tan head and good ring of lacing.

Scent of caramel, oats, sugars, and tobacco. A heavy and sweet scent, but well rounded with barely noticeable alcohol.

Taste of caramel, brown sugar, tobacco, earth, spices, and tea. Good flavor, strong, complex and balanced, alcohol is masked very well.

Mouthfeel is is medium heavy bodied and smooth with light carbonation.

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Photo of Lothore
4.06/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- Pours a opaque mahogany hue with a nice, frothy, off white head which fades fairly quickly.

S- Lots of deep caramel notes, sweet toffee and brown sugar.

T- Caramel, toffee, coffee, hints of chocolate, lingering sweetness.

M- Thick with low carbonation (but this has been sitting in the cellar for about a year).

D- This was a delicious beer. I was crazy for sitting on it this long but it was great.

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Photo of mwa423
2.98/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Solid white head that dies down to lacing, notes of red in the beer

S - Awfully hoppy for the style, almost has the smell of weak dishwashing detergent (I didn't just wash the glass)

T - Lots of hops for the style, very bitter, with an aftertaste of honey-like sweetness. Not so good for the style

M - Ok, but nothing special.

Oddly enough nothing like the style, it's certainly an interesting take on the style, but not particularly one I enjoy.

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Photo of ThaBobfather
4.2/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours opaque brown with a red hue through the middle. Beige head barely rims the glass.
Smells a little of malt. Sweet smell.
Sweet malt taste through the front, with coffee and bitter hop on the end.
Muddy finish with some coffee/bitter flavor that sticks.
Very smooth.

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Photo of degerbah
3.74/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured out of a bottle from party source. Came out a deep brown with a slight ruby shade. little head. Smell is flowery with just a hint of malts.

The taste is surprisingly more of hops than anything. Way more than I'm used to in a wee heavy. If it weren't labled as a scotch ale I'd never put in this category. Divorcing it from this category it's a very pleasantly hoppy beer with a fairly heavy abv at pretty good price.

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Photo of mhatters
3.82/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served on-tap at the Exton Drafting Room

Pours a golden orange honey color, with an off-white head that hangs around

The nose is a candi-sugar with maltiness and a floral back end.

Strong flavor, floral hops emerge with a toasty malt balance

A very nice beer, good as an evening ender, I do not want a bunch, but one or two are great

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Photo of oelergud
4.17/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Chubby 12oz brown glass bottle with a twist off cap. The label shows a grinning scottish looking dirty bastard!
The beer is deep ruby topped with a somewhat shortlived tan head that leaves some lace.
Thick caramel malty scent with a dash of hops.
Spiced malty goodness and plenty of mild mannered hops make up a very tasty brew. A bit of vanilla and spice. The aftertaste is shortlived but sweet and hoppy in good harmony.
Full robust body with plenty of residual sugars and a good coating.
Good drinkability, easy to enjoy and full of flavor and character.


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Photo of eljefe21
4.15/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Deep dark brown in color. Thick with the slightest of heads. Tiny bubbled lacing throughout.

S: Malty sweetness with a hint of hop bitterness.

T: Initial malty sweetness that's held in check nicely by a slightly bitter finish.

M: Thick, chewy and smooth as it flows over the tongue. Finishes with an ever so slight dry bitterness and carbonation.

D: I could drink a lot of this if the 8.5% ABV didn't knock me on my duff. Tasty, warm and satisfying.

Served in an faceted mug.

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Photo of br3wmeister
4.01/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- This beer pours a small light tan head that dissipates quickly leaving almost no lacing. The beer is a dark amber brown in color.

S- This beer has a very malty aroma, brown sugar, caramel, and a hint of molasses make a sweet aroma. Just a hint if floral hops come through as well.

T- Similar to the aroma, lots of sweet roasted malts come through presenting as caramel and brown sugar flavors. Also some herbal spicy makes an appearance, ginger cloves, roasted nuts and a hint of wood. Some nice citrus bite finishes things off.

As it warms up Cherries and strawberries become present in the aroma and taste.

M- This is a full bodied beer that starts out smooth and sweet but then gets a little bite and some big bitterness in the end.

Overall I would say this is a very good Scotch Ale, little different from many I have had but in a good way. I like this beer.

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Photo of srrn
3.84/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This brew pours a very deep garnet red with little foam after a vigorous pour. The head quickly reduces but leaves some nice lace.

Smell is weak, some malts and a bit of grassy hops are all I can detect.

Taste is much better, a complex mixing of sweet malts, a bit of earth and then a very IPA like bitterness of piney hops.

Mouthfeel is almost perfect, creamy with a bit of oil coating to the mouth.

Closer to a Brown IPA than a Wee Heavy, but a good tasting interesting brew.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Holy cow, the lable boasts 50 IBU's! I don't think Scotland has used an accumulative 50 IBU's in all of their beers... ever. Let's see how this Scottish IPA goes.

The appearance bring a deep amber, ruby color with good clarity. A short, yet firm head forms on the beer and retains for quite some time though reducing to a trace mid-way through the session. Fair lacing. It's a decent look.

Malty sweet aromas of barley, caramelized sugars, brown sugar, and molassas. Fruity with figs, dates, grapes, and berries. The hops show a light grassy, piney note but not reflective of 50 IBU's. Earthy phenols come in as the beer warms and gives a pungent, earthy, dirty note.

Flavors of deeply caramelized malts give a complexion of Dopplebocks. Richly sweet, bready, and fruity with the figs, dates, and berries. The phenols give a light smokey note but not nearly as pungent as traditional Scottish versions. The hops begin to show their leaves with a stronger flavor of grass and pine than the nose reveals.

At first, the malty sweetness of the barley takes hold.... There's the 50 IBU's, basically all surpressed into the bitterness and dominates the beer from mid-palate on. Bitterness chases the beer into a sweetly, long linger on the tongue and throat. Odd to see such bitterness in this style.

The hop bitternes obviously chase this beer beyond what is expected of the style. But it's not all bad, it begins to take on an Arrogant Bastard demeanor, but with less aggression and balance. The beer does edge on cola-like flavors at times, but ultimately stay with the malty, bready, toasty, melanoidin-rich character albeit very bitter.

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Photo of argock
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz brown bottle into a clear pint glass. No freshness date. Single purchased at Wine Warehouse (Charlottesville, VA) for $1.80.

A: Deep leather brown with soft 1-finger oatmeal colored head with below-average retention but decent scattered lacing.

S: Slightly smoky but big-time malty with some roasted and lightly toasted sweet malt aromas. Not bready as there is not a hint of yeast, but very fulfilling. hops are minimal and herbal.

T: The maltiness is very nice, but the alcohol is a bit too forward. The malt accents are varied and include dark fruit, sweet caramel, and chocolate. Hops provide a light counterpoint of mostly nutty, woody character.

M: Feel is lively but not fizzy which leaves a creamy overall texture. Aftertaste is long and musty malt. Alcohol is pretty easy to detect.

D: Easy to drink due to the creamy feel, but the alcohol is a bit hefty. I personally like Oskar Blues Old Chub a lot more, but this is a good beer.

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