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Founders Dirty BastardFounders Dirty Bastard

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Brewed with 7 varieties of malt (varies over the years).
50 IBU

Added by Mitchster on 01-03-2003

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Photo of Mistofminn
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz stub bottle with a twist off top to pint glass.

Pours a deep mahogany with amber highlights. Produces a tan head, almost toffee colored. Head is small, and doesn't last long. Produces some interesting lacing patterns.

Smell is roasted malts and grains. There is a slight bitter chocolate here too. Mostly roasted malts though.

The taste is actually kind of like a stout. It has toasty malts and bitter chocolate, even some nuttyness and tobacco in there. Lots of caramel and sweet malts. I like this one. Not too much, not too little. The flavors work together nicely to create an overall symphony of taste.

Mouthfeel is very light and creamy. Drinkability is high.

I'm not very familiar with the style, or the brewery. But as I get more accustomed to both, I will come back and give this one another look. But as it stands, this is a solid brew.

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Photo of Buebie
4.16/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a brown 12 ounce bottle into my surly tulip. A semi-rigerous pour produces about an inch of tan head. It sits there for several minutes, before receeding to a quarter inch retention cap. Its foamy in appearance (the head). Plenty of bubble isalnds amidst the head, . Leaving behind some very attractive lace.
The color is a darker borwn with redish copper hues. Becoming a transparent dark red/ merlot like when held to light.
The appearance on this is very good.

Aroma of sweet malt, some mild chocolate grains, fermented red grapes, a touch of roastyness and toasted bread.

Taste is sweet and super malty up front. Some peat smoked roasty grain flavors, bittering from a grassy hop taste and plenty of bitter roasted grains. It reminds me a little of a vienna style malt bomb. Burnt caramel, and a touch of Earl grey herbal flavors.
Its definatly robust and represents the style extremely well. Its not hot, but slightly warm on the swallow. This would be great on a cold winter's night.

Mouthfeel is slick and full bodied. Carbonation present, but beat out by the thicker full bodied feel.

Textbook example of the style with very bold flavors here. Really enjoyed it.

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Photo of supercolter
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I am really impressed with Founders to date.
Appearance is decent- copper colored, some head and almost no lacing.
Smell is good as well- nice maltly burst with a bit of alcohol and bourbon on the back end.
Taste- not as much bourbony flavor as expected but heavy malt that complements the alcohol and hops very well.
Mouthfeel- heavy, mild carbonation and oily.
Drinkability- this is a big boy's sipper.

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Photo of Genghis22
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

No Bottle Date

An extra from the very generous stoutfiend27. Thanks!

A - Pours a nice brown, like a good glass of iced tea. A smooth creamy, off white head formed, with nice lacing all the way through.

S - Sweet sweet malts! A little toffee. There is a touch of alcohol on the nose. Hints of roses, and wood, and the faintest bit of hops.

T - Wow! There is a lot of complexity to this one. The sweetness of the roasted malts comes out at first. It is quickly balanced by the hops, and then a brief dryness from the alcohol. The underlying flavors come out in the after-taste. Lots of sweetness, and woody flavors, toffee, and oak. Yummy.

M - Medium bodied and a bit chewy. Low to moderate carbonation.

D - This is a treat of a beer, and while very tasty, only one at a time is plenty. The alcohol is subdued, but not completely hidden.

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Photo of Gish
3.93/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter.

A - Pours a very dark brown with a quickly dissipating head.

S - Smells of booze, raisins, and caramel. Inviting but still a little daunting.

T - A good dose of sweet malt that is counteracted with smokey bitterness. I'm picking up some whiskey and honey as well.

M - Well carbonated and fairly heavy. No complaints here.

D - The alcohol is submerged in all the sweetness and smokiness. I could definitely have more than one of these.

As usual, another great Founder's brew. Salute!

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Photo of becktone
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

From notes 4-7-09

Done horizontally with Alesmith Wee Heavy

Eye: Hazy dark red in color and clarity. Head retention and formation really aren't there at all, could be the glass though (this ballon has held good head on only a few brews. Head could use work, otherwise this one looks pretty average. 3.5

Nose: Big malt aroma comes to the nose. Sweet caramel is foreground, dark fruits and some alcohol are present as well. Chocolate aroma accompained by roasted and a bit burnt aromas with hints of smokiness...all behind the malt aroma. Hints of bubblegum too, but not enough to make me dislike this one.

Tongue: First some great malt character and sweetness hits the palate. This is quickly overtaken by roasted, slightly burnt/black, and a light smokey charcter. Smokiness and black/burnt character lingers in the aftertaste. This is a pretty balanced brew. Sweet malts, caramel and dark fruits are balanced by the acrid character of black malt and smokiness.

Edit: In terms of the taste of the beer itself, Alesmith is much darker and heavier, more complexity in terms of flavor and darker flavors. Much less esters/phenols. The Alesmith is crafted much better than the Founders. After drinking the Alesmith and then going back to the Founders I find quite alot of bubblegum phenols with a much weaker overall flavor profile and much less complex as well. The Founders can stand on its own, sure enough, but the Alesmith can stand up to others. That is all the difference. All in all the flavor is much more subdued in Dirty Bastard than in the Founders. The Founders pales in comparison. Compared to the Alesmith the Founders is more watery and much less flavorful.

Feel and Drinkability: Feel is medium bodied, however the carbonation almost makes it feel a bit lighter. In my opinion the carbonation levels are too high. While they don't interfere with the taste of the brew I think that they get in the way of the feel, too harsh, too prickly. This beer is an easy drinker and is quite a good Scotch Ale. This is one that I'll be buying again. The price is great on it too, $9.99 for a sixer of 8.5%abv and an easy drinking beer at that!

Edit: I feel I'm being generous with the "points" here. Compared to Alesmith its got nothing, but in comparison to others it is as rated, but is definitely second class to the Alesmith.

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Photo of maximum12
3.78/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I haven't tried many Scotch ales, so am going out of my way to collect a few & try them in the next month or so. It sounds so promising.

The Dirty Bastard is a deep red, with a smell of strong malts & some dark fruits.

Taste cuts along the same vein. A deep caramel sweetness is the overarching theme, with some more of the dark fruit kicking underneath, a niggling breath of scotch, & a gentle alcohol nibble bringing up the behind.

Nicely complex, with a full, almost creamy mouthfeel that's very satisfying. Easy to sip.

Very good brew. I mean, I'd expect no less from Founder's - welcome to Minnesota by the way! - but this is a solid brew that sets the bar nicely for the Scotch Ales that will follow it.

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Photo of BZero007
4.23/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear amber color with swirls of carbonation and tones of the beer. Head was pretty hard to form but for the type and Alc percentage I would saw it was better than usual. Smell was not strong mostly due to the fact that the head was hard to form. Flavors of this beer are great and do not over welm the brain at all.
Flavor upfront was of a sweet dark fruit flavor of malt that balances with the background of spices, caramel, and toffee. Carbonation was not allot but brew did not need the help to push the flavors out. Drinkability for me on this brew is high has the brew has low carbonation and mellow flavor that does not destroy my taste buds. Will become a staple in my fridge.

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Photo of paco1029384756
4.05/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy burgundy color with a small tan head and good ring of lacing.

Scent of caramel, oats, sugars, and tobacco. A heavy and sweet scent, but well rounded with barely noticeable alcohol.

Taste of caramel, brown sugar, tobacco, earth, spices, and tea. Good flavor, strong, complex and balanced, alcohol is masked very well.

Mouthfeel is is medium heavy bodied and smooth with light carbonation.

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Photo of Lothore
4.06/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- Pours a opaque mahogany hue with a nice, frothy, off white head which fades fairly quickly.

S- Lots of deep caramel notes, sweet toffee and brown sugar.

T- Caramel, toffee, coffee, hints of chocolate, lingering sweetness.

M- Thick with low carbonation (but this has been sitting in the cellar for about a year).

D- This was a delicious beer. I was crazy for sitting on it this long but it was great.

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Photo of mwa423
2.98/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Solid white head that dies down to lacing, notes of red in the beer

S - Awfully hoppy for the style, almost has the smell of weak dishwashing detergent (I didn't just wash the glass)

T - Lots of hops for the style, very bitter, with an aftertaste of honey-like sweetness. Not so good for the style

M - Ok, but nothing special.

Oddly enough nothing like the style, it's certainly an interesting take on the style, but not particularly one I enjoy.

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Photo of ThaBobfather
4.2/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours opaque brown with a red hue through the middle. Beige head barely rims the glass.
Smells a little of malt. Sweet smell.
Sweet malt taste through the front, with coffee and bitter hop on the end.
Muddy finish with some coffee/bitter flavor that sticks.
Very smooth.

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Photo of degerbah
3.74/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured out of a bottle from party source. Came out a deep brown with a slight ruby shade. little head. Smell is flowery with just a hint of malts.

The taste is surprisingly more of hops than anything. Way more than I'm used to in a wee heavy. If it weren't labled as a scotch ale I'd never put in this category. Divorcing it from this category it's a very pleasantly hoppy beer with a fairly heavy abv at pretty good price.

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Photo of mhatters
3.82/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served on-tap at the Exton Drafting Room

Pours a golden orange honey color, with an off-white head that hangs around

The nose is a candi-sugar with maltiness and a floral back end.

Strong flavor, floral hops emerge with a toasty malt balance

A very nice beer, good as an evening ender, I do not want a bunch, but one or two are great

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Photo of oelergud
4.17/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Chubby 12oz brown glass bottle with a twist off cap. The label shows a grinning scottish looking dirty bastard!
The beer is deep ruby topped with a somewhat shortlived tan head that leaves some lace.
Thick caramel malty scent with a dash of hops.
Spiced malty goodness and plenty of mild mannered hops make up a very tasty brew. A bit of vanilla and spice. The aftertaste is shortlived but sweet and hoppy in good harmony.
Full robust body with plenty of residual sugars and a good coating.
Good drinkability, easy to enjoy and full of flavor and character.


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Photo of eljefe21
4.15/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Deep dark brown in color. Thick with the slightest of heads. Tiny bubbled lacing throughout.

S: Malty sweetness with a hint of hop bitterness.

T: Initial malty sweetness that's held in check nicely by a slightly bitter finish.

M: Thick, chewy and smooth as it flows over the tongue. Finishes with an ever so slight dry bitterness and carbonation.

D: I could drink a lot of this if the 8.5% ABV didn't knock me on my duff. Tasty, warm and satisfying.

Served in an faceted mug.

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Photo of br3wmeister
4.01/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- This beer pours a small light tan head that dissipates quickly leaving almost no lacing. The beer is a dark amber brown in color.

S- This beer has a very malty aroma, brown sugar, caramel, and a hint of molasses make a sweet aroma. Just a hint if floral hops come through as well.

T- Similar to the aroma, lots of sweet roasted malts come through presenting as caramel and brown sugar flavors. Also some herbal spicy makes an appearance, ginger cloves, roasted nuts and a hint of wood. Some nice citrus bite finishes things off.

As it warms up Cherries and strawberries become present in the aroma and taste.

M- This is a full bodied beer that starts out smooth and sweet but then gets a little bite and some big bitterness in the end.

Overall I would say this is a very good Scotch Ale, little different from many I have had but in a good way. I like this beer.

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Photo of srrn
3.84/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This brew pours a very deep garnet red with little foam after a vigorous pour. The head quickly reduces but leaves some nice lace.

Smell is weak, some malts and a bit of grassy hops are all I can detect.

Taste is much better, a complex mixing of sweet malts, a bit of earth and then a very IPA like bitterness of piney hops.

Mouthfeel is almost perfect, creamy with a bit of oil coating to the mouth.

Closer to a Brown IPA than a Wee Heavy, but a good tasting interesting brew.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Holy cow, the lable boasts 50 IBU's! I don't think Scotland has used an accumulative 50 IBU's in all of their beers... ever. Let's see how this Scottish IPA goes.

The appearance bring a deep amber, ruby color with good clarity. A short, yet firm head forms on the beer and retains for quite some time though reducing to a trace mid-way through the session. Fair lacing. It's a decent look.

Malty sweet aromas of barley, caramelized sugars, brown sugar, and molassas. Fruity with figs, dates, grapes, and berries. The hops show a light grassy, piney note but not reflective of 50 IBU's. Earthy phenols come in as the beer warms and gives a pungent, earthy, dirty note.

Flavors of deeply caramelized malts give a complexion of Dopplebocks. Richly sweet, bready, and fruity with the figs, dates, and berries. The phenols give a light smokey note but not nearly as pungent as traditional Scottish versions. The hops begin to show their leaves with a stronger flavor of grass and pine than the nose reveals.

At first, the malty sweetness of the barley takes hold.... There's the 50 IBU's, basically all surpressed into the bitterness and dominates the beer from mid-palate on. Bitterness chases the beer into a sweetly, long linger on the tongue and throat. Odd to see such bitterness in this style.

The hop bitternes obviously chase this beer beyond what is expected of the style. But it's not all bad, it begins to take on an Arrogant Bastard demeanor, but with less aggression and balance. The beer does edge on cola-like flavors at times, but ultimately stay with the malty, bready, toasty, melanoidin-rich character albeit very bitter.

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Photo of argock
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz brown bottle into a clear pint glass. No freshness date. Single purchased at Wine Warehouse (Charlottesville, VA) for $1.80.

A: Deep leather brown with soft 1-finger oatmeal colored head with below-average retention but decent scattered lacing.

S: Slightly smoky but big-time malty with some roasted and lightly toasted sweet malt aromas. Not bready as there is not a hint of yeast, but very fulfilling. hops are minimal and herbal.

T: The maltiness is very nice, but the alcohol is a bit too forward. The malt accents are varied and include dark fruit, sweet caramel, and chocolate. Hops provide a light counterpoint of mostly nutty, woody character.

M: Feel is lively but not fizzy which leaves a creamy overall texture. Aftertaste is long and musty malt. Alcohol is pretty easy to detect.

D: Easy to drink due to the creamy feel, but the alcohol is a bit hefty. I personally like Oskar Blues Old Chub a lot more, but this is a good beer.

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Photo of BarrelO
3.46/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a goblet.

A: Garnet with a thin head that quickly fades.

S: Yikes. Overwhelming solventy alcohol. Like one of DFH's stronger offerings. Underlying hints of cherries and dark fruits.

T: Again, alcohol heat initially dominates. Fortunately, it eventually settles down and lets the cherries and dark fruits from the nose to come forth. Honestly, it's more like a BSDA than a scotch ale.

M: Thick body with little carbonation.

D: Not quite sure what to make of this one. It was way too harsh for me initially, but it eventually kind of grew on me. I don't think I'd seek this one out, though.

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Photo of weasbri
4.23/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Good looking beer, nice chestnut color, with a decent head.
Definitely smelling that this beer will have a kick to it, the alcohol is there in the nose, along with rich malt.

First impression when it hits my tongue: Dirty, just like the name. Then the flavors start to sort themselves out: good bit of fruitiness, surprisingly. Good bit of malt plays in the mouth as well. Here now the bitterness of the hops comes through to finish, with, yes, even a spot of chocolate back there.

Very interesting beer. Looking forward to trying more Founders now that they are available in Virginia.

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Photo of rugerj
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer pours a deep copper color with some ruby highlights. A nice 1 finger head is present which fades quickly, decent lacing left in glass. Smell is of toasted malt and dark fruit with some hints of cocoa. Taste is of dark toasted malt with a slight smoke flavor perhaps due to some peated malt. Slight dark fruit and cocoa that warms as beer is swallowed, alcohol is well hidden. Mouth feel is good, not too much carbonation.

Nice scotch style ale, nothing fancy but very, very solid for an American offering. Nice complexity of flavors will have me enjoying more of these.

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Photo of BeerSox
3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz twist-off bottle into nonic.

It's been a while since I had a Scotch Ale. It has also been a while since while since I had one that was from a twist-off bottle. I believe it has also been a while since I had a name with the word "Bastard" in the name.

Deep mahogany hue with a thin tan cap that settles to nothing.

Lots of caramel aromas with a bit of highly toasted grain. The alcohol shows up to add a little bit of sweet spiciness.

Smooth caramel flavors along with a little bit of alcohol that shows up, adding a warming feeling. A touch of molasses is in the background. Full bodied.

A solid Scotch Ale, but a little drier than I've had in the past. Worth a try.

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Photo of storksonm
4.35/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pint Glass

Poured a nice thick head and gradually declined. Smells quite strong as far as alchohol content. Bit of a robust barley in it. Tastes like butterscotch flavors. But wow is this beer a kick. It's a nice strong scotch ale thats light on the stomach but a smack in the face. Yeah thats right you're drunk. Very nice scotch I find it to be right up there with warped speed scotch ale.

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Founders Dirty Bastard from Founders Brewing Company
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