Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV) | Rinkuškiai

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Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)
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Brewed by:
Rinkuškiai
Lithuania
rinkuskiai.lt

Style: Euro Strong Lager

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by brewdlyhooked13 on 06-12-2010

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Photo of NeroFiddled
3.36/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Rinkuškiai "After Before Triple Bock"
16.9 fl. oz brown glass bottle, coded "L.08523"
$2.99 @ Roger Wilco, Pennsauken, NJ

Notes via stream of consciousness: Having tried a second strong alcohol brew from Rinkuškiai I thought I'd give their "After Before" a chance. And I should point out that I don't have the name wrong. On the neck label it clearly reads "AFTER-BEFORE", as does the back label where it reads "BEER AFTER-BEFORE". It also lists it at 12% ALC/VOL. Perhaps they've changed their packaging and name because I can see from the photo of the lower gravity "After Before" that it's clearly labeled that way. So, moving forward, it's poured a slightly hazy golden body beneath a finger-thick head of off-white that almost immediately dropped to just a razor thin surface covering and standard collar. The aroma is malty sweet and fruity. It's clean, and no alcohol stands out. The flavor follows suit and it's very sweet. It's malty, and grainy, but not so much so that I'm not curious as to whether some adjunct has been used. It's also fruity with some moderately juicy apple, and that's pleasant. It blends with the malt nicely. In the finish there are some hops, very mild, that gently linger... I don't know if they're actually floral or if that's the alcohol talking, but they're also mildly herbal. In the end, however, it's unbalanced and the sweet malt lingers in the finish with a wash of alcohol - which at this point isn't so unwelcome as it helps to dry it! And the alcohol isn't hot, which is important to note, they didn't just churn this stuff out at a high temperature, but neither was it perfectly controlled. And let's keep in mind, there's a lot of malt here, and a lot of alcohol follows that. I can't imagine what the original gravity was. I'd have to guess it was about 24˚Plato. That's about all you can wring out of malt in the mash tun. Or was it lower to begin with and they bumped it up with sugar. No matter, it is what it is. But what is it? What have they labeled it as? Ahh, yes, "triple bock". I guess that fits. And the one I had earlier, the "Hell On High", that was a "quad bock". It's full-medium in body and mildly crisp. There's not a lot of carbonation to it, which I think hurts it. I understand you can only add so much more in such a full bodied beer but at least a little bit more would have given it some bite to help balance it. What did I miss? ... I covered its appearance, its aroma, its flavor, and its feel leaving only my general opinion remaining. Well, not unlike the "Hell On High" it's a very malty beer, and a strong one, so it should satisfy those customers. It's probably also packing a lot of calories so those who are looking to beef-up might want to check this out. Beyond that it's got some flaws but it's far from the worst beer I've had from the Baltic region, and in fact it's pretty well done in comparison for such a strong ale. That doesn't make it OK though, but on a world wide-level it's not so bad. At least it doesn't taste like they added anti-freeze to it! I can't really imagine buying this again though unless it was as a joke gift or hobo beer, and to be honest, I don't think even hobos would really go for it - and that put's it on the wine level of "Night Train"... they'll take it for the alcohol but they don't really like it. It is better than a lot of malt liquors that have less alcohol though. Tough call. On a world stage it's a little bit better than average based on its maltiness and its alcohol, but not by much.

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Photo of BrewMaven
2.56/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Two 16.9oz for $5 at my local market...What the heck.
Poured a clear deep gold with vibrant yet short lived carbonation..A wispy hint of a head that left post haste.

Aroma and taste are in lock step with each other so I'm combining them...Candy caramel sweetness dominates both..Nuf said. Medium mouthfeel. Warning of the beer has little or no ill effects on flavor.

12% is well hidden in the taste but not in the effect of this brew.
If nothing else, it's a pleasant way to catch a serious buzz on the cheap.

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Photo of kojevergas
1.71/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 1.75

$2.99 USD for a 12% Lithuanian lager? Sign me up...

Bottle comes with a cardboard hangtag to remind you you bought this just for its ludicrous ABV and the fact that you're a cheap bastard. 1 pint .9 fl oz format. Branded pry-off crown cap. Great label art with a built-in drunkenness joke...it's more clever than it seems at first glance.

12% ABV. "Premium lager." "European beer." "Naturally fermented" (whatever that implies...)

Served cold into a nonic.

APPEARANCE: I'll give it this - I expected horrid retention in a 12% ABV import budget lager, but it defies expectations, lasting a good 5-6 minutes. Not too shabby. Head is white in colour, with appealing softness and thickness to its robust consistency. No lacing adheres to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body is a clear obviously filtered vibrant pale copper. No yeast/lees are visible within.

It's a nice appearance for a generic European lager, no doubt. Not unique or special, but I find no obvious flaws and its head retention is impressive.

AROMA: Heavy on the malt syrup. Loads of malty sweetness is present - pale malt, crystal malt, caramalt. Ester-free lager yeast. Hard water. No graininess or hoppiness. Boy, does that seem sweet and syrupy. Ugh...

TASTE & TEXTURE: Cloyingly sweet particularly on the finish, with the heavy syrupy sludgy mouthfeel to match, dragging out its duration of flavour when all their target demographic wants is more blandness and a briefer taste so they (i.e. we) can just get plain ole fashioned knackered. Loads of off-putting saccharine malt extract/syrup, heavy layers of caramalt & crystal malt, generic pale malt sweetness...I'd prefer rice adjunct so at least it'd be lighter in body. Hell, I'd take watery over this.

I do have to give credit where it's due - I anticipated a much boozier brew. Not that this isn't hot (it most certainly is), but I'd figure it for 9-10% ABV trying it blind. Still, its sickly heavy viscous mouthfeel is repugnant and there's nothing here flavourwise for the discerning drinker...no graininess, no hop flavour (not even generic grassy or floral notes), no balancing bitterness.

Medicinal in the sense that it's a hell of a cure for sobriety.

Overcarbonated. Unrefreshing (obviously). Smooth. Wet. Difficult to approach or enjoy.

Shallow and simple, lacking any depth or nuance whatsoever.

OVERALL: I don't recall ever seeing this on my 3 odd trips to Vilnius, and its label really overplays the "European"/"Import" angle, implying the ostensible cachet of foreign origin is its main selling point when we all know it's really just a dressed up high gravity lager destined for the stomachs of students and(/or) drunks. I've had some rough budget Euro brews in my time and this is far from the worst of them, but finishing the bottle will prove a chore and, to be frank, it's deplorable rotgut you just shouldn't bloody buy outright.

Would pair well with an Aleve and some deeply seated personal regret.

High F (1.71) / AVOID

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Photo of brittanylicious
2.75/5  rDev +5%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Photo of eagle109
2.42/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Photo of cuvtcuv
2.52/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Photo of dcotom
1.82/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.75

This is like a sweet, hot, boozy, flat grain soda whose only saving grace seems to be its exceptionally high ABV (a fact prominently advertised on a hang-tag on the bottle neck). I had to dump this after only a few sips. You can probably get the same experience (and save a little money) by dropping a shot of vodka into a Bud Light.

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Photo of Gavage
2.07/5  rDev -21%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2

Appearance: pour a clear orange color with no carbonation bubbles.

Smell: super sweetness rises from the glass.

Taste: grainy malt, and what seems like a ton of honey and a decent alcohol level. Bitterness is mild.

Mouthfeel: heavy in body. Smooth to start, syrupy and dry at the finish.

Overall: a super sweet beer that is hard to finish, and seems to be a pure headache inducer.

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Photo of Taphouse_Traveler
2.85/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Photo of neenerzig
3.32/5  rDev +26.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Picked up a single 16.9 oz bottle of this earlier tonight. Poured into one of my pokal glasses, this beer pours a very clear, medium golden color with lots of streams of little bubbles continuously and fairly rapidly rising to the beer's surface. Has a white head that's about 2/3 of an inch thick when initially poured that settles to a nice film layer of foam on the beer's surface along with a medium sized ring lining the inside of the glass. A little bit of lacing is present. Aromas of fruity esters, including some banana, and biscuity caramel malt sweetness are all present. The taste is pretty much the same, with some biscuity caramel malt sweetness that gives way to some banana and figs. Not discernible hop presence as far as my palate is concerned. Has a hint of a peppery spice note too. Has a crisp, yet also smooth, medium bodied mouthfeel with moderate carbonation. Easy to drink in a good way. Gets better after the beer sits and warms a bit. Not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Eric

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Photo of 0_0
2.15/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

L - Orangery and syrupy pour, should have learned at this point but I pressed on
S- The smell is overpowered by grain so you cant expect what comes next
T + F - sweet, Malt, alcohol and grain in a thick liquid poured its self into my mouth covering it with he taste of regret.
O - Honestly I hate Malt flavors with a burning passion. Love Rinkuskiai's "Hell on High" but this beer is definitely not my cup of tea.

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Photo of EdwardAbbey
2.18/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2

I finally tried this, for science (I guess?), after seeing it multiple times at Bottleworks here in Seattle (they always seemed to have the same amount, so I felt bad for it, and obligated to give one bottle, at least, a home). Despite my personal fondness for Lithuania, having once worked with many fine people from that beautiful country, this beer represents the place and its heritage poorly.

Still, it's maybe worth trying...once...if you lose a bet, say, or are filled with some ineffable pity, for something, or someone.

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Photo of tone77
3.05/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured from a brown 16.9 oz. bottle. Has a dark golden color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of grains, alcohol, slightly sweet. Taste is alcohol, grains, malts, more alcohol, sugar. Feels medium/light bodied in the mouth and overall is something I would not buy again. That being said, it is better than most American malt liquors that have a similar abv.

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Photo of metter98
2.47/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: The beer is crystal clear amber yellow in color and has a slight amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin white collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of fruity esters are present in the nose along with hints of sweet malts and fusel alcohol.
T: The taste follows the smell, except that the flavors of fusel alcohol are a little stronger.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied and somewhat clean on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation. Slight hints of warming are noticeable in the finish. The mouthfeel is slightly cloying.
O: While this beer masks a good portion of its alcohol—unlike what you might expect from a malt liquor—the sweetness can get a little cloying.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of barczar
3.36/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

2013 vintage. Aroma is very sweet, caramelly, toasted, and there are actually melanoidin notes. Actually more depth than I expected. There's a bit if fruity fusel alcohol.

Flavor is fairly fruit laden, sharp grape upfront, with notes of dates and figs at the finish. The alcohol burn prevents the sweetness from being cloying.

Didn't hold out much hope for this one, so it's much better than expected.

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Photo of stevoj
2.54/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Sweet and pungent, but no alcohol burn surprisingly. Heavy grain presence in aroma and taste. Only one reason to drink this ... to get drunk. Mission accomplished! Sweet and grainy....but relatively smooth

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Photo of hozersr
2.09/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Photo of rab53
2.7/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Photo of MrVictim
2.16/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Unpleasant smell and aftertaste. Plenty of kick at 12% abv, but I'd prefer to drink 2 decent 6% Belgians rather than this. Overall nasty. Stay away.

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Photo of johlac66
3/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of justinp444
2.33/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a semi clear orange with a thin white head. Smell of cheap lager, lots of fruity esters, very strong bready malt, banana, and some tropical fruity hop character. Taste is overly sweet caramel, alcohol, some orange, and apple. Too much alcohol on the backend, light to moderate mouth feel, and a crisp taste.

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Photo of paulish
3.5/5  rDev +33.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Good beer with high level ABV

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Photo of BuckeyeScott
3.03/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Photo of heysuz
2.75/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Alpha309
3.5/5  rDev +33.6%

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