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Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV) | Rinkuškiai

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Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Rinkuškiai
Lithuania
rinkuskiai.lt

Style: Euro Strong Lager

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by brewdlyhooked13 on 06-12-2010

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#44,332
Reviews:
56
Ratings:
110
pDev:
30.53%
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Reviews by Hopstronaut:
Photo of Hopstronaut
1/5  rDev -61.8%
look: 1 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Avoid this one at all costs. It had a $2.99 tag around the 500ml bottle, I should have known. The taste was much too sweet, like fake candy, way too boozy and the aftertaste was like vomit. Almost zero carbonation and a very strange mirky orange color. I drink all kinds of beer but this went down the drain. Too bad.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of augustgarage
2.24/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 2.25

I've had a decent take on a hefeweizen from Lithuania before, so at less than $3, I'll pay for the jokey label if nothing else. Poured from a 500mL bottle into my Ayinger Doppelbock glass.

Brilliantly clear goldenrod body with an active ephemeral head. Poor retention, no legs, and a sticky even layer of tears.

Low aromatics suggest pale malt, adjunct, and a hint of toast. No melanoidins; faint grape-like note, some alcohol.

I was expecting this to taste like a Euro Strong Lager at this point, but there is a surprising level of maltiness along with a touch of caramel. Vague grassy hops perhaps, but no real bitterness. Finishes on the sweet side with a rapidly growing heat from the ABV. Maybe some fusels in the aftertaste, but the overall flavor profile is fleeting.

Insipid mouthfeel - sticky, heavy, and a bit flat despite a steady stream of bubbles.

While not quite an abject failure, one wonders if the producers of this beer have ever actually had anything approaching a doppelbock before. While I can find one or two things to enjoy about the flavor, and I'm able to finish the bottle (only had one or two "drainpours" in my life), this is at best a novelty beer, and a worst a headache in a bottle. Avoid.

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Photo of tectactoe
1.12/5  rDev -57.3%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Pours a deep amber color, mild clarity. Super thick looking, low carbonation, and minimal head, even after an abrasive pour. The smell... ugh, the smell. The alcohol in this beer is WAY too overpowering - smells nearly like rubbing alcohol. Other hints in the nose: musk, mold, cheese, onions, corn, wheat, dirty grains, wet cardboard. The taste isn't too far behind - hot from the alcohol with notes of musty old basement, dirty earth, cheap corn grains, and funky onion. Taste like absolute puke, and I'm trying to be nice here. Sweetness is abundant from the malt, as well, so much so that it's cloying and nasty. Hops? Where are they? It doesn't matter, nothing could save this beer. Thick, syrupy, sticky, and heavier than lead on the mouth.

Good God, this beer is downright awful. I tried, I really did. I muscled down about half the glass and had to pour the rest down the drain. It got far worse as it warmed up. A colossal train wreck of alcohol, adjunct grains, malt, and whatever the hell else is in this beer. Head for the hills, this is the worse beer I've had.

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Photo of tbryan5
3.5/5  rDev +33.6%

Photo of lordofthewiens
2.18/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

I wish I had remembered that I had tried Lobster Lover's beer from this brewery, and really didn't like either version that I tried. I thought this bock was worth a try, but I was sadly mistaken.
In a pint glass this beer was a gold color with just a rim of white head.
Strong aroma of alcohol, not pleasant, with a bit of sweet malt.
Mostly boozy taste, a tiny bit of caramel malt.
The mouthfeel was very sharp. Can't believe this is a bock. It bears no resemblence to a bock.

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Photo of Hugh37
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%

Photo of ChaseBacon
3/5  rDev +14.5%

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.53/5  rDev +34.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a dimple mug)

A- This beer has a slightly hazy slightly dense deep orange body with a thin bubbly head that breaks up soon and is supported by a strong carbonation of big bubbles.

S- The soft sweet malt aroma as a melanoidin quality and a touch of honey but is otherwise pretty clean.

T- The slight taste of butter blends with pot caramel and a light melanoidin note to the dry finish. There is some honey notes and a caramel banana ester note that comes through as the beer warms. As it warms the malt takes on a pale malt jolly rancher flavor.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel has an alcohol heat that is gentle in the beginning but grows to a full burn in the back of the throat.

O- The clean lagered beer has some nice malt notes with some ester character but this beer is a bit thin for the big alcohol that soon dominates.

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Photo of acurtis
2.25/5  rDev -14.1%

Photo of BrewMaven
2.56/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Two 16.9oz for $5 at my local market...What the heck.
Poured a clear deep gold with vibrant yet short lived carbonation..A wispy hint of a head that left post haste.

Aroma and taste are in lock step with each other so I'm combining them...Candy caramel sweetness dominates both..Nuf said. Medium mouthfeel. Warning of the beer has little or no ill effects on flavor.

12% is well hidden in the taste but not in the effect of this brew.
If nothing else, it's a pleasant way to catch a serious buzz on the cheap.

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Photo of DruC4
3/5  rDev +14.5%

Photo of BamfBacon
3.5/5  rDev +33.6%

Photo of BuckeyeScott
3.03/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Photo of pmcadamis
1.53/5  rDev -41.6%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

A - Dark amber with absolutely no head.

S - This is so heavy on the alcohol that it actually sort of smells like vodka. Grainy, musty, and nasty.

T - Better than the nose. Yeasty, boozy, bready.

M - Heavy and sickly sweet. Not good.

This is really not a good beer. Ugh.

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Photo of TheSupremeAJ
3.57/5  rDev +36.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Very cool bottle... the whole reason I bought it. Very thin head which immediately dissipated. Clear with bubbles rising. Smell is of rich full caramel malt and well straw actually. The taste is of fruity esters in a rich caramel brew... alcohol flavor is not prevalent despite 12%ABV. Mouthfeel is cheap and expected @ 2.75 per 16.9oz bottle. Overall definitely worth the experience and a hella cool bottle.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
3.36/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Rinkuškiai "After Before Triple Bock"
16.9 fl. oz brown glass bottle, coded "L.08523"
$2.99 @ Roger Wilco, Pennsauken, NJ

Notes via stream of consciousness: Having tried a second strong alcohol brew from Rinkuškiai I thought I'd give their "After Before" a chance. And I should point out that I don't have the name wrong. On the neck label it clearly reads "AFTER-BEFORE", as does the back label where it reads "BEER AFTER-BEFORE". It also lists it at 12% ALC/VOL. Perhaps they've changed their packaging and name because I can see from the photo of the lower gravity "After Before" that it's clearly labeled that way. So, moving forward, it's poured a slightly hazy golden body beneath a finger-thick head of off-white that almost immediately dropped to just a razor thin surface covering and standard collar. The aroma is malty sweet and fruity. It's clean, and no alcohol stands out. The flavor follows suit and it's very sweet. It's malty, and grainy, but not so much so that I'm not curious as to whether some adjunct has been used. It's also fruity with some moderately juicy apple, and that's pleasant. It blends with the malt nicely. In the finish there are some hops, very mild, that gently linger... I don't know if they're actually floral or if that's the alcohol talking, but they're also mildly herbal. In the end, however, it's unbalanced and the sweet malt lingers in the finish with a wash of alcohol - which at this point isn't so unwelcome as it helps to dry it! And the alcohol isn't hot, which is important to note, they didn't just churn this stuff out at a high temperature, but neither was it perfectly controlled. And let's keep in mind, there's a lot of malt here, and a lot of alcohol follows that. I can't imagine what the original gravity was. I'd have to guess it was about 24˚Plato. That's about all you can wring out of malt in the mash tun. Or was it lower to begin with and they bumped it up with sugar. No matter, it is what it is. But what is it? What have they labeled it as? Ahh, yes, "triple bock". I guess that fits. And the one I had earlier, the "Hell On High", that was a "quad bock". It's full-medium in body and mildly crisp. There's not a lot of carbonation to it, which I think hurts it. I understand you can only add so much more in such a full bodied beer but at least a little bit more would have given it some bite to help balance it. What did I miss? ... I covered its appearance, its aroma, its flavor, and its feel leaving only my general opinion remaining. Well, not unlike the "Hell On High" it's a very malty beer, and a strong one, so it should satisfy those customers. It's probably also packing a lot of calories so those who are looking to beef-up might want to check this out. Beyond that it's got some flaws but it's far from the worst beer I've had from the Baltic region, and in fact it's pretty well done in comparison for such a strong ale. That doesn't make it OK though, but on a world wide-level it's not so bad. At least it doesn't taste like they added anti-freeze to it! I can't really imagine buying this again though unless it was as a joke gift or hobo beer, and to be honest, I don't think even hobos would really go for it - and that put's it on the wine level of "Night Train"... they'll take it for the alcohol but they don't really like it. It is better than a lot of malt liquors that have less alcohol though. Tough call. On a world stage it's a little bit better than average based on its maltiness and its alcohol, but not by much.

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Photo of dylnthmsn
2/5  rDev -23.7%

Photo of tone77
3.05/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured from a brown 16.9 oz. bottle. Has a dark golden color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of grains, alcohol, slightly sweet. Taste is alcohol, grains, malts, more alcohol, sugar. Feels medium/light bodied in the mouth and overall is something I would not buy again. That being said, it is better than most American malt liquors that have a similar abv.

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Photo of smellandsip37
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%

Photo of bluejacket74
2.33/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

500 ml bottle. Served in a mug, the beer pours a mostly clear dark gold/amber color with a half inch off-white head. Head retention is decent, and there isn't much lacing at all. The brew smells like bready/grainy malt, sugar and booze. Unfortunately the taste is similar to the aroma. I think it tastes mostly like sugary booze, with some grainy malt noticeable too. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's syrupy and coating with low/moderate carbonation. This certainly wasn't one of the better brews I've had lately. But I also finished the bottle without a problem so it wasn't exactly awful either. $2.49 a bottle.

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Photo of LJWalker
3/5  rDev +14.5%

Photo of DavidHume
3/5  rDev +14.5%

Photo of EgadBananas
2.02/5  rDev -22.9%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Pours a golden, dark orange color. Definitely a bit too bright. I must have agitated the bottle a bit on the way, cloudy yeast poured out near the end. Started with a cream colored couple fingers of head, but dissipates to nothing pretty quick. Aroma is malty, fruity sweet. There's some fusel alcohol that burns the nostrils. Same for the taste: some malty, fruitiness and alcohol. There's nothing complex about it. It's straight forward sweetness and alcohol. It's creamy, and mostly full bodied, no real carbonation to speak of though.

It's not the worst thing... but it's not to style even despite the alcohol, and it's just not worth drinking.

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Photo of imbibehour
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

With a tag highlighting the 12% abv around the bottle, you know what the marketing angle is for this beer (too bad it wasn't 12% off in price). Poured into a tall pilsner glass.

Off the pour manages a small yellow caramel like head with a hint of orange, doesn't stick around or leave a collar, no lacing at all either. The body color is strange. It's a very obvious orange to some amber, cloudy, even some flakes in the glass also. This looks strange.

Nose is not too bad, but smells mostly like artificial candy and a small dose of cinnamon. Where is the malt, or even something like chocolate? Not even very sweet smelling, just some noticeable alcohol, odd.

Taste is a major letdown but what else with this sense of heat and artificial candy nose coming? Boozy hot, feels seltzer like, over fermented orange juice, not cinnamon candy not in a fun way, more like cough syrup. Fusel alcohol finish, faint malt just barely making a presence but can't make a dent.

Overall, this is really terrible, when you can have standard like Ayinger Celeberator or Weihenstephan Korbinian why would you even want this? Troegenattor please!

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Photo of foxyaardvark27
1/5  rDev -61.8%

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