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Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV) | Rinkuškiai

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110 Ratings
Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Rinkuškiai
Lithuania
rinkuskiai.lt

Style: Euro Strong Lager

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by brewdlyhooked13 on 06-12-2010

BEER STATS
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#44,304
Reviews:
56
Ratings:
110
pDev:
30.53%
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Photo of foxyaardvark27
1/5  rDev -61.8%

Photo of dpage27
1/5  rDev -61.8%

Photo of Beerdrinker21190
1/5  rDev -61.8%

Photo of Hopstronaut
1/5  rDev -61.8%
look: 1 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Avoid this one at all costs. It had a $2.99 tag around the 500ml bottle, I should have known. The taste was much too sweet, like fake candy, way too boozy and the aftertaste was like vomit. Almost zero carbonation and a very strange mirky orange color. I drink all kinds of beer but this went down the drain. Too bad.

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Photo of tectactoe
1.12/5  rDev -57.3%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Pours a deep amber color, mild clarity. Super thick looking, low carbonation, and minimal head, even after an abrasive pour. The smell... ugh, the smell. The alcohol in this beer is WAY too overpowering - smells nearly like rubbing alcohol. Other hints in the nose: musk, mold, cheese, onions, corn, wheat, dirty grains, wet cardboard. The taste isn't too far behind - hot from the alcohol with notes of musty old basement, dirty earth, cheap corn grains, and funky onion. Taste like absolute puke, and I'm trying to be nice here. Sweetness is abundant from the malt, as well, so much so that it's cloying and nasty. Hops? Where are they? It doesn't matter, nothing could save this beer. Thick, syrupy, sticky, and heavier than lead on the mouth.

Good God, this beer is downright awful. I tried, I really did. I muscled down about half the glass and had to pour the rest down the drain. It got far worse as it warmed up. A colossal train wreck of alcohol, adjunct grains, malt, and whatever the hell else is in this beer. Head for the hills, this is the worse beer I've had.

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Photo of MaxOhle
1.25/5  rDev -52.3%

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1.25/5  rDev -52.3%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
1.47/5  rDev -43.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

500ml bottle - $2.99 at Hop City in Atlanta, Georgia.

Appearance: Crystalline, light golden-amber body with a small, sudsy white head.

Smell: Shockingly corrosive ethanol and a secondary whiff of something artificial, something ominous wafting up from this sad, shameful brew. It's a real feat to pick up any accents of malts or dark fruits.

Taste: Sugar and palate cutting alcohol annihilating any complexities, any subtler flavors, or really any hope for anything beyond a truly dreadful beer.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light body. Medium carbonation.

Overall: Reprehensible before, during, and after.

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Photo of MorningDove
1.49/5  rDev -43.1%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

bought it because the bottle was interesting... we all make mistakes

Rarely do I pour a beer down the drain.... but this isn't a beer

Malt Liqueur?

Not too hard to get a high alcohol content when your crafting your beer out of sugar.

i'll say that at least the carbonation wasn't bad, but then there is the smell and taste.... I couldn't stomach it, but I suppose I like beer too much to handle it

Don't buy this, buy Steel Reserve, or some other malt liqueur that does a better job than this impostor

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Photo of wagner617
1.5/5  rDev -42.7%

Photo of GaryFields
1.5/5  rDev -42.7%

Photo of matjack85
1.51/5  rDev -42.4%
look: 1.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

I found these single, brown, 500ml bottles on the shelf at Sal's Liquors in Addison, IL for $2.51 each. The label is kind of cool. When held with the "before" side up you see a caricature of an ugly woman. Turn the bottle upside down to the "after" side and she transforms into a beautiful girl. No freshness date or any other information about the beer on the bottle.

The beer poured a clear brownish/orange color, but it only made a 1/4-finger's worth of white head that dissipated immediately and left no lacing whatsoever.

The beer smells really sweet with lots of caramel, candy-like sugars, and dark fruits. There is also a very pronounced alcoholic smell, which would be expected in a 12.0% abv beer.

Ugh, this beer is dreadful! Sweetened grain alcohol in a bottle. The caramel and dark fruits are in there but they can't overcome the power of the alcohol. No attempt to mask or blend the alcohol at all. It's terrible.

Thin for a dopplebock despite the sweetness. The low to moderate carbonation level is much too low for me.

I don't like to throw beer out, but this was complete drainpour.

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Photo of pmcadamis
1.53/5  rDev -41.6%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

A - Dark amber with absolutely no head.

S - This is so heavy on the alcohol that it actually sort of smells like vodka. Grainy, musty, and nasty.

T - Better than the nose. Yeasty, boozy, bready.

M - Heavy and sickly sweet. Not good.

This is really not a good beer. Ugh.

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Photo of thekevlarkid
1.55/5  rDev -40.8%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

I purchased this bottle lured in by the cool optical illusion label and the promise of 12% ALC. Unfortunately, these turned out to be the only highlights of the experience. Out of the bottle the beer was a dark golden color with a very short lived head of tan foam. Minimal lacing. The aroma was of booze, ethanol and some skunked malt. The flavors were about the same, dominated by the booze and ethanol with hints of something fishy and an acidic bite. Pure unadulterated garbage. The mouthfeel was slick, the body medium and the carbonation average. Not worth it and sadly one of the worst beers I’ve had in a while.

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Photo of Lauthaha
1.67/5  rDev -36.3%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Poured from a half-liter bottle into a beer stein.

Appearance: Pours a lot like soda, except without the head. Absolutely no backbone to this beer. Clear, orange/lemon color with very light carbonation. The lack of head disturbs me.

Smell: Buttery alcohol aroma. Some clove action, perhaps, prunes, toffee (or caramel), very malty. It grows on you, just a touch.

Taste/Mouthfeel: An almost undetectable amount of carbonation coupled with the sweet, sickly taste of what may or may not have been sugar at one point make this one a real challenge. Banana, sage. Burnt sage. Goes down thinly, yet oily in its finish.

Drinkability: None. If I were not a man on a quest, it would easily be a drainpour.

The main selling point of this brew was the ABV (displayed in huge lettering on a tag on the neck of the bottle). That, and an increasing interest in bocks. I wasn't pleased, but I have had worse, so I can't fail Before-After.

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Photo of Arithmeticus
1.68/5  rDev -35.9%
look: 1 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Poured chilled at the white house in ale glass

A: no head; no lacing; carb action only ok
S: honey honeysuckle; very boozy; vaporous
T: very sweet; malt liquor at its worst; wretchedly sweet and boozy; unpalatable; no hops?
M: dead

Look, if one wishes to get plastered, do it with vodka, not swill like this.

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Photo of kojevergas
1.71/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 1.75

$2.99 USD for a 12% Lithuanian lager? Sign me up...

Bottle comes with a cardboard hangtag to remind you you bought this just for its ludicrous ABV and the fact that you're a cheap bastard. 1 pint .9 fl oz format. Branded pry-off crown cap. Great label art with a built-in drunkenness joke...it's more clever than it seems at first glance.

12% ABV. "Premium lager." "European beer." "Naturally fermented" (whatever that implies...)

Served cold into a nonic.

APPEARANCE: I'll give it this - I expected horrid retention in a 12% ABV import budget lager, but it defies expectations, lasting a good 5-6 minutes. Not too shabby. Head is white in colour, with appealing softness and thickness to its robust consistency. No lacing adheres to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body is a clear obviously filtered vibrant pale copper. No yeast/lees are visible within.

It's a nice appearance for a generic European lager, no doubt. Not unique or special, but I find no obvious flaws and its head retention is impressive.

AROMA: Heavy on the malt syrup. Loads of malty sweetness is present - pale malt, crystal malt, caramalt. Ester-free lager yeast. Hard water. No graininess or hoppiness. Boy, does that seem sweet and syrupy. Ugh...

TASTE & TEXTURE: Cloyingly sweet particularly on the finish, with the heavy syrupy sludgy mouthfeel to match, dragging out its duration of flavour when all their target demographic wants is more blandness and a briefer taste so they (i.e. we) can just get plain ole fashioned knackered. Loads of off-putting saccharine malt extract/syrup, heavy layers of caramalt & crystal malt, generic pale malt sweetness...I'd prefer rice adjunct so at least it'd be lighter in body. Hell, I'd take watery over this.

I do have to give credit where it's due - I anticipated a much boozier brew. Not that this isn't hot (it most certainly is), but I'd figure it for 9-10% ABV trying it blind. Still, its sickly heavy viscous mouthfeel is repugnant and there's nothing here flavourwise for the discerning drinker...no graininess, no hop flavour (not even generic grassy or floral notes), no balancing bitterness.

Medicinal in the sense that it's a hell of a cure for sobriety.

Overcarbonated. Unrefreshing (obviously). Smooth. Wet. Difficult to approach or enjoy.

Shallow and simple, lacking any depth or nuance whatsoever.

OVERALL: I don't recall ever seeing this on my 3 odd trips to Vilnius, and its label really overplays the "European"/"Import" angle, implying the ostensible cachet of foreign origin is its main selling point when we all know it's really just a dressed up high gravity lager destined for the stomachs of students and(/or) drunks. I've had some rough budget Euro brews in my time and this is far from the worst of them, but finishing the bottle will prove a chore and, to be frank, it's deplorable rotgut you just shouldn't bloody buy outright.

Would pair well with an Aleve and some deeply seated personal regret.

High F (1.71) / AVOID

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Photo of watchnerd
1.71/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Bought a bottle at a local liquor store. Poured into a pint glass.

Appearance is dark amber, no appreciable head or lacing. Pretty average.

Smell is lacking in any yeastiness, hoppiness, the strongest notes being a fruity overtone and alcohol.

Taste -- blech. This reminds me of the cheap, high alcohol cans of beer I found in local corner markets in Paris. Kind of sweet, malty, and mainly just nasty.

Mouthfeel - thin, not much going on. To be honest, I can't bare to take a big enough swig to get a good sense.

This isn't the worst beer I've ever had, but it's certainly among the top ten worst.

I'm drain-pouring the rest.

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Photo of Hugh37
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%

Photo of smellandsip37
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%

Photo of imbibehour
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

With a tag highlighting the 12% abv around the bottle, you know what the marketing angle is for this beer (too bad it wasn't 12% off in price). Poured into a tall pilsner glass.

Off the pour manages a small yellow caramel like head with a hint of orange, doesn't stick around or leave a collar, no lacing at all either. The body color is strange. It's a very obvious orange to some amber, cloudy, even some flakes in the glass also. This looks strange.

Nose is not too bad, but smells mostly like artificial candy and a small dose of cinnamon. Where is the malt, or even something like chocolate? Not even very sweet smelling, just some noticeable alcohol, odd.

Taste is a major letdown but what else with this sense of heat and artificial candy nose coming? Boozy hot, feels seltzer like, over fermented orange juice, not cinnamon candy not in a fun way, more like cough syrup. Fusel alcohol finish, faint malt just barely making a presence but can't make a dent.

Overall, this is really terrible, when you can have standard like Ayinger Celeberator or Weihenstephan Korbinian why would you even want this? Troegenattor please!

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Photo of DavidZammiello
1.8/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

My first Doppelbock, as far as I know. I shan't let it color my impression of the style, however.

Head quickly dissipated (due to the high alcohol content?).

After one or two sips, I had that barfy "been drinking bad beer all nite" taste in my mouth.

Avoid this one.

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Photo of dcotom
1.82/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.75

This is like a sweet, hot, boozy, flat grain soda whose only saving grace seems to be its exceptionally high ABV (a fact prominently advertised on a hang-tag on the bottle neck). I had to dump this after only a few sips. You can probably get the same experience (and save a little money) by dropping a shot of vodka into a Bud Light.

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2/5  rDev -23.7%

Photo of jham915
2/5  rDev -23.7%

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