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Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV) | Rinkuškiai

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110 Ratings
Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)Before-After Premium Lager (12% ABV)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Rinkuškiai
Lithuania
rinkuskiai.lt

Style: Euro Strong Lager

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by brewdlyhooked13 on 06-12-2010

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2.25/5  rDev -14.1%

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2.5/5  rDev -4.6%

Photo of metter98
2.47/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: The beer is crystal clear amber yellow in color and has a slight amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin white collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of fruity esters are present in the nose along with hints of sweet malts and fusel alcohol.
T: The taste follows the smell, except that the flavors of fusel alcohol are a little stronger.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied and somewhat clean on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation. Slight hints of warming are noticeable in the finish. The mouthfeel is slightly cloying.
O: While this beer masks a good portion of its alcohol—unlike what you might expect from a malt liquor—the sweetness can get a little cloying.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of kojevergas
1.71/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 1.75

$2.99 USD for a 12% Lithuanian lager? Sign me up...

Bottle comes with a cardboard hangtag to remind you you bought this just for its ludicrous ABV and the fact that you're a cheap bastard. 1 pint .9 fl oz format. Branded pry-off crown cap. Great label art with a built-in drunkenness joke...it's more clever than it seems at first glance.

12% ABV. "Premium lager." "European beer." "Naturally fermented" (whatever that implies...)

Served cold into a nonic.

APPEARANCE: I'll give it this - I expected horrid retention in a 12% ABV import budget lager, but it defies expectations, lasting a good 5-6 minutes. Not too shabby. Head is white in colour, with appealing softness and thickness to its robust consistency. No lacing adheres to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body is a clear obviously filtered vibrant pale copper. No yeast/lees are visible within.

It's a nice appearance for a generic European lager, no doubt. Not unique or special, but I find no obvious flaws and its head retention is impressive.

AROMA: Heavy on the malt syrup. Loads of malty sweetness is present - pale malt, crystal malt, caramalt. Ester-free lager yeast. Hard water. No graininess or hoppiness. Boy, does that seem sweet and syrupy. Ugh...

TASTE & TEXTURE: Cloyingly sweet particularly on the finish, with the heavy syrupy sludgy mouthfeel to match, dragging out its duration of flavour when all their target demographic wants is more blandness and a briefer taste so they (i.e. we) can just get plain ole fashioned knackered. Loads of off-putting saccharine malt extract/syrup, heavy layers of caramalt & crystal malt, generic pale malt sweetness...I'd prefer rice adjunct so at least it'd be lighter in body. Hell, I'd take watery over this.

I do have to give credit where it's due - I anticipated a much boozier brew. Not that this isn't hot (it most certainly is), but I'd figure it for 9-10% ABV trying it blind. Still, its sickly heavy viscous mouthfeel is repugnant and there's nothing here flavourwise for the discerning drinker...no graininess, no hop flavour (not even generic grassy or floral notes), no balancing bitterness.

Medicinal in the sense that it's a hell of a cure for sobriety.

Overcarbonated. Unrefreshing (obviously). Smooth. Wet. Difficult to approach or enjoy.

Shallow and simple, lacking any depth or nuance whatsoever.

OVERALL: I don't recall ever seeing this on my 3 odd trips to Vilnius, and its label really overplays the "European"/"Import" angle, implying the ostensible cachet of foreign origin is its main selling point when we all know it's really just a dressed up high gravity lager destined for the stomachs of students and(/or) drunks. I've had some rough budget Euro brews in my time and this is far from the worst of them, but finishing the bottle will prove a chore and, to be frank, it's deplorable rotgut you just shouldn't bloody buy outright.

Would pair well with an Aleve and some deeply seated personal regret.

High F (1.71) / AVOID

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Photo of Taphouse_Traveler
2.85/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Photo of NeroFiddled
3.36/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Rinkuškiai "After Before Triple Bock"
16.9 fl. oz brown glass bottle, coded "L.08523"
$2.99 @ Roger Wilco, Pennsauken, NJ

Notes via stream of consciousness: Having tried a second strong alcohol brew from Rinkuškiai I thought I'd give their "After Before" a chance. And I should point out that I don't have the name wrong. On the neck label it clearly reads "AFTER-BEFORE", as does the back label where it reads "BEER AFTER-BEFORE". It also lists it at 12% ALC/VOL. Perhaps they've changed their packaging and name because I can see from the photo of the lower gravity "After Before" that it's clearly labeled that way. So, moving forward, it's poured a slightly hazy golden body beneath a finger-thick head of off-white that almost immediately dropped to just a razor thin surface covering and standard collar. The aroma is malty sweet and fruity. It's clean, and no alcohol stands out. The flavor follows suit and it's very sweet. It's malty, and grainy, but not so much so that I'm not curious as to whether some adjunct has been used. It's also fruity with some moderately juicy apple, and that's pleasant. It blends with the malt nicely. In the finish there are some hops, very mild, that gently linger... I don't know if they're actually floral or if that's the alcohol talking, but they're also mildly herbal. In the end, however, it's unbalanced and the sweet malt lingers in the finish with a wash of alcohol - which at this point isn't so unwelcome as it helps to dry it! And the alcohol isn't hot, which is important to note, they didn't just churn this stuff out at a high temperature, but neither was it perfectly controlled. And let's keep in mind, there's a lot of malt here, and a lot of alcohol follows that. I can't imagine what the original gravity was. I'd have to guess it was about 24˚Plato. That's about all you can wring out of malt in the mash tun. Or was it lower to begin with and they bumped it up with sugar. No matter, it is what it is. But what is it? What have they labeled it as? Ahh, yes, "triple bock". I guess that fits. And the one I had earlier, the "Hell On High", that was a "quad bock". It's full-medium in body and mildly crisp. There's not a lot of carbonation to it, which I think hurts it. I understand you can only add so much more in such a full bodied beer but at least a little bit more would have given it some bite to help balance it. What did I miss? ... I covered its appearance, its aroma, its flavor, and its feel leaving only my general opinion remaining. Well, not unlike the "Hell On High" it's a very malty beer, and a strong one, so it should satisfy those customers. It's probably also packing a lot of calories so those who are looking to beef-up might want to check this out. Beyond that it's got some flaws but it's far from the worst beer I've had from the Baltic region, and in fact it's pretty well done in comparison for such a strong ale. That doesn't make it OK though, but on a world wide-level it's not so bad. At least it doesn't taste like they added anti-freeze to it! I can't really imagine buying this again though unless it was as a joke gift or hobo beer, and to be honest, I don't think even hobos would really go for it - and that put's it on the wine level of "Night Train"... they'll take it for the alcohol but they don't really like it. It is better than a lot of malt liquors that have less alcohol though. Tough call. On a world stage it's a little bit better than average based on its maltiness and its alcohol, but not by much.

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Photo of jlindros
3.45/5  rDev +31.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Semi fizzy head fades semi quickly with no lacing and head is completely gone soon, over golden nectar orange color.

Nose plenty of wheat, reddish malts, a light syrupy molasses candy aroma, some dark fruit raisin, fig, dried apricot, little booze.

Taste very sweet, wheats, malts, reddish wheat and malt, syrupy candy, some booze, hot, candi sugar, dried fruits white raisin, dried fig apricot and date, chewy malts. Finishes still semi sweet, lingering sticky malts, bit of fruit too.

Mouth is a bit heavier bodied, low carbonation, hot booze.

Overall not bad, nice wheat and malt flavors, chewy malts, good fruits, but too sweet and not enough carbonation.

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Photo of paulish
3.5/5  rDev +33.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Good beer with high level ABV

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1.47/5  rDev -43.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

500ml bottle - $2.99 at Hop City in Atlanta, Georgia.

Appearance: Crystalline, light golden-amber body with a small, sudsy white head.

Smell: Shockingly corrosive ethanol and a secondary whiff of something artificial, something ominous wafting up from this sad, shameful brew. It's a real feat to pick up any accents of malts or dark fruits.

Taste: Sugar and palate cutting alcohol annihilating any complexities, any subtler flavors, or really any hope for anything beyond a truly dreadful beer.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light body. Medium carbonation.

Overall: Reprehensible before, during, and after.

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3.5/5  rDev +33.6%

Photo of rab53
2.7/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

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2.5/5  rDev -4.6%

Photo of imbibehour
1.75/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

With a tag highlighting the 12% abv around the bottle, you know what the marketing angle is for this beer (too bad it wasn't 12% off in price). Poured into a tall pilsner glass.

Off the pour manages a small yellow caramel like head with a hint of orange, doesn't stick around or leave a collar, no lacing at all either. The body color is strange. It's a very obvious orange to some amber, cloudy, even some flakes in the glass also. This looks strange.

Nose is not too bad, but smells mostly like artificial candy and a small dose of cinnamon. Where is the malt, or even something like chocolate? Not even very sweet smelling, just some noticeable alcohol, odd.

Taste is a major letdown but what else with this sense of heat and artificial candy nose coming? Boozy hot, feels seltzer like, over fermented orange juice, not cinnamon candy not in a fun way, more like cough syrup. Fusel alcohol finish, faint malt just barely making a presence but can't make a dent.

Overall, this is really terrible, when you can have standard like Ayinger Celeberator or Weihenstephan Korbinian why would you even want this? Troegenattor please!

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2.16/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Review from 9/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a nice orange amber with virtually no head no lacing. Sour grain aroma. Taste is light sweet malt and alcohol. A kind of caramel flavor in the middle, but it is overwhelmed by alcohol and an acidic, estery flavor. Not very good. Hopefully won't give me a headache.

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Photo of tone77
3.05/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured from a brown 16.9 oz. bottle. Has a dark golden color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of grains, alcohol, slightly sweet. Taste is alcohol, grains, malts, more alcohol, sugar. Feels medium/light bodied in the mouth and overall is something I would not buy again. That being said, it is better than most American malt liquors that have a similar abv.

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Photo of Gavage
2.07/5  rDev -21%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2

Appearance: pour a clear orange color with no carbonation bubbles.

Smell: super sweetness rises from the glass.

Taste: grainy malt, and what seems like a ton of honey and a decent alcohol level. Bitterness is mild.

Mouthfeel: heavy in body. Smooth to start, syrupy and dry at the finish.

Overall: a super sweet beer that is hard to finish, and seems to be a pure headache inducer.

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2.5/5  rDev -4.6%

Photo of stevoj
2.54/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Sweet and pungent, but no alcohol burn surprisingly. Heavy grain presence in aroma and taste. Only one reason to drink this ... to get drunk. Mission accomplished! Sweet and grainy....but relatively smooth

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3.25/5  rDev +24%

Photo of jdhilt
3.35/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one, three-finger white head that vanishes leaving no lace. Crystal clear amber color. Light-medium carbonation and light-medium bodied (thinner than I expected). Light alcohol and caramel nose, flavor has hints of alcohol, caramel, hops are in background, not cloying. Not as bad as the ratings suggest. $4.50 for a 500ml bottle from Tully's Beer & Wine Wells, Me.

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Photo of beertunes
2.43/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Grabbed at the local food coop. Poured into 10oz glass. Poured a semi-hazy orangeish-yellow with just a thin cap of white head that had low retention and lacing.

The aroma was alcohol and bananas. Maybe a hint of rum. The flavors were pretty much the same. The body was thin, yet still managed to be sticky. While not terrible the beer was unpleasant enough to make 10 ounces tough to drink. I'm glad I shared the rest of the bottle. I'm not sure how the guys I shared it with felt about it though.

Overall, a below average beer. Try it for the hell of it, but you won't be missing anything if you skip it.

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Photo of hozersr
2.09/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Photo of bluejacket74
2.33/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

500 ml bottle. Served in a mug, the beer pours a mostly clear dark gold/amber color with a half inch off-white head. Head retention is decent, and there isn't much lacing at all. The brew smells like bready/grainy malt, sugar and booze. Unfortunately the taste is similar to the aroma. I think it tastes mostly like sugary booze, with some grainy malt noticeable too. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's syrupy and coating with low/moderate carbonation. This certainly wasn't one of the better brews I've had lately. But I also finished the bottle without a problem so it wasn't exactly awful either. $2.49 a bottle.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.53/5  rDev +34.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a dimple mug)

A- This beer has a slightly hazy slightly dense deep orange body with a thin bubbly head that breaks up soon and is supported by a strong carbonation of big bubbles.

S- The soft sweet malt aroma as a melanoidin quality and a touch of honey but is otherwise pretty clean.

T- The slight taste of butter blends with pot caramel and a light melanoidin note to the dry finish. There is some honey notes and a caramel banana ester note that comes through as the beer warms. As it warms the malt takes on a pale malt jolly rancher flavor.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel has an alcohol heat that is gentle in the beginning but grows to a full burn in the back of the throat.

O- The clean lagered beer has some nice malt notes with some ester character but this beer is a bit thin for the big alcohol that soon dominates.

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Photo of barczar
3.36/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

2013 vintage. Aroma is very sweet, caramelly, toasted, and there are actually melanoidin notes. Actually more depth than I expected. There's a bit if fruity fusel alcohol.

Flavor is fairly fruit laden, sharp grape upfront, with notes of dates and figs at the finish. The alcohol burn prevents the sweetness from being cloying.

Didn't hold out much hope for this one, so it's much better than expected.

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