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Morimoto Black Obi Soba Ale | Rogue Ales

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Morimoto Black Obi Soba AleMorimoto Black Obi Soba Ale
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Morimoto Black Obi Soba AleMorimoto Black Obi Soba Ale

Brewed by:
Rogue Ales
Oregon, United States

Style: American Black Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
12 Ingredients:
Malts: Roasted Soba, Harrington, Metcalf, Munich, C-15, C-60 and Carafa Special No. 2
Hops: Horizon, Sterling and Cascade. Yeast & Water: Rogue's Pacman Yeast & Free Range Coastal Water.

30 IBU
75 AA
36º Lovibond

Added by freed on 07-22-2004

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Ratings: 389 |  Reviews: 232
Photo of largadeer
3.71/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Dark chocolate in color with great head retention and tons of foamy lace.

S: I couldn't detect much other than some dark-roasted coffee aromas with this one, even at warmer temperatures.

T: Nutty and earthy, with a surprisingly crisp aftertaste for such a dark beer. While I wouldn't consider this one of Rogue's better dark beers, it has a unique character.

M: Fairly mellow carbonation and surprisingly not very thick, despite its appearance.

D: An easy beer to drink due to its fairly low ABV and crisp character. I like this, but Rogue has done better. Worth a try.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
4.12/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As I pour this beer it shows a brilliantly clear chocolate brown color, it sits in the glass a drab, opaque dark brown color. The head is voluminous and starts out about four-fingers thick. As it slowly falls down it creates a varied, rocky surface, all the while leaving a lacing pattern on the side of the glass. The aroma has a spicy grain like note to it and lots of chocolate-like malt notes as well. This is really quite rich and chocolaty; there is just enough roasted malt character to not add any sharp astringency. There is a touch of toasted malt character and a really solid backdrop of malted grain complexity. The aroma is quite smooth, and very enticing, we'll have to see how the flavor matches up to this aroma.

The beer rests lightly on the palate up front, but picks up soft creaminess that has the beer lingering nicely on the palate by the time one finishes a sip. Once again the chocolate character is the dominant component, but this time of the flavor. Up front the beer has a zippy carbonation, which combines with some spicy, almost grassy grain character to give this beer a change of pace from the chocolate notes. The chocolate notes really don't become dominant until about half way through a sip of this beer and it really melds well with the soft creamy body of this brew. Roasted toasty malt notes in the finish remind me of backed lightly ovened nuts, and a touch of lightly burnt crusty bread.

This is quite a nice brew, I can't say for sure what the soba is adding to this brew, but I am sure it is adding to the complexity. This beer boils down to the complex, dark malt / grain profile that is delivered by a relatively light, easily quaffable brew.

Purchased: Plaza Liquors, Tucson AZ

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Photo of AmorousAngel
4.18/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured very dark brown with red tint. Small, off-white head. Light lacing.

Roasted malt and coffee aroma.

Dominated by the roasted malt, with just enough hops to balance without being overly aggressive. Coffee and nutty undertones. Packed with a lot of flavor considering it is such a low alcohol beer.

Medium-bodied with creamy texture. Low carbonation.

Very flavorful, without being too filling.

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Photo of cabsandking
3.39/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reddish brown, dark mahogany pour. Huge, fluffy 3 finger head, tan color and holds up pretty well. Sweet malt, toffee nose. Toasted malts, coffee. Bitter presents from the hops, but hop flavor is very subtle. Dark chocolate and espresso. Thin body which thickens as it warms. Sticky mouth feel and lingering toasted malt finish will not let you forget what you're drinking. Becomes buttery and wheat, grass like towards the end. Good beer, but was expecting more.

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Photo of ggaughan
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I picked this 15th Anniversary beer up at the Kclinger's Public House before it closed awhile back. The beer poured a deep dense brown, almost black color with a very thick and bubbly head that lasted for awhile and finally gave way to a tan swirly layer over the dense body and had good lacing. The aroma is toasted, has a touch of coffee maybe. The taste is a more intense toasted malt taste with a bit of hop bitterness on the backend to round things out nicely. The body is medium and there is a good lingering bitterness on the tough. Another solid Rogue brew.

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Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.64/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - viewed straight on, this pours like any other porter. Dark and impenetrable. Held up to light, a deep ruby shows beneath a rocky light-tan head of maybe a finger. Large streaks and patches of lace around the glass.

Aroma - roast malt and a little espresso to start, but they fade into obscurity and leave a vague, biscuity nose after a minute.

Taste - a very unusual combination of flavors here. Initial roasty malts that have some earthy, grassy properties and then turn quite buttery. Like buttered popcorn butter. There is some respectable balancing of the hops that occur on the swallow, but they are not major players here. The aftertaste is nearly as entertaining as the taste itself, with nicely roasted malts coming through, a slight drying bitterness, and fading buttery notes. I always enjoy tasting something different, this is a nice change of pace.

Mouthfeel - about average weight, slightly above average carbonation. Slightly sticky in the mouth, lending some good flavor resilience.

Drinkability - not so sessionable to me, but a cool one for a beer tasting.

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Photo of BlindPig
4.05/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Thin tan head. Was black with brown edges. Head stays for a long time, leaves pretty thick lacing which sticks to side of glass.
S-Roasted smell. Nuts and lots of malt. Maybe a light sweet hop smell also?
T-Roasted taste. Couldn't really put my finger on any of the flavors, all seemed pretty well blended. Sweetish aftertaste, with a light bitter taste to it also.
M-Med/high carbonation. Medium body.
D-Was another good brew from Rogue. They have yet to let me down.

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Photo of Phatz
3.95/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Dark brown ruby color.

Smell: Dark malty aroma with hints of mocha and nibbling hop presence.

Taste: Super roasty flavor of dark malts coffee chocolate and nuts; then to top it all of is a hop nibbling at the palate. mmm.

Mouthfeel: Black coffee bitter keeps it feeling big in the mouth.

Drinkability: I really like this beer. It is different. If you like this beer try Weyerbacher Black Hole.

Hope this is helpful.

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Photo of DrJay
3.62/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Very dark, clear ruby/chestnut colour with a short cap of dark tan head. Decent retention with a bit of stickage as well. Aromas of light powdery hops and a nutty, chocolatey, caramel malt sweetness. Mild to moderate bitterness and hop flavour with a burnt malt character that's a little too strong. There's a bit of sweetness that's more prominent towards the finish, as is a hint of chocolate. The body is on the light side with a slightly creamy texture and plenty of roasted dryness. Interesting and well brewed, but just a little dull.

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Photo of scruffwhor
4.07/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance- Pours a black leather hue with hints of steak in the highlights. Few bubbles visible in this dark ale. A lightly eveil white head keeps with a film for about half of my 650ml bottle.

Smell- A dark malt with hints of hazelnut, earthy coffee, and an odd herbal aroma I can only assume is the black obi soba.

Taste- A very schwarzbier tasting ale. Roasted mlats with a lager like crispness. Not to mention the cashew or maybe walnut like character of the black obi. Very unique.

Mouthfeel- Crisp as well as a little creamy and herbal. The soba brings new flavors to the table for what looks like an average German beer. But it's not!!!

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Photo of zjungleist
3.85/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dull black/dark brown with a tan head. Smells basically just like a schwarzbier, but slightly more fruity in the yeast dept. Taste is pretty much similar, with some chocolate and roasted malts, but with a little somethinge extra that a schwarz wouldnt usually have, and that's most likely ale yeast. Mouthfeel is a little on the heavy side of medium. Overall I think I liked the regular Morimoto soba beer better, but this was fair as well. Sometime I'll breakdown and buy the imperial pilsner, because the rest of his line has turned out decent. On the other hand, now that I've had this one, I doubt I'll buy it again.

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Photo of RBorsato
4.33/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Black with ruby and mahogany hues with a nice full tan head. Nice roasty malt aroma and flavors much like a mocha coffee; thankfully nothing like the regular Soba Ale. Actually, does not have any "soba-like" character at all. A bit of chocolate character tops it off nicely. Light-medium bodied with a creamy smoothness and a roasty dry coffee-like finish.

Nice !

Per Bottle: 12 P, IBU 30, AA 75.2, 36 L. Roasted Soba, Metcalf, Munich, Harrington, C-15, C-60, and Carafa Special #2 Malts. Horizon, Sterling, and Cascade hops.

Per Rogue website: Roasted Buckwheat and malts (2-row pale, Minuch, C-15, C-60 and Weyermann). Horizon, Sterling and Cascade hops.

($3.99 / 22 oz. lithographed bottle)

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Photo of jettjon
3.88/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Highs: Appearance, flavor
Lows: None

Pours a deep cranberry red bordering on brown with no visible carbonation. Head is fluffy dark tan, about 2 fingers fading at a moderate pace and leaving good lacing. Nose is primarily malty though not overly so, with a small amount of hops evident as well. Taste is dark toasted malt and a bit of coffee, quite similar to a stout, with little hops presence except at the end. Finishes with toasted malt and mild bitterness. Mouth is pretty decent, with moderate carbonation and a mildly creamy body. Drinkability is very good; it feels good on the palate, has a mild but distinctive flavor, and has a reasonable ABV. Also, the pricing is pretty decent at about 4.29 for a pint-and-a-half.

Overall: This beer is classified as a “fruit/vegitable beer” by BA, but it presents more like a moderate to mild stout. Definitely worth a try, and definitely a conversation-stimulating brew.

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Photo of Zorro
3.08/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Pours a clear deeply brown colored ale with a fast fading light brown head.

Smell is sweet and wheaty with a lot of dark roasted malt aroma. Fairly strong chocolate and coffee aromas and quite bready in scent.

Taste is neutral and slightly bitter in the beginning. Lots of roasted malt flavor here to the point that this is sharply bitter in taste from it. Faint chocolate and coffee flavor but it has a really hard time getting past the charred grain flavor. Surprisingly strongly flavored this really taste much more like a dry porter than a wheat or fruit beer. There is an acrid harshness to this beer that is not pleasant.

Mouthfeel is good.

Drinkability just isn't this beers strong suit. There is a harshness to the flavor from too much charred malt. This is distinctly burned in flavor and much closer to a porter or stout than anything else. A beer I can't recommend.

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Photo of IntriqKen
4.06/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I'm not really sure what style this is supposed to be so I am going to rate it on it's merits alone.
Pours a deep coffee black with red undertones.
Head is thick tan that melts slowly to very heavy, sticky lacing which covers the entire glass.
Aroma is subtle but burnt malt and sweet nuts.
Taste is also subtle...beginning with toasted malt then moving to burnt malts and then a nutty taste. A touch of carmel with hints of coffee seem to find their way onto the tongue as well
Caramel nuts and burnt malt tastes linger in the mouth long after you swallow. Roasty-toasty goodness.
The mouthfeel is rich and tingly with a slightly bitter or biting carbonation.
Clean and fresh and very flavorful.
Very drinkable as well because it is actually very, very light for a dark beer.
I enjoyed this one and will definately pick it up again. In some ways it reminded me of a really good Black & Tan

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Photo of russpowell
3.54/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked this up in Lincoln, Neb figured what the heck?

Pours Dark ruby red to mahogany with a tightly packed 2 fingers mocha head. Good head retention & lacing

Smell: Slight malt, smoky &licorice hints. A slight mustyness detracts

Taste: Dark malt, smoked malt (slight) and light licorice notes. Also faint tappiocca (sp? ie rice pudding) flavor. Finishes fruitty & with hints of saspirilla?

MF: Good carbonation but a schkoosh thin for me

Drinks okay, couldn't drink more than a few, not complex enough to hold my attention all night or day as the case may be. I enjoyed this more than the sobe ale I tried by far

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Photo of Ahhdball
3.4/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Black colored topped with a decent two fingered beige head.
Roasted nuts and cut grass aroma.
Smooth milk flavor, more grains and hints of the roasted nuts follow. Crisp clean hop finish.
Slick but not oily. Finishes clean and leaves nothing behind. This is almost like a porter. Save for the eathiness in the taste. Good beer but I doubt I'd buy it again.

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Photo of GClarkage
3.2/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

04/25/06- Purchased at Draeger's Market in San Mateo, CA.

Presentation- 22oz bottle, no freshness date given. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

Appearance- Medium black color, 3/4 inch white head. Average lacing left behind.

Smell- Sweeter smell with some heavily roasted malts. Not much hop scent.

Taste- Very bland. Almost a charcoal like smokey taste going on. Very deep roasted malt. No sweetness at all. Dry with a bitter hit. Maybe a light touch of chocolate.

Mouthfeel- Medium carbonation, bitter aftertaste.

Drinkability- This is one of the few beers I have had that really didn't taste like anything. It wasn't bad, it wasn't good. It was just there. Kinda like an Irish Dry Stout, except with out the minimal flavor. To this beer I say...huh? I guess that means it's kinda interesting in it's own sorta way. But then again this is me talkin' after three bombers.

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Photo of phisig137
3.4/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a light black with lots of brown highlights.... maybe it a dark brown, maybe a light black. Thick creamy head rises, and falls slowly, leaving behind nice lacing.

Aroma is grainy with a hint of roast. Not much here, but pleasant.

Flavor is pretty good. Slight coffee, roasted malts,and some flavor on the finish that I can't pick out... must be the soba. Good flavor, but quite mild and restrained. No hops, and a very slight hint of coconut. Also, the flavor profile of the "pacman" yeast seems to really shine here, more than any of thier other beers.

Mouthfeel is creamy, but a little thin, and drinkability is high. Pretty good beer, but not one of the better rogue's that I've ever had.

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Photo of scooter231
3.88/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a fruit/vegetable beer? Weird weird weird... Pours a dark brown, clear color- reminds me of dark flavored syrup. Had a nice, big tan poofy head. Doesn't look like a fruit beer.

Nose is mostly coffee, with some roasted and malty smells coming through. Taste reminds me a bit of root beer, or tangy coffee. More roastedness throughout, and cream. It's a very interesting taste- sweet, bitter, creamy, all at once. Very very interesting.

Mouthfeel is medium-bodied, slick and wet. Barely watery, with a drying finish. Drinkable for the style to be sure- but you have to be in the mood for this one. A unique beer to be sure.

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Photo of klewis
2.84/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A: Pours dark brown with a massive frothy head. The thickist lacing I've ever seen covers the glass.

S: Pale ale-like hop smell with some vegetal celeryish aromas.

T: Much like the smell, the taste is somewhat bitter, with some hop flavor and very strong flavors of carrots or celery. Too bad I'm not a fan of vegetables.

M: Surprisingly light in body live a clean, watery finsih.

D: This isn't a bad beer, but I'm not a big fan of the taste or mouthfeel. Others that have more of an appreciation for vegetables may enjoy this more.

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4/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Morimoto poured a blackish/brown color but when the light hits the glass it reveals a deep amber around the sides. The head was very light coffee/cream color and fairly thin....it left a nice design of bubbles on the top after it dissipated, and a thin watery lacing.

The smell is of light fruit(maybe some kind of berry, but just a slightly) and sweet malts. The cascade hops that I am becoming all so familiar with from sierra nevada are also present.

The taste is of sweet malt, and slightly nutty at first....but soon turns to a very crisp hops finish. This is an extremely well balanced beer.

Drinkability/mouthfeel: i really like the ample carbonation that this beer has for a brown ale. it is refreshing. I can only imagine what moritmoto would prepare to go with it. Like most of rogues beer this is even better with food.

does anyone know why this is a fruit/veggie beer....i don't see it.

now that I think of it....it kinda reminds me of Abita Turbodog

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Photo of PorterLambic
3.35/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from the big bottle (22oz.?) a very dark brown with red all around the edges.
Slightly sweet smell with notes of malt, smoke and candied fruits.
Taste continues that theme and adds a touch of molasses to it.
A medium bodied brew, smooth but with a slightly watery and clean finish, sadly. Wanted this one to linger on the palate a bit. A good brew that at least gets better as it warms.

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Photo of Gagnonsux
3.75/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Black Obi is dark brown, almost black with a large tan head. Head is fairly creamy and thick. Aroma is sweet and nutty, almost nutmeg-like actually, atop a roasted malt body. Flavor is dominated by a smoth nutty flavor, similar to hazelnut, with an edge of caramel. Malt base is sweet and lightly roasted with a vague chocolate flavor in the mix as well. Overall flavor is just a bit on the thin side for this to be truly great. Drinkability is very good, I could definently kick back with this again. I think Texas now has the entire Rogue Morimoto line, except for the imp pilsner, too bad that's the one I most want to try.

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Photo of allengarvin
3.82/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours out a dark black with quite a lot of bubbles coating the side of the glass. Modest tan head that fades quickly. Good nutty, roasted, bread-like aroma. Very coffee-ish flavor, lots of roast grain, and a subtle sweetness offset by the roast malt and light bitterness. Finishes with a lingering toasty, lightly caramel flavor. The body seems a little thin and watery, though it has a bit of chewiness.

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Morimoto Black Obi Soba Ale from Rogue Ales
Beer rating: 3.65 out of 5 with 389 ratings
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