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John John Hazelnut (Rum Barrel Aged) | Rogue Ales

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John John Hazelnut (Rum Barrel Aged)John John Hazelnut (Rum Barrel Aged)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Rogue Ales
Oregon, United States
rogue.com

Style: American Brown Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
"Rogue Hazelnut Brown Nectar aged in Rogue's Hazelnut Spiced Rum barrels."

13 Ingredients:
Harrington, Klages, Brown, Carastan 13/17, Crystal 70/80, Crystal 135/165, Beeston Pale Chocolate & Rogue Micro Barley Farm Dare™ malts; Saaz and Rogue Micro Hopyard Revolution Hops; Hazelnut Extract, Free Range Coastal Water & Top Fermenting Pacman Yeast.

13º PLATO
34 IBU
77 AA
3.2º Lovibond

Added by Docer on 07-19-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
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Reviews:
142
Ratings:
234
pDev:
18.16%
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Ratings: 234 |  Reviews: 142
Photo of Sammy
3.45/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This meets the mark of brown ales. It is opaque brown,with some brown ring. The aroma is apricot more than malt. The carbonation is right there from a fresh bottle, brown sugar with a little sourness in the finish. Some rum,like the brown sugar. Ok drinkability.

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Photo of kylehay2004
3.57/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Two finger brown tinged head, amber/brown color.

S: Hazelnut and spice is obvious. Additional malts.

T: The hazelnut and sweetness is in the aftertaste. Otherwise a pretty malt beer. Spices, rum and vanilla notes.

M: Light bodied. Moderate carbonation. Very drinkable.

Overall: The hazelnut was very nicely done in this one. Maybe its the base taste that makes it a B beer but the flavor notes and aroma are the high points for this one.

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Photo of Texasfan549
4/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of GRG1313
2.2/5  rDev -36.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

This is a perfectly stored bottle from Hi Times and tasted shortly after being removed from its cooler.

Pours a beautiful dark clear copper red with a nice but thin and quickly fading light tan head.

Nose has a red wine fruit forward fruity nose that is pleasing and inviting albeit light and not very forthcoming; a hint of hazelnut because you're looking for it and no rum or wood character at all.

Mouthfeel is thin and much more "Rogue like" than the John John in Gin barrels. Mouthfeel is watery, diluted, light carbonation and not inviting or inspiring.

Flavors are faint, light, simple and boring. In fact, the flavors are so weak as to be almost non-descript. Tastes like weak lager. Light watery yeast and a hint of hop and malt. No hazelnut, no rum no wood in the flavors whatsoever.

A "dirty water" finish and little else. I opened a second bottle from another case. Same review.

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Photo of kjkinsey
4/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of djrn2
4/5  rDev +15.3%

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3/5  rDev -13.5%

Photo of BEERchitect
4.04/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Very savory and sweet, Rogue's Hazelnut Brown Ale takes on a facelift with added spice, alcohol, and complexity because of the rum barrel aging.

The aroma takes on a very distinct peanut britle nose with buttery toffee, roasted pecans, deep caramels, and the very sweet and subtle scent of rum-like alcohols.

Flavors of toffee, hazelnuts, and melded chocolates lead a sweet start into an even sweeter finish. But the woody, nutty, spicy flavors seem to give a much needed variety and complexity to the one-dimensional base beer. This beer is richer, more robust, but still with the finess noted in the Hazelnut Ale.

Somehow, I always want a richer body out of the oringal Hazelnut and I do so here as well. Medium throughout, but the alcohols seem to take on a bitey and thinning feel here. Not unpleasant, but I need the beer to give me more tooth.

A delicious Brown Ale that takes on a decidedly sweet flavor and feel. With emphasis heavily on the hazelnut additions, this rum-aged version is better decorated at the peripheries.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.53/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The ingredient stats on the bottle available this side of the 49th are slightly askew from those stated here, including, most prominently, an ABV of 6.2%...

This beer pours a slightly muddled ruddy amber hue, with two fingers of foamy pale beige head, which leaves zip in the way of lace as it fades away. It smells of sweet bready/biscuity malt, a bit of nutmeg, clove, and mild boozy wood barrel. The taste is more sweet bready malt, and a dry, almost gingerbread/pumpkin pie spiciness, supplemented by an earthy woody character. The carbonation is quite sedate, the body medium weight, smooth, and just a tad cloying. It finishes off-dry, the nutty malt still stronger that the proffered miscellaneous dryness .

I very much like the hazelnut, in fact, it's my favorite nut, and by that metric, there ain't no hazelnut in this here beer. A shame, that. Much more a fall Oktoberfest/Winter Spice offering than the titular barrel promise, but in my experience, rum is rather quiet in its influence on any manner of aged content.

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Photo of oline73
2.7/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a bottle into a sample glass.

Appearance: Pours a very cloudy dark amber color with just a hint of off white head.

Smell: Slightly sweet and bready from malt. Just a hint of dark fruit.

Taste: Quite malty, but not too sweet. A bit nutty with some grain and a slight bitterness in the end. I wouldn't have ever guessed this was aged in rum barrels.

Mouthfeel: A bit on the thin side with a good amount of carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I was pretty disappointed by this one. I think it was worse than the regular version and I wouldn't have it again.

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Photo of zeff80
3.08/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Poured out a clear, burgundy color with a one-finger, tan head of foam. It left a little sudsy lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of hazelnut and some mild rum notes. A sweet overall aroma.

T - Strong hazelnut flavor with sweet caramel. The rum flavor is there but not as strong as the aroma.

M - It was crisp and smooth with a slightly sticky mouthfeel. A medium bodied ale.

O - This didn't really work for me. The rum made this a really sweet brew.

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Photo of zestar
3.75/5  rDev +8.1%

Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev +8.1%

Photo of oberon
3.8/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a standard pint glass a deep amber hued chesnut brown with a thinner quick to fade off white head.Caramel toffee and some light toastiness mainly in the nose,light vanilla shows thu lightly as well.A bit thin and on the prickly side at first in the feel department but it mellows after a bit.Flavors have more of the hazelnut presence I think than the aromas,lightly toasted hazlenuts and caramel toffee mainly,a decent earthy dryness in the finish to keep it from being overly sweet.Its a mellow tasting brown ale but it has some decent oaky/nutty flavors to it.

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Photo of nickfl
4/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of mactrail
3.55/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I wouldn't have guessed hazelnuts, though the first taste lets you know there is something strange about this beer. Not nutty, to me, in the usual sense. After a few sips the buttery taste becomes very apparent. Also some subtle sour flavors along with a dose of salt and bitterness. Not sweet but some richness. Hops are more in the front and fade away in the aftertaste. Hazy amber color.

Interesting, with the "what on earth is that flavor" nagging at you. My wife liked it a lot. Clean and very drinkable.

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Photo of smcolw
3.58/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dense, slightly off-white head recedes quite slowly leaving a dome and extensive spotty lace. The broth is neutral brown where light passes through easily. Appears to have a very soft haze.

Sweet honey aroma. Mild darker crystal malt smells are also present. This reminds me of a sweet brown ale.

The initial sip is rather non-descript. It's only on the swallow that the flavor come forward: a mixture of toasted malts and light hop. There's an element of brown sugar and chocolate malt to the flavor that is appealing. Good body with a moderate carbonation. The aftertaste has a soft bitterness that balances the stronger sweetness.

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Photo of russpowell
3.26/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours amber with a thumb of tan head. Good lacing & head retention

S: Brown bread, pears, brown sugar, all fade as this warms

T: Slight nuttyness, pears, herbal hops, slight rum notes up front. Dryness, figs, plums & leafy hops as this warms, also some tart cherry. Finishes dry, figgy, with nutmeg, & candied fruit

MF: Light bodied, over carbonated, dry

An average brown ale, the barrel aging is half-assed. This either needed more time in the barrel, or they should've put something with more heft in them. A noble but flawed endeavor, I do think they had the start of a great Christmas/Winter ale but got too cheap with the malt bill. Still enjoyed some of the spice & fruittyness

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.16/5  rDev -37.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

16 ounce pint at Taco Mac in Canton, Georgia.

Appearance: The shifty bartender, unable to make eye-contact, nervously places before me a clearish, darkened brown-amber body with a scant, light beige head. Does he know something I don't?

Smell: It's just an odd aroma, really. Illgotten spices scattered over berries and grapes and thrown into a vat of raw alcohol, giving a scent akin to over-the-counter cough syrup. I know I don't waste my money on those flu shots, but, come on, I'm not sick and don't need sixteen ounces of medicine. Unacceptable!

Taste: Slim maltiness, nil sweetness, and, actually, I find it a little hard to detect the hazelnut found in the standard Brown Nectar. That same medicine character carrying over from the aroma. I'm not tasting anything I'd feel confident labeling as tasting of rum (which I like, as I've been known to take a long gluglug pull from the bottle). It's like the barrel just sucked the absolute life oughta this beer without putting anything (at least anything good) back. Heated, boozy finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-thin body. Lightly carbonated. It's kind of dead in my mouth, just like my hope and interest in the continuation of the John John barrel-aging series.

Drinkability: A beer where everyone and everything you ever cared about is ripped from you and you are left spinning in a black, featureless void of nothingness, unable to feel anything but the slow, dull ache of remembrance as to how the world used to be. Rogue took a beer I've always enjoyed and turned it into something horrific.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.15/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Much closer to dark apricot orange than hazelnut brown. The cashew colored crown is not up to this brewery's usual standards. The foam doesn't have very interesting topography and almost no lace is making its way to the glass. Liquor barrel-aging tends to do that.

The aroma is underpowered, even when the head has largely faded away. JJA smells like a toasted bready brown ale with a hint of hazelnut. Spiced rum is not appreciated. Looks like there's some work to be done on the palate.

If full-strength Hazelnut Brown Nectar is truly the base beer, and is aged in barrels that had previously contained spiced rum, then how in the world does the ABV go from 6.2% to 5.0%? Unless less malt is used in this offering... which is what it tastes and feels like. Sorry, but I'm not feeling this John John.

Specifics include brown bread with a small amount of earthy caramel and an even smaller amount of hazelnut (splash of Frangelico). Still no rum and still no spice. There simply is not enough barley to deliver the proper amount of depth and boldness of flavor. Even a modest bitterness has no trouble burying whatever sweetness might have been present.

The mouthfeel is too thin (even taking ABV into account) and the bubbles are harsh and fizzy, living at the edges of the beer rather than buried within and creating creaminess. Yet again, not up to the usual Rogue standards... at... all.

Either Rogue Brewery is slipping or they haven't yet figured out how to barrel age beer. John John Hazelnut (Rum Barrel Aged) is a disappointing effort that isn't anywhere near as good as Hazelnut Brown Nectar. Unless major changes are made, there's no need for this one to be released again.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

had the chance to try this one on tap at barleys last night. my last big night out before a month long beer stop. served cold and into a pint glass, this one was consumed on 11/07/2010.

the pour was a nice medium brown color with a smooth even head of lace that was tinged the slightest color of off white. decent lacing but a fairly bare top.

aroma is light run notes, lots of roasted malts and hints of brown sugar that all seem to play off each other quite nicely and leave a pleasant, earthy air to them. a bit lighter then i was expecting but it seemed to work as each sip let the flavor bounce around the tongue and lead to warm run notes, dark malts, lots of sweet notes and a touch of spice in the finish.

overall not the most interesting of beers from rogue i have ever ha but i certainly cannot complain.

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Photo of womencantsail
2.57/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Stuffed Sandwich

A: The pour is a dark amber/light brown color with a finger of off-white head.

S: Smells strange. A little bit sour, perhaps? Strange fruity notes along with oak and certainly some rum. Certainly malty with a bit of dark fruit. I don't get the nice nuttiness of the regular beer at all, unfortunately.

T: A slight burn of rum initially, followed by the flavor and a bit of oak. Again, the nuttiness of the brown ale is really covered up here. Sweet toffee and bread with the sweet hazelnut coming through ever so slightly. A little tartness here too. I'm not sure if it's the booze or if the beer is actually sour.

M: Medium in body with a moderate to high level of carbonation.

O: Seems like all the John John beers have a weird trait to them (tartness). This one didn't work out, even though I really wanted it to.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
4/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Murky, unfiltered brown ale body. Thin head with good retention.

S - Fall cookie spices in the nose. Nutmeg, all spice, and ginger bread.

T - Fall spices follow in the taste. Nutmeg, vanilla bean, sweet malt. Sweetness akin to milk sugar, with a milky mouth as well. Tart and sweet fruit skin. A good dose of nutty, chewy grains as well.

M - So creamy and soft. Tingly carbonation with a pretty clean finish.

O - The sweet cookie spices add a nice dimension to this brown ale, bringing in thoughts of fall.

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Photo of aasher
3.12/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer pours an syrupy looking amber in color with a light off white head that dissipated within ten seconds. It smells of sweet candied sugars, cinnamon, spices, oak, and hazelnut. I don't get any rum though. It tastes of spices, cinnamon rolls, light wood, and has a light, light rum component. It's almost syrupy and artificial. It's just too spicy and the base beer isn't big enough. It drinks light and sticky. It's an average beer all around. The concept is there, but the execution isn't.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.8/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Review from 8/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a dark orange brown with a light head and minimal lacing. Light nutty malt aroma. Strong hazelnut and mild malt start and middle. Dry finish with a light memory of hazelnut. Not memorably different than the Hazelnut Brown. Not sure if the barrel aging changed that much; perhaps a slight bit mellower.

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John John Hazelnut (Rum Barrel Aged) from Rogue Ales
Beer rating: 3.47 out of 5 with 234 ratings
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