John John Dead Guy Ale | Rogue Ales

John John Dead Guy AleJohn John Dead Guy Ale
BA SCORE
3.81/5
577 Ratings
John John Dead Guy AleJohn John Dead Guy Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Rogue Ales
Oregon, United States
rogue.com

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.40%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"Dead Guy Ale aged in Dead Guy Whiskey Barrels"

Malts: Carastan, Rogue Micro-Barley Farm Dare & Risk malts.
Hops: Saaz, Willamette, Rogue Micro-Farm Hop Yard Revolution hops.
Yeast & Water: Pacman Yeast & Free Range Coastal Water.

16º PLATO
40 IBU
78 AA
16º Lovibond

Added by RedBrewer83 on 01-10-2010

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#13,799
Reviews:
300
Ratings:
577
pDev:
13.91%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
22
Gots:
31
Trade:
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Photo of Texasfan549
3/5  rDev -21.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

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3/5  rDev -21.3%

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4/5  rDev +5%

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4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Knapp85
3.27/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This is a slightly above average brew, The beer poured out as a light orange color with a thin white head on top. The smell of this beer wasn't too bad. There was a noticable amount of barrel aromas in there along with the malts and some faint hops in the distance. The taste was really good on the first sip, there was a good amount of barrel aged flavors but as I drank more it seems to fade away. The beer starts to taste like a normal Dead Guy ale to me by mid glass. The mouthfeel of the beer was again a little on the thin side which bugs the hell out of me... Overall I've had much better barrel aged beers in the passed. I wouldn't buy this one again.

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4/5  rDev +5%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of metter98
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is hazy orange amber in color. It poured with a half finger-high off white head that quickly died down and left a thin film of bubbles covering the surface and a thick ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are light to moderately strong aromas of malts and oak in the nose.
T: The beer is quite malty and the barrel aging process contributes notes of oak and hints of whiskey. Hints of spices are also present in the taste.
M: It feels on the high side of medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. The finish has a bit of dryness and hints of stickiness.
O: The whiskey barrel aging makes the aroma and flavors slightly more interesting compared to other beers in the style.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

If the idea of aging one of your ales in a used spirits barrel, then using one of your own barrels is a marvelous idea. It makes me think that the actual Rogue whisky isn't so important, but the barrels to age beers in... a different story?

John John Ale starts out looking a lot like regular Dead Guy: A medium copper color, low carbonation fuels a slight head that fades soon enough. Soft white foam with no lacing.

Aromas of rich caramel, high fruits, and mild alcohols hit up front. Maltiness seems very sweet with caramel and toffee leading the way. Apples, peaches, and appricots follow in strong Rogue fashion. Alcohols are present but seem to weave in and out of the sweetness very well.

Flavors are even sweeter than I got from the nose. Extremely caramelly in a one-dimentional kinda way. Fruitiness does accurately portray the tropical varieties found in aroma. Alcohols and woods may have given an oddly sharp bitterness that proved to be as much a distraction as a reprieve from sweetness. A nearly soapy note comes in late and keeps me from completely buying in to the beer.

The body is rich and sweet; almost cloying. With low carbonation the sweetness seems to linger on the tongue indefinately. Alcohol warmth is welcomed as it thins the beer for better attenuation and much needed dryness.

I am happy to see this experiment with the Rogue-on-Rogue barrel aging. While this beer finishes on the sweeter, stickier side I stand my their efforts.

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4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber.

This beer pours a hazy, medium golden amber hue, with two fingers of tight foamy, creamy off-white head, which leaves some nice webbed lace around the glass as it duly recedes. It smells of sweet and astringent whiskey barrel characteristics - vanilla and wood, over a generic maltiness. The taste is semi-sweet malt, followed by that unmistakable bourbon whiskey - nutty vanilla, corn mash, caramel, wet wood, and mild alcohol. A bit of bitter leafy hoppiness rounds things out. The carbonation is quite sedate, the body medium weight and smooth enough. It finishes bittersweet, the barrel, malt and alcohol intermingling to that effect.

An enjoyable whiskey influenced beer - the subtleties of the base bock overridden by the barrel. That's not to say that this is over the top, just that it's nicely augmented by the extra flavours.

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4/5  rDev +5%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a dark burgundy color ale with a rather large foamy head with good retention and minimal lacing. Aromas of whisky notes are quite dominant with some light caramel malt notes also noticeable. Taste is a good mix between the caramelized sugars from the malt backbone with some nice whisky notes that are not too boozy. Body is about average with good carbonation. Nothing earth shattering here but very nice nonetheless.

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of mothman
3.55/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured this into my Bruery Snifter.

It pours a clear golden yellow. I smelled it and tasted it and it wasn't very flavorful. One of the guys at the store said to mix in the sediment on the bottom of the bottle to get some flavor into the beer so that is what I did.

The beige head that is poured is a very small layer. The color then turns out a little better with the sediment and becomes a golden sunset orange.

Aroma: Reminds me of a Belgian Pale Ale, which I find to be odd. Has some cloves with lots of malt. Very light whiskey flavor.

Taste: More whiskey here, but still pretty light. Can't taste a lot of the dead guy flavors in the beer. Again, I get cloves and malt. Nothing is too distinguishable for the flavor. Fairly light flavored.

Mouthfeel: Dry and smooth. Lighter bodied with a lower to medium level of carbonation. Ends fairly clean.

Overall, this beer was simply odd. It didn't have a lot going on. I didn't pick up too much of the base beer in the flavor. I really don't expect a lot of this to sell at the price of near $9 a bomber. This beer just didn't taste anything like I expected.

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3.95/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

22 oz bottle served in a St. Bernardus snifter.

A: The beer is hazy orange-amber in color. It poured into my snifter with a sudsy head that quickly died down to a thin partial film over the surface and a thin ring around the edge of the glass.

S: Moderately strong aromas of malts, whiskey and wood in the somewhat fruity nose. Interesting and complex, although not a perfect mix in my nose.

T: The flavor is a little better than the aroma, with a solid malt/barley base, beer is quite malty and notes of wood and whiskey from the barrel aging process. Hints of yeast, spicy and herbal hops, honey and dark fruits are also present in the taste. Good sweet/sour/bitter balance, leaning slight towards the sweet/sour dimensions.

M: On the high side of medium-bodied with a very good, low-moderate amount of carbonation. Quite smooth with nearly no alcohol harshness.

O: A rich and complex ale I enjoyed quite a bit despite having no particular fondness for whiskey. The whiskey barrel aging adds a good level of wood and whiskey to the aroma and flavor, and probably contributes to the fine mouthfeel. Improved with warming.

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3.28/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a creamy amber with hints of orange. Head is approximately half finger tall, off white, and dissipates quickly. There is no lacing.

S: Aromas of malts with floral hops, spices, oak, and vanilla.

T: Flavors are sweet from the malts with some hints of bitterness. The oak, vanilla, and spices really come out as the beer warms.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and a slight creaminess.

O: Better than I expected and not as much alcohol warming as some beers that have been stored in spirits barrels. You can easily detect the taste from the whiskey barrels. This beer would warm you nicely if you were drinking it on a cool spring day.

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3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a huge 3 finger head on my aggressive pour. It fades at a medium pace with fluffy bubbly results. The beer is very clear golden orange color.

N: Semi bock like, with some malts, dark wheats, sweet toasty wheat malts, a little caramel, some oak and vanilla too, quite a bit of vanilla, somewhat creamy. Touch of toasty sweet malty lager like aromas.

T: Starts somewhat bourbony and a little boozy. Semi sweet with creamy wheat malts, a little caramel and sweet syrup, A little chewy malts. Some toastiness and touch of sweet malts lager flavors. A little boozy and alcohol flavor which is surprising for only being 6.4%. Touch of oak and some vanilla. It has a slight hay flavor and a somewhat unpleasant bitterness as it warms.

M: Somewhat creamy, medium to light body, decent carbonation.

F: Gets somewhat bitter on the finish. Not really much of a hop flavor but bitter. A touch of grassy hops though. Some sticky sweetness and more sweet malt lager flavors lingering. A little hay flavor and wheat.

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4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a mug glass.

A: The beer is a deep orange/amber color, with a large off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick but spotty lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains honey, caramelized malts, some fruit and a bit of hops.

T: The taste starts out very sweet with flavors of honey, whiskey and fruit. Then some breadiness comes in from a hearty malt character. The hops presence is mild but complementary but brings a good balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down very easily, not too filling, decent kick, continuing Dead Guy Ale or Lager argument aside it's a good representation of style, although this is a case in my opinion where barrel aging does not really improve a good beer, this is version is still worth drinking for a long time.

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Photo of oberon
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A ale or maibock?Who knows,but I have always kinda liked the Dead Guy,oak aging it left me skeptical but I liked it.Poured into a .5 liter stein a hazed burnt orange with a craterous one finger head atop.Toasty caramel aromas with some of that vanilla tinged oak,a slight leafy hop presence shows thru as well.Flavors are toasty and warming,I picked up a hint of melon and leafy hop as well.I like the toasty warming finish,solid and not overdone.

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Photo of nickfl
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours with one and a half fingers of off-white foam on top of a perfectly clear, copper-amber body. The foam settles at a moderate pace and leaves average lace.

S - A fruity aroma of plum and red apple with some herbal notes of sage and cinnamon. Light whiskey notes of vanilla and wood.

T - Bready malt up front with some brown sugar and red apple. Spicy notes of cinnamon and clove in the middle as well as a bit of vanilla. The barrel notes really kick in during the finish with more vanilla and a woody whiskey note that blends well with both the burnt sugar and the spice. Lingering red apple and cinnamon as well as a moderate hop bitterness and burn sugar acidity.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - Interesting, the barrel aged character is much more prevalent in the flavor than it is in the aroma, though there is a definite uptick in complexity of the aroma, compared to regular Dead Guy, that would have to be due to the time spent in the barrel. The woody character in the flavor seems a little thin to me as compared to what I am used to from most barrel aged beers. This may be because the average barrel aged beer consists of a stronger base beer, or it may be due to the characteristics of the barrel. Either way, while this is an interesting experiment, it comes off a little flat and seems to need something more to make it really pop. In the end I don't know what to think about this one. On one hand it is lacking and weak, with flavors that need more force to back them up, but it is something more interesting and flavorful than the base beer, so I can't quite say that it was a waste of a barrel. I don't regret the opportunity to try this, but next time they might be better off using double dead guy when they have the itch to put something in a barrel.

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle into a goblet.

Pours a clear copper, with a finger of foamy off-white head. This retains with a smooth foaminess, which leaves back a cascade of froth that quickly slides down the sides of the glass but doesn’t leave a whole lot of lacing behind. The aroma is heavy with oak and vanilla that meld fairly well with the caramel sweetness here, while a touch of ripe citrus sits underneath.

The taste is nearly identical to the aroma; with more strong oak and vanilla character which sticks to the base sweetness of this while underlying citric hops add a touch of crispness to the profile. More of a burnt whiskey feel hangs on the edges and pull in the back where it leaves the finish dry and tannic feeling. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and prickly feeling on the tongue with a firm creaminess that then blows a bit on the palate. The only alcohol I’m getting here appears to be coming from the barrel.

This was OK but overall, the base Dead Guy just doesn’t seem burly enough to hold up to the strength of the barrel at times, with a lot of oak, vanilla and burnt character really starting to emerge as this warmed up. This wasn’t bad to me or anything but just seemed like it needed a little more balance between the base and barrel.

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3.03/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Apple red amber. Yellowed white head that dives straight into a halo, but hangs around once it gets there.

S - Bright brown sugar, notes of booze, drop of lemon, bready malt.

T - Strange profile. Ramps up almost instantly then trails off. Tingle of booze up front. Light-brown breads. Some of that lemon from the bouquet comes through. Finishes with rolling brown-sugar a mulling spice.

M - Thin body with a moderately boozy feel throughout the profile. Finishes pretty much dry.

D - Ok, but not great. The taste and booze didn't keep me coming back.

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John John Dead Guy Ale from Rogue Ales
Beer rating: 3.81 out of 5 with 577 ratings
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