Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale | Rogue Ales

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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek AleChatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Rogue Ales
Oregon, United States
rogue.com

Style: Dubbel

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Brewed using 8 ingredients: Wheat, Rogue Barley Farm Dare and Risk Malts, Rogue Hopyard Revolution Hops, Montmorency Cherries, Pacman and Belgian Yeast and Free Range Coastal Water.

15º PLATO
25 IBU
77 AA
75º Lovibond

Added by CampusCrew on 08-21-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
166
Reviews:
108
Avg:
3.37
pDev:
18.69%
 
 
Wants:
3
Gots:
9
For Trade:
0
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Ratings: 166 |  Reviews: 108
Photo of knoxtennessee
4.6/5  rDev +36.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Presented in a 22oz brown bottle. Pours a really nice red, great clarity, especially for being bottle conditioned. Nice persistent head lasts till the glass is empty. The aroma is nice and bready with a spicy "Belgian" character and noticable cherry notes. The yeasty Begian character is lovely, followed by a great bready malt, the entire soaked in sweet/tart cherry. The cherry flavor delightfully lingers into oblivion. Both the yeast and cherry open up in the glass after a few minutes as the beer goes from slightly sweet to dry. Over all it's a wonderful departure from all the same old pale/brown/porter/stout/ambers and manages to not taste just like every other Rogue.

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Photo of emmasdad
3.26/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Received this one as a Christmas gift, which is the only reason I am trying it, as I would not have bought it for myself. Pours a hazy reddish brown color with a finger of medium tan head. Aromas of tart cherries, brown sugar and yeast. On the palate, lightly tart and thin, with some decent cherry flavor. Not bad, but nothing special.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
4.3/5  rDev +27.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Deep dark cherry tinted brown body with a hint of tannish pink tinted head forming thick and dwindling even quicker thin speckled lacing surrounds the sides of my glass. Aroma has a tart cherry deep roasted malt combo going on. The tart cherries rule this brew, but especially in the nose. Strong tart cherry nose this doesn't smell like a typical dubbel, and after tasting it I would call it a weak sour ale. Flavor is full on tart cherries with touch of powdered spicy yeast noted and sliced bread. Malts don't bring out much sweetness that can be detected amongst the earthy sour yet sweet Montmorency cherries added. Finishes bone dry with hints of lactic acid, quite enjoyable even seems like there's a hint of oak barrel aging. I'm not sure if this one has that going for it but with the malts and the cherries I'm getting that vibe. Mouthfeel is medium bodied evenly carbonated nothing cloying on the palate, leaves me feeling good. I like the tart/sour drying finish between each sip, burps send alcohol and a fruit tartness up your nares that just makes me like the beer that much more. Overall drinkability I'm in cruise control, this one satisfies me in a couple ways cherry fruit/tartness/hints of bitter slightly spiced yeast components and gives me the vibe that it's been barrel aged whether or not it has I don't really care. I like the overall experience.

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Photo of Mora2000
3.68/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to barzigkin for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a reddish-amber color with a white head. The aroma is heavy on the toffee and cherries, but other than that, I don't get anything.

The flavor is more of the same. I get a lot of cherries, roasted malt and chocolate. Fairly straightforward, but still drinkable and enjoyable.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Glad I got to try this one.

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Photo of Gobzilla
2.37/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

poured an amber reddish color with ruby highlights that had a thin head and almost no lacing sticking to the glass. The aroma was not very appealing consisting of plastic notes and very little cherry character. It honeslty semmed like it was fermented in plastic vats and also had no belgian yeast notes. The taste was pretty big on plastic as well with some cherry chracter and slight tart qualities. The brew was medium in body with a fair amount of carbonation which had a sweet, mild fruity, and slight tart finish. It definitely was a disaster for the tasting. Yo bobby...sorry I brought this shit to your tasting.

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Photo of womencantsail
1.52/5  rDev -54.9%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

A: The pour is an amber color with a thin tan head.

S: The nose is not a good start to this beer. Smells like plastic and urinal cake. Mmm port-o-potty. Also some alcohol, puke, and sulfur. Man, what a winner.

T: A slight improvement on the flavor, but really bad, still. A bit of sweet caramel, cough syrup, a touch of sour cherries, and wood give this some redeeming flavors. But, there's still a lot of puke, alcohol, and plastic.

M: The body is medium with a low to medium carbonation.

D: Oh goodness. This was just awful. In no way would I want to drink this beer again.

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Photo of BretSikkink
3.48/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brown in color with some red and orange highlighting. Head is soft, but tight and leaves spotted lace. I've seen much better decoration, but no need to quibble with a solid burnished body like this. Nose is a bit too faint, with brown rice and a hint of phenolic clove. The yeast notes and a hint of cherry emerge as the glass heats up.

Decent mixing of the cherry notes into the dubbel maltiness. Not really sweet enough for the style, but that's mostly fine by me. However, the abrupt finish of the flavor isn't fine, and what is a fairly well-brewed beer is otherwise marred by such a faint output of taste sensation. The sour cherry notes are present, and liven up the fairly mundane and musty brown malts.

Solid appearance, mouthfeel, and really drinkability. However, part of drinkability for me is whether I want another one, and that is a resounding no thanks.

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Photo of SolomonGrundy
2.56/5  rDev -24%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Ha ha, accidentally saw the BA average rating for this ale before reviewing it myself. Too funny. Anyway...Pours a tasty-looking red, with hints of amber. Slightly cloudy, so that's a good sign. A nice, two fingers of soda-like head forms, breaches, and crashes back into the liquid. Some foam remains, but it is just a whisper...No real lacing to speak of. Aromas are very faint in this and a bit hard to pin. Some Belgian funky-funk. Some fruit, like apple and, obviously, cherry. Not much else though. A tad disappointing. Flavor is crisp, tart and vibrant. Right upfront you get a bit of leathery, wine-like tannin. The flavor is kind of a mish-mash, and I can't pick anything cleanly out. I get some grapefruit peel. I'm having a real difficult time with this ale. Like it's not quite finished. Lots of tartness, an off bitterness in the finish (i.e. the grapefuit peel), and not much else. No real malt or hops characteristics at all. Since they are touting their homegrown hops and malt, this is disappointing. At $5.49/bomber, it's near the expensive side of middling, also. I would say avoid this beer, but it is quite unique, although not sure what they are trying to accomplish with it.

What I like most: The nice pour and unique qualities.

What I like least: The lack of identity in the ale as a whole.

Verdict: Try a sip of someone's if you see it, but it's not very good.

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Photo of gordavidson
3.33/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- A slightly murky orange/ruby liquid with a few streams of rising carbonation. The light brown head is splotchy and thin. Looks rather nice when held to a light.

S- Brown sugar, cherries, light fruit, and flowers. Seems as though the Belgian yeast overpowered the Pacman yeast, which is nice for a different spin on things from Rogue. A little on the light side, but what I do smell is appealing.

T- Slightly tart cherries and a bit of malt sweetness... I struggle to get anything more out of it.

M- Tart. Became increasingly sour the more I drank. The carbonation level gave it an extra kick.

D- More of a sipper than the lower ABV should allow for. A unique take on the style, but not one of my favorite from Rogue or even from the GYO series.

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Photo of ADZA
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew pours a deep orange,copper hue with average carbonation that leaves behind a one finger head and sporadic sticky lacing,the aroma is mostly cherries which really dominates with some subtle underlying hints of oak and brown sugar mixed in there aswell,the mouthfeel is quite light for a Dubbel and is light bodied but the tastes all still come across nicely on the palette with sour cherry being the first flavour i encounter followed by really sweet malt,brown sugar,earthy hops and barley sugar and once again the sour cherry comes across quite predominant and dry at the finish,overall its a nice drop that is very sweet and is definately more malt driven than hop driven but in saying that you have to sample it for yourself to say whether your a fan or not as i myself prefer my hoppy brews but will quite happily try any of Rogue's new brews at least once.

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Photo of BDTyre
3.3/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Ehhh...so-so beer from Rouge. Dark, purple-ish colour with a white head. Sour cherry and sugary malt smell.

Sour cherry continues in the taste, and even though there is a bit of candi sugar and spice the sour cherry taste really dominates. It somewhat kills the dubbel character of this. Slightly sweet, malty finish.

This is a little too sour, and I don't think in this case the cherries pair well with the sweet-ish, slightly spiced character of a dubbel. Smooth, good carbonation but a fairly weird take on fruit beer.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another 22oz 'power to the people', DIYFS from Farmer Rogue.

This beer pours a murky orange-tinted brown, with some anemic floaties, and one finger of foamy off-white head, which leaves some very sparse lace around the glass as it falls away. It smells of ashy, biscuity grain, a slight acidic fruitiness, and earthy hops. The taste is somewhat yeasty, sugary, boozy dubbel-dabbling, and sour cherry acid reflux. A bit harsh a first, but you get used to it. The carbonation is moderate, the body medium-light, tangy, and smooth as that could be. It finishes tartly fruity, with only a small underlying grain maltiness holding up the beer side of things.

A decent enough venture, done well before, albeit leagues away in Belgium; however, here it just seems forced, unfortunately off-putting, and really just a one-off forgettable semi-indulgence.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
3.76/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Aroma is fairly strong and yeasty with fruity and floral underpinnings. It pours an appetizing semi-translucent mahogany brown with a decent fine-bubbled light beige head that leaves some nice lacing. Flavor is quite fruity, mainly apple and pear, but more sour than sweet, with a malty undertone and a hint of caramel. Texture is silky smooth and fizzy enough to let you know this is beer.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.62/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle - $5.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a murky, admittedly dirty-looking, dark brown body with a medium-sized,

Smell: Sweetish, tart-accented aroma of undertoasted dark bread soaked with a small portion of cherry cordial and sweetened right up with a pinch of dark brown sugar and a touch of caramel. Light clove note. Subtle earthiness underneath. I found the nose to be a bit more well-rounded and pleasing than the taste.

Taste: Initial dark breadiness hinting at thinly sliced pumpernickel given a very light dusting of unsweetened chocolate powder and brown sugar. Fruity taste of cherries, including their tart cherry skins, mingles with the modest sweetness and, for a quick moment, reminds me of a drop or two of that red sweet-n-sour sauce you get down at the local Chinese restaurant joint. Small amount of phenolic spiciness and a light bitterness. Crackle of acidity. As it warms, some caramel comes out though, all in all, there's not that much to it, really. Luden's cherry cough drops on the drying finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-plus carbonation.

Drinkability: Soundly satisfactory. Considering the series, it's no Dirtoir. Overall, it's pretty OK for a fruit-infused Belgian-y brew.

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Photo of armock
3.16/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured a mahogany color with a tan head that leaves lacing behind

S - Is of sweet malt Belgian yeast with some cherries

T - Like the nose but not as good sweet malt Belgian yeast spices with light cherry

M - This beer has a watery body with medium carbonation to it

D - This isn't really bad it just falls a little short for what it could be from what the bottle says it is its still a decent beer but nothing I'll be running out to get again

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Photo of lordofthewiens
3.88/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

In a goblet the beer was a garnet color with a thin tan head.
Chocolate aroma, alcohol, and a little bit of cherry.
It tasted like one of those cherry candies, where there's a cherry inside of a chocolate with some kind of sweet liquer, just in a more understated manner.
Despite the sweet taste, I thought this was on the dry side.
Nice beer.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

"Don't taunt the alligator until after you've crossed the creek."

--anonymous

Caramel brown with generous orange accents and a good looking crown of golden brown sugar colored foam. Although the head doesn't possess the usual Rogue excellence, it looks good enough and is doing a more than acceptable job festooning the glass.

The beer smells decently dubbel-like, so points for that. Brown malt and clove spicy yeast occupy the driver's seat, relegating the Montmorency cherries to the back seat. Given this brewery's extremely short and rather unimpressive track record with Belgian-style beer, the nose is a pleasant surprise.

The dubbel and the sour cherries share palate duty 50:50. Neither one impresses on an individual basis, but they work well together if you like this sort of thing. The flavor is oddly muted, however, and isn't intensifying much with warming. Looks like the taste score will be rounded down rather than up.

Specifics flavors include brown bread, an overripe apple and sour cherry fruitiness, and less clove than expected after the sniff test. Rogue should bump the ABV a little, add more malt, use a more estery yeast strain, and jettison the cherries. In other words, they should have concentrated on brewing a kick-ass dubbel... period.

No complaints about the mouthfeel. It's big enough, the bubbles are well-incorporated, and it develops a lightly creamy smoothness over time. Not outstanding for these guys, but enjoyable all the same.

Even though the scores are similar to those for Wet Hop Ale and OREgasmic Ale, Creek Ale is my second favorite of the five offerings in the Chatoe Rogue First Growth Series, behind only Dirtoir Black Lager. Not a bad effort at all, but don't expect the moon and stars if you're a Belgian (and Belgian-style) ale aficionado.

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Photo of vkv822
3.97/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into chalice.

Pours a cloudy deep mahoganny brown with red hues and light tan heads.

The aroma is of sweet malts, with a mixture of Belgian yeast as well. I am really enjoying that Rogue has finally incorporated another yeast strain. I am picking up faint notes of cherry, though I might not have picked it out if I didn't know to look for it.

The cherries come through in the flavor a bit more than in the aroma with a light tartness. There are notes of biscuit and caramel malts as well. Again I am really enjoying the use of Belgian yeast.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with subtle yet enjoyable carbonation.

I enjoyed this beer quite a bit and am glad to see Rogue mixing up their portfolio a bit. Hope to see some more expansion.

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Photo of nickfl
3.85/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours with one finger of light brown foam on top of a hazy, dark brown body. The foam settles rapidly and leaves only minor lace.

S - Toasty brown malt aromas with a little bit of caramel. Some light fruit juice notes and spicy hops in the background.

T - Creamy malt notes with some light toffee and caramel. The cherry notes come out in the middle with a lightly sweet fruit character that works well with the malt. The fruit character continues through the finish with sweet caramel and a bit of brown sugar.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - This is not a particularly complex or interesting beer, but for some reason it is extremely drinkable. Something about the way that the light cherry flavor interacts with the caramel and toffee malt flavors makes the beer extremely quaffable.

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Photo of BMoney575
3.17/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Sampled on 11-10-10

Pours a completely cloudy light red color, with only a thin white ring for a head. Lacing is that same ring, and just lags begind the surface.

Smell is nicely malty, aromas of clove dominate. The hops come in adding a fruity edge, with banana in the finish. Enjoyable.

Taste is almost sour, with tons of the clove that was evident in the smell. Very thin, with almost a smoky quality. The finish is tart, fruity cherry for a second, followed by more smokey bitterness in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is very thin and watery, and does nothing to enhance the thin flavors.

Drinkability suffers greatly from the taste and mouthfeel.

Overall, started promising, but didn't deliver.

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Photo of dborginis
3.86/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a slightly turbid brown, doesn't have much for a pleasant smell...nothing really stands out, maybe metallic.

This makes for a very drinkable beer. Didn't realize it was supposed to be a dubbel until I checked here. Sans the cherries, my recently homebrewed dubbel is very similar (mines a little hoppier!). Belgian sweetness and solvent flavor hits first, then a bit of roasted malt and then the cherry. The cherry gives a little bit of sour that really refreshes. The cherry really sticks in the mouth too.

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Photo of philbertk
2.89/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale--Ale brewed with cherries--Dare & Risk Malts--Grow The Revolution--GYO--2010 22 oz. Bottle. 5.78% ABV. 25 IBU's. (3.5 / 5.0) Fruit Ale--Cherry. Foamy lacy dense light tan head. Tight sediment dust. Cloudy dirty amber brown color. Mild sour cherry Farmhouse ester light hop malt front. Mild sweet cloying chalky subtle cocoa brown ale sour cherry body. Dry mild sour citrus clean wild end. Belgianesque Rogue Kriek. Sampled & Purchased 11/5/2010 for $6.49 at Seattle QFC in Ballard. Another overpriced Rogue!!

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Photo of Xul
3.57/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a murky reddish brown, capped by a thin layer of pale beige head with almost no retention.

S: Sweet bready malts, some wheat, very lightly tart cherries, some raisins and plums and Belgian yeastiness.

T: Sweet malts with just a touch of earthy hops, followed by dark fruits - plums mostly. Some cherry character comes in on the backend but it's rather subdued.

M: Medium to full bodied with light, creamy carbonation.

D: Easy drinking, not a particularly great beer but rather solid.

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Photo of a74gent
2.65/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This isn't good. They managed to capture the essence of bad, rotten cherry flavor. I've tasted belgian lambics and lots of other styles with beautiful use of cherries. This is not one of those. I had looked forward to this one, but, please, this is a joke.

Becomes marginally better as it approaches room temperature, but still I don't get anything good from this one. The appearance and smell might be close to average, but everything else is below average.

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Photo of Reidrover
3.53/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz from "Habits" S.Salem. Dirty, murky brown beer small tan head tops it. The aroma is certainlly quite different from most Rogue beers, the "Belgian" yeast makes a strong statement. Taste is like the aroma with the usual belgian hints to the ore, its actually hard to find much cherry until you swish it over the tongue,, then it appears and sticks around at the back of the taste..Actually quite nice really. Palate is OK..kinda weak but not too bad. Overall a nice beer...i could manage just one though.

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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale from Rogue Ales
3.37 out of 5 based on 166 ratings.
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