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Furthermore Beer
Wisconsin, United States

Style: Belgian IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by Golden2wenty1 on 01-11-2008

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Photo of pat61
4.25/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours hazy amber under a 2” persistent white foam collar that grips the side of the glass providing thick lines of lace.
S: Bread, light fruit, scented with medium low grassy, minty citrus hop fragrance
T: Light fruit with rich malts balanced by citrus rind hop bitterness. Cola to Dr. Pepper flavors in the background. Slightly sweet but dries on the finish. Not a lot of linger.
F: medium body and carbonation
O: A medium impact beer with above average complexity.

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Photo of Lemke10
4/5  rDev +4.2%

This pours a cloudy amber color with a slight head and some floaties. The aroma is malty with hints of sweet figs. The taste is sweet, malty with a bit of warming booze. An interesting take on an American Strong Ale as it’s kind of thin for the style but the sweetness and booze is there.

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Photo of timfc
2.07/5  rDev -46.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

There is nothing wrong with this beer... But it's not very Belgian.

It's a pretty traditional barley wine and it's a fine enough barley wine, it's middle of the road and quite drinkable as a barley wine.

There is a bit of a hop after taste, but the hops don't come out clean in terms of any particular flavor profile.

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Photo of nickapalooza86
4/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deeo amber with a half finger of a off white head, can not see a thing through it.

Smell is earthy hops, caramel, toffee, deep fruits and a hint of bubblegum.

Taste is piney, earthy and minty in the hop area. Then comes a belgian like barleywine flavor with dark fruits and yeasty esters playing off each other.

Mouthfeel is medium with biting carbonation.

I am not sure what style this is, it is not a belgian IPA that is for sure, but looking at the other styles I guess that is the closest style to what is in the bottle.

This is one unique beer that is for sure, a whole lot going on. Give it a shot, but make sure to have an open mind when going into it.

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Photo of TheSSG
3.35/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a HUGE head that is thick and resiny, but not all too persistent. An interesting aroma; floral hops and malt, and an almost....bubblegum note in the background. A soft combination of pine, flowers, and bubblegum. Amber-straw color. Starts off...weird. It's like a warm boozey, bitter flavor, with a flash of floral hops, that moves into an even more bitter pine-grapefruit flavor, as the booziness hits. The finish retains that citrus rind hop bitterness, but the malt really starts to come through a little more, cutting the bitterness and letting a more citrusy pine hop flavor waft.

This is very interesting. It's not my favorite, but it's not terrible. I applaud trying to blend so many styles, but it feels mostly like a mix of hops. I do appreciate how I get floral hops, pine hops, and grapefruit notes. But, the overall bitterness is a bit too unpleasant to allow me to really enjoy these hops. I was expecting to see more in the way of malt/yeast excitement.

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Photo of woosterbill
4.05/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a Duvel tulip. This one's at least a year old at this point.

A: Hazy reddish-amber body with a generous inch of creamy off-white head. Good retention, sticky lace. Solid.

S: Rich and intense mix of fruity yeast and sweet, complex maltiness. Candied apricot, caramel apple, and pure toffee. Quite nice.

T: Follows the nose - Belgian Pale Ale meets English Barleywine. Rich toffee malts and fruity esters. Long, bittersweet finish. Tasty.

M: Medium body, lively carbonation. Creamy and rich.

O: Really interesting, tasty brew. A pleasant surprise from the cellar.


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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.8/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

It doesn't really matter so much to me anymore, but I feel compelled to comment about it this time: the color of this one is what I consider unusual for the style. Perfectly clear and nearly brown. Nose is the typical Belgian tone with some spice from hops to it. Flavor is along those same lines: standard Belgian fare. An minimal Earthy tone gives way to a spicy and slightly hot character that stays constant. Mild tang. This is a good Belgian ale. No severe complexity, but there is an excellent and consistent delivery of flavor.

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Photo of Cylinsier
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz.

Pours a deep hazy amber orange with two inches off fluffy off-white head. Good retention.

Apples, buttered bread, bananas, cloves, brown sugar and cinnamon in the nose.

Tastes of spiced apples and molasses over slightly dry hop bitterness and oak notes.

Full body with mild tingly carbonation on the tongue. Some boozey warmth.

Really nice BIPA, kind of quad-like but with a nice tinge of hoppiness. Goes down easy enough for its strength. Would seek this out again.

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Photo of mactrail
4.1/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Really rich and tangy concoction. I like the mix of flavors and hops. It works out to a malty brew with a nice dose of hops. Beautiful golden amber in the glass. Sudsy with a fine carbonation.

There is a resiny flavor that lurks around the edges of the flowery hops. The complexity and weight of the malt is what makes this so good. Well balanced with a serious amount of hops, but restrained biterness. Excellent mouthfeel with the tangy suds and an aromatic burst in every sip. To my taste, it's what an IPA should be.

From the 12 oz bottle purchased at Food and Friends in Philadelphia.

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Photo of Zachtheporter
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass.
A- Deep Golden/ Light Amber nearly brown. Has a thin head for the style that pretty much amounts to a lacing over the top of the beer . Slightly hazey with ample light penetration.
S-The smell is fruity and almost smells somewhat of berries. There is a thick Alcholic esteryness to it at the end. Starts off overall sweet. Slight hint of sweet Belgian yeast. Somewhat of a bubblegum scent . Has a lighter scent overall.

T- Strong tasting. Starts off with a bit of a sweetness to it with a hint of spice. Ends with a strong alcoholic bitterness coupled with a slight spicy almost herb-crusted breadyness. Taste’s a bit like candy/bubblegum mid taste. Has a unique bitterness to it that doesn’t necessarily taste like the bitterness from hops. It is more of a defined almost earthy bitterness that is masked well by the sweetness and alcohol taste. Almost a honey like flavor to the start of the beer. Has a very nice and unique hop bite to it.

M- Heavy feeling with medium carbonation. Crisp yet very lingering.

O- A very interesting beer. The alcoholic bitterness that comes with the after taste is somewhat off-putting. Definitely not for me, but I am glad that I tried it. Very unique for it’s style, and it defiantly packs quite a punch. Very hoppy for the style and defiantly non traditional. For what they call a TRIPLE PALE on the site, it’s defiantly weak , but still. I admire furthermore for their creativity in this beer, while not necessarily my favorite, they definitely are on to something here. Definitely something to try if you’re a hop head.

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Photo of troysoy2
4.05/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Wow, I wasn't planning on reviewing this, but after simply smelling it, I just had to. Poured into a pint glass, I got a nice 2 fingers of billowing off-white head, very fine and fluffy. Orange-amber body, with a bit of cloudiness to it. Great retention, and tons of thickly coated lacing.

The smell is really just plain interesting. Sour cherry melds with toffee and licorice. Pale malt is nicely represented. A number of spices jump out as well. A little funky, but nicely reeled in. The Belgian comes out over the American and British influences on the nose.

Malty goodness. The taste is much like the nose, but leaning slightly more towards the English side. Caramel dominates, but is wedded with a quirky belgian fruitiness. The hops are subdued, and give this beer a nice, spicy, dry finish. There is also a nice, juicy citrus to the body of the taste. The mouthfeel is medium-light, and if anything, it's just a tad too carbonated. A little more stickiness would go well with the caramel profile.

Not sure if I'd call this a Belgian IPA, but whatever it is, it's a lot of fun. Quite the recipe. I'm impressed.

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Photo of JackieTH
4.01/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Fiery orange, hazy with suspended particulates. Good inch of foam that leaves rings of lacing. Smell is muted oranges, banana, caramel, and slightly nutty. Taste is citrus and orange pith hop, nice moderate bitterness which fades, transitioning into banana, spice- cloves, nutty, caramel malt. Body is medium. Mouthfeel is a bit light but holds together. Strong carbonation plays well with the hop bitterness. Finish is mildly bitter, clean. No sweetness. It grows on me as I work through this pour. Hop bitterness is lingering and increases with each sip. Nice interplay of hop bitterness and the English, American and Belgian elements.

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Photo of yamar68
3.74/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a bright amber gold with a half finger of slightly off white head. Lacing is a bit lacking. One of the most complex smelling pales I’ve experienced. Sweet cereal, hay, nice yeast presence. The belgian really goes a long way in this beer. Nice, soft bitterness and that same yeast carries through in the taste. Feel is spot on for the style, nothing too exciting. Overall, an interesting concept, pretty well executed.

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Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Belgian IPA - I do not know, howoever the facts I do have: I bought this at Riley's in Madison based on recommendations by staff. I had no idea what I was drinking when I opened it, it smelled like a yeasty Belgian, and tasting akin to an old ale/American strong. Dark brown body with tremendous spider lacing. Very smooth, understated hops and great malting. I should have bought more bottles!

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Photo of ProudBeerSnob
3.7/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into tulip glass from bottle. Big airy head looks very nice, but very little lacing.  A bit dark for the style, more amber in color

Fruity Belgian nose a bit muted, But still appropriate for the style

Belgian yeast comes through here, a bit of banana and clove action here a bit too sweet in the finish. Where are the hops?

Not a bad beer, but more of a Belgian style ale than a Belgian IPA.

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Photo of bsp77
2.83/5  rDev -26.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Chalice.

Appearance: Cloudy, dull orange that turns fiery in the light. Massive foamy head with loads of lacing.

Smell: Dry, musty and earthy, with clove, banana and black pepper.

Taste: Strange upfront sweetness with caramel, raisins and banana. The finish is a little peppery and spicy, but also has a massive metallic flavor. So it goes from a sickly sweetness to licking a penny. Not good.

Feel: Moderate carbonation, medium body with a very chalky finish.

Overall: First of all this is not a Belgian IPA. But why do I care, because I will never drink this again. I may try again in case I had a bad bottle, but there is no reason that it should have been bad.

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Photo of Knapp85
2.98/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew poured out as an interesting copperish amber color, the head vanished quick. The lacing is non-existent. The smell is of Belgian yeast, and some floral hops going on. The taste to me seemed a little strange, not sure if the blend of things going on here really goes that well together. The mouthfeel Is bubbly and leaves a bite on tongue. It's really wasn't that great to me, I'd probably pass on this one in the future.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.45/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of BeerFMAndy. Served in a Russian River TION goblet.

Pours a cloudy dark copper color with a small white head that quickly fades into a thin collar and leaves only a spot or two of lacing behind. The nose brings forward some light caramel malt plus a bit of pepper and earth. Mild floral character and a bit of extra spice. The flavor really adds in the Belgian yeast factor, though there is little in the way of hops. Some floral and herbal hops, though they are not prominent. Bready malt in the background. Medium body and a finish that is heavy on the booze. Not a bad take on the style, but needs more hops and the alcohol has to mellow out a bit.

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Photo of IronCitySteve
3.88/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy orangish amber color with a small off white foam head with good retention. There is some spotty lacing.

S: A small amount of citrus hops is most noticeable. There are also some mild caramel, brown sugar and alcohol.

T: Starts off with a mild citrus hop taste that is immediately followed up by a nice candied brown sugar taste. The middle and back end produces more of the same. A lot of sweet sugar, caramel and bread with a mild undertone of citrus and fruit.

M: A nice medium bodied beer leaves a nice sweet malt taste on the palate.

O: A nice overall brew. Definitely worth trying.

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Photo of uwmgdman
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This ale pours a slightly hazy copper-orange color with a moderate white head. The aroma is very Belgian--phenolic and spicy with some bready, sweet malt. The flavor is highly spicy and peppery with moderate bittersweet, doughy malt and a bit of hops shine through at the swallow....a bit floral and spicy. The body is moderate and carbonation medium. Overall this triple mash-up certainly is dominated by the Belgian component, but I find it quite enjoyable.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.22/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Furthermore MAKEWEIGHT -

It's an interesting concept, but how well do the styles all work out in the mix?

The Belgian component is the most obvious, being yeast, and its clove character is quite obvious in the nose. Its phenols carry through into the flavor as well, and there's a bit of 'burnt-plastic' and spiciness to it as well.

The English component, to me, is the second most obvious. The body is a hazy deep amber with golden highlights beneath a creamy head of off-white that leaves short but solid walls of lace around the glass. Clearly there's a little bit of caramel malt in there, which would make it more English than American - but not necessarily more Belgian than American. Regardless of how you resolve (or not resolve) that, the malt's a bit caramelish and bready. But I also find what I'd consider to be English hops in here... floral, slightly leafy, and a touch grassy - and even a bit slightly mettalic or mineralish. I'm thinking East Kent Goldings and Fuggles.

What about the American side? I'm guessing there are some American hops to it, but I think they're over-ridden by the Belgian yeast. I did find some fruitiness (fresh cut red delicious apple, pear, cherry, red berry, and perhaps a hint of pineapple and citrus), and that could be coming from some Amarillo or another hop (...or from the Belgian yeast... ?), but I don't clearly find them. So, noting that the yeast component is clearly not American, and the malt component is clearly not American, and the hops don't appear to be distinctly American - I think the U.S. has been short-changed! Even the bitterness level seems a touch low to be American.

But let's go back to the malt. It's English in nature, but there's far more going on than that. It's too heavy to be English pale - perhaps an old ale or a barleywine, but not a pale ale. And it's too sugary as well. That leaves us with just some English hops in an otherwise Belgian-style pale ale. But even that doesn't seem to fit. It's just too big and malty. The name is appropriate (Makeweight), because it's a weighty beer.

So what is it? Ahhh, it's Belgian, who cares? Belgians don't really categorize their beers like we do (or at least they didn't until recently). "Belgian IPA" works for me. But what about the beer? Despite its kind of odd-ball premise of throwing together three different recipes, it somehow works. It's rich and spicy, and sweet and phenolic, and hoppy and mineralish. The alcohol is present, but it never really steps forward. There's enough bitterness to balance it, and it finishes dry with some residual yeast spiciness and dull phenols.

Overall, it's worthy endeavor.

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Photo of woodychandler
3.67/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Leave it to us Americans to inspire a new style and to Aran Madden, a Pittsburgh guy, to bring us one iteration of it.

From the label: "An Ecumenical Mash-Up"; "A Single-Batch Conflagration of English, American and Belgian-Style Pales".

My pour resulted in two fingers' worth of tawny head with good retention. Color was an oh-so-slightly hazy deep amber. Nose was a riot of grassy hops, yeasty mustiness, and caramel malts. Yoi! Mouthfeel was medium with an intial sweetness, like a mixture of honey and carmel, then followed by a very yeasty mustiness, finishing with just a kiss of the hops. Sorry, Schlitz. Finish was almost mead-like with its dry honey flavor that lingered well after the swallow. Wild, but just one at a time, thank you very much.

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Photo of OWSLEY069
3.53/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazy orange-ish to copper color with an off white head. In the aroma, green apple fruitiness and candy sugar. In the taste, green apple, candy sugar, and a small dry alcohol. An alcohol bite and medium bodied mouthfeel, with a semi dry green apple in the aftertaste. Almost a sour, nice fruit presence, decent.

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Photo of Miketwolf21
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First off, this beer is best if you let it age for a few months, the hops add to the complexity as they fall to the background. But if you like the unique taste of citrus hops in a dubbel then try it fresh. I am really digging the idea of mixing yeasts.
S: Smells slightly of lemony/grapefruity hops that are dominated by the smell of a sweet belgian dubbel.
T: You are welcomed with mostly a delicious belgian dubbel. Seriously, malt background is great stuff. The hops hit you midway through the pallet and complicate things in not a bad way. These hops tend to make it more refreshing and less sweet tasting. I think the hops are a touch too much fresh, but after six months- its perfect.
M- Great. Better than most american belgian beers. Its medium bodied.
Furthermore is one of my favorites. Creative flavors that are well constructed and articulated. Go out and buy a six pack. If you don't like it know, age it and you will be surprised.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.35/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy dark amber, darker than I was expecting. A blend of three beers apparantly, the yeast interaction perhaps making it a few shades darker? Nevertheless, a nice looking beer. Fruity in the nose, some floral hops and belgian yeast fruityness. The flavor of this beer caught me off guard. Lots of belgian flavor, candied date and fig right off the back, dark fruits and light earthy hop bitterness. Pretty damn tasty. Medium bodied feel, smooth and creamy. Overall a very impressive beer from Furthermore.

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