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Furthermore Beer
Wisconsin, United States

Style: Belgian IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

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Photo of PSUDREW
4.09/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a nice amber color with a white foam head that does not last
S: honey, biscuits, wildflower, and sweet malts, and hints of citrus
T: such a huge blast of sweet upfront. hints of bubblegum, but the citrus and honey flavor is there and biscuit malt at the end. very interesting combo, as the standard pale ale hop presence at the end, and the crazy Belgian malt up front.
M: sturdy, but not heavy
D: pretty high

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Photo of goblue3509
3.33/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a copperish color with a slight skim of off white color. The head gives way to a sticky like gob on the glass but not real lacing. The aroma is of belgian yeast and belgian candy sugars, with hints of a floral hop and a boozy finish. The taste is of belgian yeast and belgian candy sugars along with a boozy touch. There isn't really much of a hop presence, and it could stand to be slightly more balanced. The mouthfeel is slightly carbonated and slightly oily and slick. The drinkability is okay, after a couple the flaws could be more pronouced, but in small doses it is very enjoyable.

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Photo of Lukafer
3.48/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to MilwaukeeCrusher for this!

Pours a medium-dark amber with 1 finger of tan head.  Smells are sugar, yeast, molasses and booze.  Tastes are yeast at the front, sweet caramel, burnt sugar, and a slightly drying boozy finish.  Mouthfeel is good and sticky.  Drinkability is kind of low, I think one of these is enough for me in one sitting. Interesting beer, but not one I would seek out.

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Photo of rfgetz
3.55/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazed copper color, thin bubbly head, minimal retenion and lacing. Scent is a huge whiff of belgian yeast, belgian candy sugar and carmel and faint floral hops with a boozy note. Taste brings all the qualities of scent but each of them big and bold, making the beer come across as unfocused and muddled... yeasty, malty, sugary and hopy all at the same time with some notes of boozyness. Medium bodied, despite the look with acive bubbles, decent lighter carbonation. A beer that tries to have multiple bold flavors and comes across as somewhat cloying with each.

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Photo of DrDemento456
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Poured into my Newcastle pub glass. Produced a really dark brown with orange tone in color and a nice pillow of fluffy head. Looks nice.

S - Ow god! Extreme Belgium yeast in the nose! It may have been sitting on the shelf too long since all I smell is yeasty, yeasty, yeast.

T - eww straight up! When I read the label I thought that a clash between an American, English, and Belgium ale was a bad idea but now I can taste it. Yeast everywhere and whats worse is the ABV is really noticeable so the brew made me gag if not influence me to vomit.

M - Heavy and cloying. Like drinking Gran Met on steroids.

D - Well damn it I have like five more of these! And whats worse is that it probably made the variety box so expensive was because of this crappy beer. Maybe I can give them to people I hate or friends that like yeast more than me. Pass!

Edit: tastes really more like a triple than a Belgium IPA. Really no hops at all in the nose or taste. Way to go Furthermore!

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Photo of errantnight
3.63/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A fine beer, if not really a Belgian IPA. Thanks, mn6, for a few of these extras. I'm reviewing the first one, here, look forward to drinking the next couple.

This beer is a lovely, faintly hazed amber with copper highlights, superior retention and solid lacing.

Despite the blend of yeasts, two things stick out on the nose, Belgian esters and Belgian candy sugar. There is a note of hops just at the finish, faintly floral and a touch earthy.

On the palate this is a superbly textured beer. Round and full with a smooth, lingering sweetness. The alcohol doesn't present itself, but it shows up in the body. This reminds me of Dogfish Head in this regard, dried out to not be unbearably sweet, but lots of sugar remain the leave for a full, and still distinctly sweet beer. There's not quite the malt complexity to call this a dubbel, but it trends that way. Solid hoppy bitter to the finish before the sweetness takes over.

I might be dinging it a bit much on flavor, there toffee and dried fruit notes present themselves solidly and cleanly, if not with exceeding complexity.

Overall, seems like an excellent evening tipple to warm the soul. And for our relatively cool summer here in LA, I know I've got a couple more evenings of enjoyment in place thanks to this brew.

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Photo of Katahdin
3.86/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured a nice medium brown color almost like a toffee color. Luscious head that held together nicely in the glass. Smell is interesting, almost a bitterness like citrus smell but none of that came through in the taste. Definite hints of caramel and roasted malts in the flavor and the hint of roasted malt lingers a bit on the palate along with a candied sugar taste. Goes down OK, a good session beer.

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Photo of kenito799
3.85/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Duvel glass.

This darkish reddish amber brew raises just a bit of a head which fades to a ring, spots of lace trickle down the sides of the glass.

The aroma is heavy malty with definite Belgian bubble gum notes. Fruity cooked apples and pears.

The flavor is definitely a mash-up, some nice hoppy bitterness holding up the American perspective with candi sugar maltiness. Not sure if there is anything English about this. Overall quite a good beer, but it is heavy and creamy, if that is what you are in the mood for great, but the high alcohol and heaviness make it tough to consider drinking more than one of these.

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Photo of philbe311
3.99/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - A dense two fingers of tightly packed creamy slightly off white foam with a slightly rocky top... Excellent retention... A beautiful rusted bronze color with an ever so faint reddish hue... Filled with moderate paced carbonation that rises throughout...

S - Grassy notes... Lemon zest... Subtle yeast... Some European hops... Very lite caramel... There's a lot of potential in the nose, but unfortunately everything is too understated and subdued...

T - Candied sugars... A minor yeasty component... Muted caramel and toffee... Perhaps even a hint of rye... Some bitter hops... The flavors blend well and work together...

M - Much richer and denser than your average Belgian IPA... Creamy... Lush... On the fuller side of medium bodied... A subtle tinge of carbonation... Slightly dry finish and an even slighter lingering bitterness...

D - A very solid offering and welcome introduction to Furthermore... Quite enjoyable, though it tends to stray from the guidelines for the style... I would gladly welcome again and even welcome a six pack in the fridge...

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Photo of Slatetank
3.65/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to tenderbranson69 for sharing this -poured chilled in a tulip pint

A - a lightly hazed medium brown - caramel color/tea like color w/ rocky light cream which clings like ribbons of lace. The bead is fine and so is retention

S - A smell of sweet malt and candy sugar is pretty prominent with light toasted malt and mild yeast ester. There is a minimal amount of hops and spice in the nose

M - the feel is creamy up front w/ sweetness in moderate range w/ mild carbonation and moderately full body w/ subtle spice making the sweetness come into balance in the middle w/ dry malty finish

T - The flavor has a caramel malt and light candy sugar taste w/ smooth yeast backing it and hop spice restrained yet there in the taste w/ mild fruitiness and gentle vanilla notes from malt and sugar continuing form mid to finish w/ mild creaminess in the flavor

D - The drinkablity is pretty good for this beer, not exactly sure what to expect given the description, but for what it is it isn't bad at all. I could probably handle having a few over time -like a dubbel with more hops and toasty malt. Not something to go out of your way for but worth trying for sure

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4/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle to chalice. No date on the bottle (nor indication of the ABV). But someone at Furthermore is a crafty wordsmith. The bottle says "An ecumenical mash-up" meaning in it's simplified sense 'a worldwide brew.' An appropriate description for an ambitious creation combining European malts with hops from England and American plus yeast from Belgium, England and the states.

A: Wow. This brew is much darker than expected. The body is a black walnut color that takes on a copper tone when backlit. The head is tan, creamy and sudsy at the same time, and 2 fingers high. It quickly disappears and leaves spare to no lacing. A sudsy film and collar hold on till the very end.

S & T: Partly roasted, partly toasted. Heavy malts of caramel, grain plus dark and sweet bread. Incredibly interesting malt bill. The hops are very much subdued, providing light herbal, grassy notes in the background. The yeast qualities are earthy and leathery and of average intensity.

M: Medium body, creamy smooth with an average but pleasant level of carbonation.

D: I believe this beer was conceived as a Tripel Pale Ale to confuse the hell out of people. I'm not even sure what I would call it and I am definitely not reviewing to style here. The lack of hop prominence strips the "I" out of IPA. It certainly has Belgian qualities from the yeast. But it's too dark to be a Belgian Pale Ale. I give up and it doesn't even matter. This is one unique brew, definitely worth the experience.

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Photo of ChopperSmith
3.95/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a chilled standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a nice clear medium brown with amber tints. Nice two finger tan foamy head with good retention and big sticky lacing on the sides as it fades to a frothy cap. Nice!

Smell: Sweet fruity Belgian yeast phenols of green apples, pear and some lemon. Some nice sweet floral hops underneath. Very nice!

Taste: Wow. Very nice combination of citrus hops and sweet Belgian yeast flavors. I don't think I've ever tasted another beer quite like this one. It's a hybrid between an India Pale Ale and a Belgian style ale, and since I like both, I really enjoy this beer. Another winner from the Furthermore brewery.

Mouth Feel: Medium to low carbonation & nice balance. I would have liked a little more carbonation, but it's not bad either.

Drinkability: A very good session beer for me, since I love the hybrid of styles. Has a good sweet Belgian-like flavor, but with a Pale Ale hoppiness to the finish. I will be getting more of this beer...after I finish this six pack off over the next day or two. Great stuff!

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Photo of robbyc1
4.37/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Into my Sam Adams glass, nice 1+inch head, off white, clear light brown look.

Spicy yeast like belgian combined with orange/lemon hops, very nice. Fresh smell as well.

All kinds of malty hoppy goodness here. Most of all it combines well, very tasty. Bready malt, deep across the palate, with a slightly dry finish telling you to drink more. This is a keeper. Big flavor is no surprise from these guys, and given the abv I expected a good beer. Combination of English, American, and Belgian pales, maltier than some hop heads would like, but fits my style well.

Bold body, well rounded. Nice drinker as well, keep em coming Furthermore.

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Photo of tconboy
3.83/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark burnt caramel amber with a moderate head that recedes to a moderate (yet lively!) film. The bottle indicates that this is a single-batch conflagration of english, american, and belgian style pales - and this baby looks the part! The coloring is multi-dimensional and multi-layered. Smells of burnt molasses caramel apple fruit. Taste is malty bourbon roasted molasses nut. Moderate, crisp mouthfeel with medium carbonation. But oh! it burns! I wonder what the ABV is on this sucker? 8.5%?! Of course this is evident, but not overwhelmingly so. Is this sessionable? A stretch, but I do thoroughly enjoy where we are going with this! A valiant attempt at greatness, I appreciate such creativeness! I will try additional products from this brewery (despite being a product of the evil Sconnies)

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Photo of meatyard
3.53/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, nicely carbonated, dark copper color with a thick, fluffy, 2-finger, off-white head that leaves a bit of sparse lace.
The smell is yeasty, sweet and strong malt aroma.
The taste is much the same as the smell with some mild bitterness at the end.
Mouthfeel is medium to thin and well carbonated.
Drinkability is limited to one for me. There are better BPAs out there but this is not bad and kind of curious in what it offers.

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Photo of OneDropSoup
3.95/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Happy & surprised to see something from my Wants list show up locally.

Poured into a stemmed tulip: dark copper body with red-orange highlights, barely transparent. finger of head drops to a collar & film. Not pale by any stretch.

Smell dominated by spicy yeast notes & pepper. Earthy, grassy, I'd call it "terrestrial." Subtle toasted smell, like pie crust. Some lemon shows up later.

Very complex. Starts with a bitterness that reminds me more of field greens than hops. Some peppery, spicy notes, slight doughy yeast sweetness. Some grapefruit & lemon (both pulp & zest) toward the end & in the aftertaste. Finishes very dry. As it warms, a nice round caramel character comes into play.

Full-bodied, a little sharp from alcohol, & carbonation gives it some kick.

I can't say I loved this for what it is, but I found the complex & novel nature of it very engaging. Balance of enjoyable & challenging, intresting overall. Tasted elements of the 3 pale styles, but not pale in color. Not a big deal, but what gives?

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Photo of weeare138
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appears a hazy, dark brown with ruby highlights when held up to the light. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of caramel, herbal hops, citrusy orange, and a touch of pine. A touch of biscuit and sugary dough.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas with an herbal zing that sips across the palate with a tiny margin of ripe fruit and bread poking it's head out.
Mouthfeel is full bodied, zingy, highly carbonated, and a tad refreshing with the citrus-like hops pulling through.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
3.35/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance light bronze tea colored body with a light khaki head forms thick with fine speckled evenly coated lacing on the sides of my Allagash chalice. Aroma has some citrus peel notes with solid earthy hops as well with some mineral water and fruit undertones present from the caramel malt profile. The label says it's a mix of English, American, and Belgian pale. Flavor has a deep rich sweetness bringing about mildly spice raisin bread tones, orange peel, with a touch of yeast funk. The spice or citrus peel really holds down the flavor and a bit of residual sugars and alcohol bring out a very harsh finish. Mouthfeel has moderate carbonation levels a bit heavy at times, body is medium bodied there are some resins tea leaf bitterness left on the palate with a bit of residuals from fermentation making it a bit cloying. Drinkability overall it's just not my cup of tea, I don't think the fusion of three types of pale ale produces a new style that is better than any of it's parts. So is it innovative? Maybe, but is it a better creation overall...absolutely not.

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Photo of PittBeerGirl
3.76/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into my snifter

A- Body is a transparent dark copper color with red hues coming through as well. Bubbles are seen steadily rising to the top. Pours with a 1-2 finger soapy white head that eventually fades to 1/2 finger but maintains perfectly from there and leaves plenty of lacing behind in the glass.

S- The nose is above average-but nothing special. A pale malt sweetness is the first to hit the nose and its quite potent. Some floral and earthy hop varieties are detectable as well.

T-Upfront is a definite floral hop presence with some earthy malt overtones. A dose of malty sweetness comes through for the finish and almost overshadows the floral hop presence. What lingers is a moderate floral hop bitterness, a load of floral and earthy flavor, malty sweetness, and what seems to be some phenols mixed in there somewhere.

M- Medium to high carbonation and medium to light body that is a bit thin.

D- This is an interesting hybrid beer. I'm not sure what to categorize it as...but Belgian IPA doesn't quite seem to hit the nail on the head. It's a nice hoppy pale ale that is quite interesting and unique. I'll drink it again but it doesn't make a lasting impression for me.

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Photo of jwc215
3.85/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to morimech!

Pours deep copper. A thin white head leaves some lacing.

The smell is of caramel with herbal notes. It has some citrus and tropical fruits mixed in. Interesting nose.

The taste is of caramel with citrus and herbal/peppery spicing. The spicing becomes more tea-like as it progresses. It proclaims to be, on the label, a mix of American, English and Belgian ... each is noticeable... yet, it comes together well under the caramel character. Sweetness blends with some sour and bitter in the finish.

It has ample carbonation, but not prickly. Medium-bodied.

The alcohol is well-covered. It's a unique brew, for sure. It does have American, English and Belgian attributes, as stated. Odd, but nice!

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Photo of AdamGarcia
3.58/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz btl from 3 son's

A: Pours a lovely garnet hue. Average head from a strong pour that doesn't last long at all. Lace clings to the Duvel tulip.

S: Sweet. Distinctly belgian aroma. Candi. Not picking up much in the hop dept.

T: Nice prickly sweetness as this warms a bit. Balance is right. This tastes like a mixture of Popperings Hommelbier and Flying Dog Raging Bitch. Similar hop presence as Hommel, color and malt profile feel like Raging Bitch.

M: Carbonation feels ok, but I would expect a little higher level of fizz from a Belgian-inspired ale.

D: Solid. Nothing about this beer will slow you down. Although this beer feels a little more heady than the 8.5% abv would suggest.

I like this beer quite a bit. I wish it was a few percentage points lower in alcohol as everything else about this beer feels sessionable to me. My 1st offering from furthermore, I look forward to trying the rest of the lineup. As noted earlier this reminds me of Raging Bitch, which hurts the score somewhat b/c I think the offering from Flying Dog is head and shoulders above Makeweight.

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Photo of tavernjef
4.27/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dullish copper color with nary a head of slimming ivory hued foam slipping off the top as soon as it arrives but sustains a nice dusty skim. Ghostly lacing coats the glass with a few scattered stringy things.

Aroma is bold and heavy of some rum soaked cookie sugars coated with slushy banana, partial old pineapple, dull green tea, and a pile of darker tropical fruit skins.

Taste is much like a Belgian Pale with more malt happened on the back end with that specific tang of yeast that conjures up soggy breads and caramel which is backed with tropical senses of pineapple, banana, mango, some citrusy tinting, and those baked lemon square things. It's quite complexing really, lots of thick malt slathers things up with bready cooked sugary things while laced with nice tropical fruityness. Its no Chouffe Houblon Dobbelen, but its pretty damn solid.

Body is quite malty and heavy with a nice twist of twangy yeast and bready snap laced with slight tropical, citrusy fruityness. Softens and soakens the palate with saturating chewyness and coats the palate like a sponge full of malt extract.

Drinks down quite easy given its hefty, malt laden girth. Very solid stuff and cheap too.

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Photo of ClockworkOrange
3.92/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Part of my massive secret Santa 2009 haul. Thanks to Bill (Scoobydank) for this. Out of a 12 ounce bottle and into my nonic Imperial pint glass. The ale appears the color of golden ginger ale with about a finger of creamy light tan foam. Nose and flavors are of spicy Belgian yeast, sweet biscuits, nice and fruity - apples, pears, grapes, caramelized malt. A bit of alcohol heat warms the back of the throat after each sip. Maybe a notch or two better than medium bodied and adequately carbonated with a rather dry finish. Thanks again Bill!

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Photo of russpowell
3.91/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got this from imperialking, cheers Jeff!

Pours a rich amber/copper with 1 finger+ of tan head. Zero head retention & lacing, nice oily sheen to this

S: Apple peels, mushrooms & general orchard fruit

T: Apple peels, pears & a bit of white grape up front, plus lemon & grapefruit hops. Fruitttyness asserts itself as this warms with plenty of herbal & citric hops lurking in the background. Fruittyness with a touch of brown sugar & caramel in the finish, plus some more citric hops

MF: Fairly chewy with low carbonation & nice balance

A bit too rich to session on, but an interesting slant on the style, skews American West coast IMO. Hides the ABV well, this makes want to try more from these guys!

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Photo of dfillius
4.07/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass
A: Aggressive pour yields 1 finger of off-white head with good retention. Liquid is hazy goldish-red.
S: Sweet caramel, hints of hops and clove. Plum/raisin alcohol. A bit of bread. I'd expect more hops from a BIPA
T: Malty with strong fruity character is almost like a dopplebock or strong ale. Little hops. A bit of breathy alcohol is a negative. Ends with a tasty bready graininess. Something is in the flavor that I wasn't able to place.
M: Alcohol is kind of astringent. Syrupy. Improves as it warms.
D: Very tasty. I'd order another and maybe buy a sixer in the winter. I wouldn't call it a BIPA, but it's tasty.

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