Spaten Optimator
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Style:
German Doppelbock
Ranked #35
ABV:
7.6%
Score:
88
Ranked #11,647
Avg:
3.91 | pDev: 12.28%
Reviews:
1,375
Ratings:
3,187
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Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
 
Germany
Avail:
Year-round
Wants
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Gots
  506
SCORE
88
Very Good
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Reviews by ckornmannn:
Photo of ckornmannn
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

From a bottle: dark amber color, transparent. Prominent sweet smell typical of a dopplebock. This is one sweet malty beer: lots of caramel, brown sugar. Restrained hop presence. The beer is very viscous. From a bottle, I thought it was a bit flat and didnt retain its head very long. I initially tried this beer on tap and thought it was divine; the carbonation and head retention was excellent and the deep malty flavors perfect for the style. I have tried it in bottles afterwards and I think it is underwhelming by comparison. The first bottle had weird off metallic phenol flavors. The second wasn't obviously spoiled but didn't have the feel of the beer on tap. I think the bottom line is, this beer is pretty average in a bottle. Probably the style just doesn't store well. If you can find it on tap, go for it!

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More User Reviews:
Photo of 29mikoyan
5/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the best doppelbocks in the world. Molasses and nice dark bread define this beer. A beautiful fruity finish. One of the best lagers in the world and also the best beers in this world.

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Photo of bizmirli
5/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is my favorite beer. It made me explore the world of craft beer

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Photo of mothmanscott
3.92/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a clear deep mahogany brown producing 2+ fingers of tan, frothy, shortlived head that leaves a few motes & streaks of lace, a thin surface cap & collar. Very malty as expected. Aroma is dark fruity, dark bread, baked sweet potato, roasted nuts, molasses, anise, chocolate & vanilla with back ground hints of char & thin sour. Taste is sweet, fresh cut pumpernickel, toffee, brown sugar, roast, prune, raisin, fig, sweet potato, licorice & pepper. The sip has a peppery spiciness in the sweet potato, fruity, chocolate & lightly boozy finish. Fruit, molasses & toffee mix with a hint of hop bitterness make up the aftertaste. Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with moderate-high carbonation, mouth coating, creamy & chewy into the finish gliding smooth into the aftertaste. Very good quality for the price.

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Photo of Carb-Overlord
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Wenn ich nach Munchen bin, drinke ich viel Spaten Optimator. Diese Bier smecht am bestens mit Blut und Zahne Wurst. Die farbe ist dunkel braun. Ich finde das Bier ist sehr gut fur eine dobbelbach. Komm! Drinken Spaten Optimator mit mir!

Prost!!!

... and, this is really a very fine Dobbelbach. Brings back memories of Munich... anyway, pours a rich dark brown with a creamy 1/4" head. Rich sweet flavor; very smooth. This is just bond warming on a chilly autumn night. Would share this with friends or guests any day of the week.

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Photo of Mike707
4.6/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into an over sized wine glass Optimator is a delicious malty Doppel Bock with Caramel and toasted malt notes. Definitely a cooler weather brew. Not as good as Paulaner Salvator Double Bock though!
Still can't go wrong with Optimator!
Why don't any American or Californian's brew a Bock or Doppel Bock ? All the so called "Micro Breweries" think the more Hops the better. Adding more Horsepower to a car doesn't necessarily make it better unless you add bigger brakes, suspension etc...
I don't drink those "New Jack" beers that taste like my Dad made it at home. Unless I'm drinking his.

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Photo of Beeeeeerman
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Squire
4.35/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This one sells for $7.49 a sixer at my local. When it shows up I buy as much as I can carry. Remarkable sum of the parts beer beginning with rich deep color, full mouth filling flavor and texture, so lavish it's hard to swallow because you want to keep on tasting. Malt forward, hops supporting like a beautiful sonorous piano backed by a string orchestra. Fortunately the aftertaste is a receding diminishment of the same. Another one to seek out wherever found.

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Photo of delcobrewzzz
4.56/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured into seidel mug...

dark amber...actually reminds me of 12 year or older whiskey...nice creamy head that dissipates quickly

nose is not too assertive....bready caramel but a bit thin

flavor is full but mouthfeel less full-bodied (a bit more carbonated than i remember)...getting that lovely dark dried fruit preserves (raisins), bready/malty backbone that lingers a bit then fades fast...sure, the ABV is sensed, but very easy to drink....complex enough for what this is...an excellent example and a go-to for seasoned and newbies....

wait! hold the presses! i just felt something was missing...

i decided to pour the 3/4 that was left into a tall mega-pilsen glass...what a difference...skinnier, undimpled glass allows more light into this still very dark amber doppelbock...head lingers much longer and continues to lace as it slowly settles....nose stays the same...taste alters quite a bit, so am pleased to get more malt backbone, a more mellowed sweet dried-fruit marmalade note (actually a lemon-meringue instance, too)...so a citrus, oranginess comes through...the mouthfeel 'seems' less thin and the effervescence is not so distracting. interesting. still highly recommended.

choose your glassware wisely...!

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Photo of Cheesy_McDuck
4.59/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

dark dark brown color, almost black. This beer is delicious, but at times overwhelmingly alcoholic. I feel like this is the kind of beer Thor would drink as a night cap. Incredible German flavors and craftsmanship!

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Photo of zshaft
3.61/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

not really a fan of this style but this was good. once you get used to the malt this beer gets pretty good with notes of dark fruit and bread with a nice clean finish. def a sipper for me but the representation of the style seems spot on. great color. nose is not for me. flavor profile is actually really nice if you enjoy it rather than pound it. won't get again cause im an ipa guy but wouldn't turn down if offered. glad I tried it.

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Photo of BeerAdvocate
3.82/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12 oz. green bottle with gold foil on top. No freshness date.

Appearance: Rich deep dark copper with a light tan head that dissipates to a sticky lace.

Smell: Hints of caramel, sweet and toasted malt. Some spicy alcohol fumes and a trace of apple peel aroma.

Taste: Thick and huge stodgy malt, caramel, rounded toasted malt, sweet dextrins and grain lets through a twang of alcohol and a thin leafy hop. A remaining dextrinous toasted malt, a ever so fading hop leaf and drying grain are in the end.

Notes: Ahhh ... a meal in a bottle. Breakfast anyone? If beer is measured by its malt back bone than this is a body builder beer. 7.2 abv with a 12 month self life.

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Photo of Brent
4.06/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Toasted caramel aroma and solid malty caramel body. Finish is sweet and moderately bitter with nice separation between the flavors. Not as good as Celebrator IMHO, but pushes a close second.

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Photo of Jordan
4.84/5  rDev +23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Cocoa flavor in the background, strong malt flavors. This has been my introduction into the world of doppel-bock. One of the most satisfying beers I've had the pleasure of drinking.
Contemplative, superb.

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Photo of PanzerFaced
5/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This beer takes on a rich flavor with a distinct malty taste. I enjoy it's chocolate and amber flavors. You get just enough without it being to overpowering. This beer also has a nice alcohol percentage of 7.2% which is just right for this style of beer, you tend to not notice the alcohol with the balance of the malt.

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Photo of grg001
4.77/5  rDev +22%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Love this beer. It sets the standards for everything I personally love about beers. Truly a great beer IMO.

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Photo of Morris729
4.2/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Maly, malty, malty! Pours a dark brownish ruby color with a foamy and bubbly white head that fades into a nice lace. Nose is dominated by sweet toasted malts with notes of caramel. Thick and chewy in the mouth with tastes of sweet malts, rich buttery toffee, caramel, and raisin. Oily hops create a bit of a slick feeling in the mouth and a touch of bitterness leaves a semi-dry finish. For the malt fans, this is a great beer.

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Photo of MaltyGoodness
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle

Pours a beautifully clear dark chestnut with a creamy eggshell head. Mild lacing on the glass.

Sweet caramel malt aroma with a light nutty scent woven in.

Sweet and malty upfront with a subtle nuttiness. A slight notion of hops appears just before it finishes sweet and malty.

Thick body, substantial carbonation.

A good drinking dopplebock. I will revisit this one again.

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Photo of bmwats
4.07/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 500 ml bottle, into imperial pilsner.

A: Medium dark brown. Pretty heavy carbonation as bubbles cling to the insides of the glass. Pours a 2 finger frothy brownish head. Settles fairly slowly and unevenly. Eventually leaves just a little blanket of bubbly carbonation on the surface. Some clingy, brownish lacing, but mostly retreats back into the body of the brew.

S: Molasses, brown sugar, and caramel. A touch of grain, but the sweet aromatic components mostly drown that out. Not cloying though.

T: Although the nose doesn't produce the malt, the palette does. A dark roasted coffee malt, with subtly sweet molasses and raisin components. A little peaty tone comes out as well.

M: Has kind of a syrupy texture to it, but a bit lighter watery/airiness. Malty in the front, subtly sweet in the middle, peaty in the end. Has a pretty dry pungent finish to it.

D: Light enough to be able to drink through without much resistance, but heavy enough to want to sip and enjoy.

Great atmosphere. Appearance is very solid. Dark and rich with a nice full head. Nose is a great combination of sweet, but not overly so, components. Flavor is malty with subtle sweetness, but not enough to deduct from the roasted malty goodness. Overall, this is a great quaff.

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Photo of philbe311
3.72/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Lively beige head quickly fades... Dark translucent mahogany color... Slight carbonation... No lacing... Doesn't coat glass...

S - Very strong candy caramel apple... Nutty and earthy characteristics are present, but much more mild... Malt... Mild coffee...

T - Malts and lots of them of varying lineages... Apple butter... Cherry... Slight hops and alcohol on finish...

M - Smooth with light carbonation... Creamy... Potent...

D - Heavy, but enjoyable... Complex... I think it would take several tasting to get a thorough understanding of this beer... I may just be willing to do that given the high quality of the brew...

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Photo of flagmantho
3.78/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 16.9 oz bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: dark woody brown with a two-finger persistent tan head. Quite nice.

Smell: thick malt with a little pear aroma tossed in. It's also got a bit of an unctuous tartness in there which I feel I cannot adequately describe. Still, pretty interesting.

Taste: lots of malt which develops into the same pear/tree fruit that was present in the aroma. Fruity is a good word to describe it, but it is a heavy, syrupy fruity which means serious business. I don't know from doppelbocks, but this tastes pretty good to me.

Mouthfeel: big body but it doesn't coat the mouth like syrup. Pretty good.

Drinkability: this stuff is pretty tasty to me, but it is a little bit of a one-note song (OK, a two-note song--malt and pears--but you get the idea). I'll finish this one gladly, but it's a little sweet and monotonous to session.

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Photo of tjsdomer2
4.42/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Excellent tan lacing that remains on the glass. Blood red; perfect to the Halloween season.

Smell: Sweet vinegary grapes. Smokey oak as well. Again, definitely a great seasonal.

Taste/Mouthfeel: Initially some dry smokey grass. Oak follows with a hint of raisin. Mouthfeel starts nice and yeasty and is a bit thin overall. Despite this, it makes a nice crisp and bold comeback in the finish.

Overall: An excellent beer.

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Photo of eaphikap
4/5  rDev +2.3%

Photo of ZethOfTheNorth
4/5  rDev +2.3%

Photo of 360logic
3.86/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L: Standard dark amber of most doppelbocks. Medium thick head.

S: Dark cherry, toasted pumpernickel bread, sight yeastiness. A distinct metallic odor stands out though. Kind of unpleasant.

T: A somewhat indistinct dark maltiness interplays dark fruitswith . The finish is pretty strange, a weird sour funkiness gives way to a very flat maltiness before it disappears. Again, not an overly pleasant detail.

M: Medium body without too much carbonation. Pretty nice.

O: Pretty good. If I had never had the other major german doppelbocks I'd hold this in higher regard, but as it stands, this lies near the bottom of that list.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Beer rating: 88 out of 100 with 3187 ratings