Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

BA SCORE
88
very good
3,049 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,049
Reviews:
1,333
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
12.31%
 
 
Wants:
97
Gots:
438
For Trade:
0
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look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12oz green bottle with no date. malt liquor, 7.6 abv

pours a very dark but clear amber, thin layer of foam. Smell is yeast and dusty grain, some funky euro hops too. first taste is roasty malt, then some dark fruit and a very sweet middle. finish is smooth and a touch bitter. no skunk for me (well, maybe a little)!

surprisingly good, maybe a tad too sweet. not a trace of the 7.6, and the price is right. Winner.

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look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a shaker pint glass.

Look: Ruby mahogany body. Cream colored head with decent retention and random lines of lacing.

Aroma: Caramel and toffee are skunked out by the green bottle.

Taste: A spicy, toffee-like body. But there is a green bottle skunk note that ruins this. Buttery caramel otherwise.

Mouthfeel: Creamy, slightly heavy.

Overall: I can't help but think this must be great on tap. Why do German brewers use green bottles?

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look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Green bottle beer! Yikes! Why? Anyway, this particular bottle exhibits no skunk aroma of flavor which is nice because it would detract from the profile.

I poured this beer cold into a tulip glass. Neither appropriate for the style, but you can't always have perfection. It poured a nice clear dark mahogany with a one finger tan head that quickly dissipated to a thin ring around the glass and very little lacing is noticeable.

The aroma is of sweet caramel malts and dark fruits with a tad of bread to it and maybe some honey and molasses. It's very pleasant.

The taste is of malted sweetness with molasses, dark fruit, some nice bread notes and a hint of cherry all pretty much apparent equally throughout the sip with the molasses lingering until the end where some mild bitter hops finish it all off with a bit o' black pepper. Alcohol is apparent in neither the nose or the taste. Well done!

The mouthfeel is sweet, almost syrupy, but not quite, the hops and moderate carbonation help to counter that. The body is generally full with maybe a little chewiness to it.

Overall this is an exceptional beer in my book. Why they risk putting it in a green bottle I have no clue. It may be too sweet for some, but that is the style. I like it a lot and if I were to detract any points it would be for the very faint head. I give it a solid 4 out of 5, maybe one notch higher. I am not happy about the ownership of the brewery and that destroys any chance of me buying it again.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,049 ratings.
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