Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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88
very good
3,060 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,060
Reviews:
1,335
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
12.31%
 
 
Wants:
96
Gots:
445
For Trade:
0
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Photo of FBarber
3.68/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a reddish brown color. Complete clarity in the beer other than some carbonation bubbles. Thin off-white head dissipates quickly leaving just a ring of tan foam along the outside of the beer.

Smell has notes of bready malts, sweet dark fruits, strong malts and some mild earthy aromas - hops, but not a hop aroma per se.

Taste follows the nose with notes of bready malts, dark fruits, raisins, prunes, some mild earthy hops. Simple and straightforward but a solid example of the style.

Feel is a bit light for the style, but that makes it very easy drinking. Medium prickly carbonation. Smooth with a somewhat surprisingly drier finish.

Overall a very well done doppelbock. Not the best of the style, but a solid example.

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Photo of Hephaestos
4.13/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Photo of puck1225
3.82/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass. Dark frown color with a thin beige head, decent lacing. Subdued dark malt smell. The taste is wheat, dark toast,,chocolate and a hint of banana. Overall, pretty good!

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Photo of Satorn
3.67/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of dar482
4.07/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

The beer comes in a deep brown color, with a ring of creamy white head.

The beer offers a rich malt flavor, raisins and dried prunes, toasted bread crust, hints of light cocoa, an earthy bitterness to balance the sweetness. A clean lager finish that helps hollow out the Maillard flavors and sweetness offered up front. Mouthfeel is medium plus with a bit of tingly moderate carbonation.

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Photo of Klister
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of informaticsDoc
3.88/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of DallasK
4.2/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of MooseBoose
4.44/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of MeanMotaScootah
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

For the style this is a great doppelbock. It's not my favorite style of beer but definitely a great beer for cold winter night. Similar to a "winter warmer" without all the spice. The aroma is clearly sweet raisin sugar all malt no hops detected. Pours a deep brass - nearly opaque. Very little head and low carbonation so might be turned off by this but it does make for an "easier" drinking beer. Taste overall is dominated by sweet raisin, plum notes with lots of brown sugar. This almost reminds me of a Belgium ale but minus the spice. Bottom line if you dig German beers give this one a try, you won't be disappointed.

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Photo of duvel1979
2.5/5  rDev -35.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Photo of BeerAndFilm
3.81/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Gregaroo
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

1-17-17 - on tap

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Photo of Yogi_Sanandy
4.28/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Eman17
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of KenMiller123
3.61/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I got this from Bev Mo, since I've been starting to discover and enjoy different types of German beers.

It reminds me of a stronger, darker version of Killian's Irish Red.

When you hold it up to the light, you can see through the glass, but just barely. If you do a hard pour, you'll get a little bit of a head, but it dissipates quickly.

The smell is definitely malt and yeast. The taste is like a drinkable version of a traditional King's Cake (Rosca de Reyes) served on Epiphany. It's not overly sweet, though, so if you don't know what a King's Cake is, don't let that scare you off.

The mouth feel is medium-bodied, somewhere between an ale and a stout, and this beer is very well carbonated.

It's a great beer for the holidays and would be excellent with a nice honey-baked ham and a sweet potato casserole.

Overall, it's not gonna blow your socks off, but it's very drinkable. It's not necessarily a session beer, with 7.6% abv, but I could sip on it all day and not get tired of the taste.

The coolest part is that this brewery has been in operation since the late 14th Century. It's owned by Anheiser Busch these days, but I think they still brew everything in the traditional manner. In that sense, it's like drinking a bit of history. Monks have been drinking this same beer for over 600 years! How cool is that?!

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Photo of VoxRationis
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Decanted from 12 oz (355 ml) bottle into a conical wine glass at the Modern Diner in Aquabogue, NY; best by 05/2018.
A: Pours a dark copper color with no more than a quarter inch head. Little retention and no lacing whatsoever.
S: Aromas of sweet maltiness, toast and chocolate.
T: Distinct flavors of molasses, caramel, and milk chocolate. Bitterness strong and a little out of balance.
M: Light to medium bodied. Somewhat watery with low carbonation.
O: An enjoyable doppelbock, but not top of the line for the style. Would have expected stronger aromas and flavors and fuller body and more robust carbonation.

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Photo of jg24rules
4.07/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of OompaMentor
4.27/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Superheatnsubcool
4.04/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of sweemzander
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of zshaft
3.61/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

not really a fan of this style but this was good. once you get used to the malt this beer gets pretty good with notes of dark fruit and bread with a nice clean finish. def a sipper for me but the representation of the style seems spot on. great color. nose is not for me. flavor profile is actually really nice if you enjoy it rather than pound it. won't get again cause im an ipa guy but wouldn't turn down if offered. glad I tried it.

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Photo of Lucoli
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Dinglehacker
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap, served in a mug. Massive head. Dull ruby color with little light.

Smells like chlorine and sweetness.

Tastes sweet, notes of red licorice, molasses sweetbread, plum. No evident hops.

Medium bodied mouth.

The sudsy smell promised disappointment, but the flavor delivered a typical, exemplary doppelbock. Not the best, but not a weaker example.

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Photo of singletary
4.27/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

It pours a rich dark brown with light brown head. The aroma is of roasted malts with the taste of deep malts with a sweetness to it. Overall it is a deep rich doppelbock.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,060 ratings.
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