Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

very good
3,045 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator

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Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Photo of acevenom
4.72/5  rDev +21%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a 1 pint 0.9 ounce bottle into a 22 ounce brandy snifter. Pours dark brown with a dissipating tan head that leaves some lacing. The smell is of sweet dark roasted malts and a bit of caramel. There's maybe a bit of fig in the smell. The taste is of lightly sweet malt, fig, caramel, a little bit of bitterness on the back end. It's not cloyingly sweet and the ABV is not noticeable. The mouthfeel is full and the flavors linger in the mouth, but it is very pleasant. The carbonation is well done. Overall, this is an excellent beer and is still one of my favorites.

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Photo of beergod1
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep ruby/brown pour with a medium foamy head that sticks around a while. Aroma of sweet roasty caramel malt and light sweet fruitiness. Flavor is the same. Loads of roasty malt and hints of Caramel. A bit of alcohol bite on the finish, but not enough to be distracting, still smooooth. Body needs to be a bit heavier. Not the Best Doppel Bock....But this is well worth it. Thanx Doug K.

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Photo of KFrank729
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%

Photo of Jack_Frost79
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of obrike
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Gave a hard pour inot my New Belgium goblet...looks like a coke...decent off white head that disapates quickly...not much lacing to speak of.

A light hint of dark fruits...pretty buried though. i wanted more.

Very light taste of dark fruits, plum...some sweetness, not overbearing; a bit too subdued. Again, I wanted a bit more boldness, but good nonetheless.

A tad thin...but vey smooth.

Quite easy drinking, refreshing doppelbock...hides alcohol very well. I'd say this is a beer anyone could handle and go back to again.

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Photo of jcalabre
3.6/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Originally sampled on 1 March 2003. I am writing this review from my notes. draught: This pours a dark brown color. The body is a lot lighter than I expected. It has a lots of malty, roasty flavors. it's a very nice beer, enjoyable, but not outstanding in my opinion.

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Photo of vidisad
3.63/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Peyton5410
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Beefytits4
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of gelasin
4.25/5  rDev +9%

Photo of DoctorDog
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12oz bottle into a glass mug. This brew courtesy of the old man.

A- Dark reddish/brown with ruby edges. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head. Head dwindles slowly to a thin, incomplete cap. Minimal lacing

S- Extremely nutty and slightly metallic. Bready, caramel sweetness begins to emerge as the head settles.

T- Very sweet and malty. Raisiny notes mingle with molasses and coffee. Charred caramel bitterness on the finish.

M- Slightly low carbonation- a tad under-carbonated IMO. Medium-full feeling, and slightly syrupy.

D- Solid. Pleasing flavor and easy drinking.

Future outlook: Good, if unspectacular beer. I won't seek it out, but I won't run if handed another one of these.

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Photo of jakewatt135
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of nhirsch04
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of soulcougher
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of Hoagie1973
3.48/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours chestnut brown with a 2 finger noisy head. Head settles but doesn't disappear completely. Not a whole lot in the way of lacing.
Smells sweet & malty with a hint of earthiness.
Tastes rich, sweet & malty with brown sugar/molasses, dark fruits, nuts, and a bit of alcohol. Medium to full body with slightly sharp carbonation. Finishes a little sticky and syrupy.
Not a bad dopplebock overall, especially for the price. Solid, but nothing special. I would buy it again.

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Photo of stoutman
4.07/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasty and packs a punch. A beer worthy of respect. Nice smell and color. Excellent malt flavor with a near perfect hop finish.

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Photo of homebrewhawk
4.2/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

.5 liter brown bottle. Poured a clear reddish brown with about a finger of off white head. Huge malt aroma with some dark sugar and a little bit of noble hops. Fully bodied thick with malt. A pretty good amount of noble hop bitterness to balance the malt. Alcohol is evident in the finish. Good example of the style. Goes down a little too easy at 7.2% abv!

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Photo of biggmike
4.07/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a very dark brown color and head didnt last too long. Nice roasted malt flavor. This was one of the better doppelbocks I’ve had. Taste is kind of sweet, malt, molasses raisins. I'm not a huge fan of doppelbocks but this was pretty good. Dont think I could drink more than two, however, so dont purchase this as a session beer.

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Photo of Lexluthor33
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark chocolate brown with small head and a sticky lace.The aroma is of malts,dark fruits,some chocolate notes with plums and and nuts.
The taste was toffee,chocolate,light hops,sweet caramel alcohol. The malts can not be forgotten as they really flexed thier muscles.
The overall feel was that this was a light-heavy beer. It was smooth,creamy,with light carbonation. Tad bit of a dry finish and certainly sweet to the core. A good,decent brew.

Notes: OK,so this was not exceptional or overly complex; yet I felt it hit the spot. Good silky tones and nice ABV. I could have had one more.

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Photo of GossageBrewery
3.47/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Poured this Doppelbock from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass. Poured a dark brown color, produced an average tan head, nice retention and nice lacing. The aroma of this ale consists of toasted malt, caramel and white pepper. Medium in body, the ale contains a foundation of malted grain, sweet caramel, roasted coffee beans, dark chocolate and earthy hops. Nice example. of the style, not outstanding but it is worth a shot.

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Photo of SurlyDuff
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've had this a number of time before, last time was oktoberfest last year. Nice looking bottle with a foil wrapper. This bottle embodies theor classic german logo that probably hasn't changed for generations.

Pours a dark nutty brown.

Sweet malt-forward aroma with a good bit of roastiness. Some toffee and caramel sweetness. Nutty.

Full flavored and nice full mouthfeel. Thick malt, a bit nutty and chewy. Some toasty grain, not much hop punch to be found. This brew is to-style, perhaps a bit on the light side, but i would recommend this to anyone who wants to try a dopplebock. In a way, it is a bit pedestrian for a DB, but it's just so smooth and balanced that I would consider it the epitome of the style.

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Photo of JEdmund
3.95/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark amber, like a strong iced tea. Good head on it, which leveled out fast, yet left a nice surface layer of foam.

Bready, and some pepperiness to it; a bit sweet like a brown ale; hints of raisin, and just a tad coffee

Taste & Mouthfeel
Decent bitterness to it, though certainly more toffee, malty flavors coming through. Light in body on the tongue, with a nice amount of carbonation.

A tasty doppelbock. It would be easy to drink this as a session beer.

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Photo of goindownsouth
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is really an area of German Biers that I have not gotten into much just yet. But I will be visiting it again soon. This malty and rather herbacious brew was a real winner. The roasted goodness stayed in the nose, and lasted through to the last sip. This is a solid Bier.


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Photo of Lagerquestrian
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of BeerAndFilm
3.81/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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