Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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88
very good
3,060 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,060
Reviews:
1,335
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
12.31%
 
 
Wants:
96
Gots:
445
For Trade:
0
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Ratings: 3,060 |  Reviews: 1,335
Photo of frank4sail
4.3/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Strong caramel smell with deep dark amber look. Pale head with good retention. The caramel keeps coming when you taste. Malty sweetness with hints of roasted coffee beans. Lots of complex flavor. Smooth silk mouth but there is also lots of sparkle on the tongue. the aftertaste is slightly nutty. Very good brew for the cool/cold nights in fall or winter.

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Photo of TheDeuce
3.38/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy dark color, very malty profile in the head and aroma. Taste is dark, somewhat sour malts come through, a hint of licorice, finishes dry not that smooth. Alcoholic but well hidden, very balanced and flavors do not muddle, overall a solid beer.

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Photo of changeup45
3.38/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a deep amber-brown color with a thick tan head. Lots of lacing left on the glass. Aroma seems quite sweet with some maltiness and tart fruitiness. A sharp tart dark fruity taste mixed in with some roasted malts and sweet sugary notes. A little sour in the finish. Not bad.

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Photo of mzwolinski
4.56/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Deep ruby in color, with a torrent of carbonation. Topped by a massive, creamy light tan head. This is quite persistent and lends a nice creaminess to the whole drink.

Rich, slightly toasty toffee-like malt aroma.

Flavor starts with a hint of tang, but quickly settles down to a smooth, rich, caramel malt. Something of a one-note beer, but what a note it is! Medium-bodied. Incredibly smooth, and not a bit cloying. This is amazingly drinkable for something this sweet. A classic.

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Photo of Pellinore1
5/5  rDev +28.2%

Photo of BigPlay1824
4.06/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in a tumbler

A: pours a very deep brown non translucent color with a thin amount of creamy brown head that dissipates quickly, leaves a small amount of lacing

S: nice deep scent with nice caramel notes

T: very nice deep caramelly malt flavors backed by a slight sweetness that helps it to finish smoother

D/M: beautifully smooth drinking especially for a dopplebock, drinks much lighter than expected and yet still has a great depth of flavor that really makes it an enticing brew

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Photo of nhirsch04
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of ILiveOffHops
4.32/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The Optimator pours a deep dark brown with some red. Small head dissapates to almost nothing...a very thin ring of foam remains. Aroma is sweet and malty. Taste is of sweet caramel, fruity plums and cherries, huge malty goodness, a little roasted flavor, and a hint of warm alcohol. Mouthfeel is great, feels like a full bodied strong brew. For a doppelbock, and especially considering the ABV, I consider this a highly drinkable brew. No flavor is overwhelming, and the alcohol is well hidden. I wish there was a bigger head on this brew, but other than that I loved it. Germans do know how to brew!

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Photo of Greggy
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pours a fluffy 2 finger light tan head, the body is a mahogany brown color with no sediment. As it recedes, nice lacing is present.

S- Dark chocolate, caramel, toffee, dark fruits

T- Starts out with a creamy dark chocolate, toffee, some dark fruit and some dryness on the finish.

M- Nice smooth creamy feel. Low carbonation.

D- A pretty decent bock here. Alc is hidden is hidden well. There isn't a ton to it, but I'd probably drink it again if offered.

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Photo of bh123
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

Photo of obrike
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Gave a hard pour inot my New Belgium goblet...looks like a coke...decent off white head that disapates quickly...not much lacing to speak of.

A light hint of dark fruits...pretty buried though. i wanted more.

Very light taste of dark fruits, plum...some sweetness, not overbearing; a bit too subdued. Again, I wanted a bit more boldness, but good nonetheless.

A tad thin...but vey smooth.

Quite drinkable...an easy drinking, refreshing doppelbock...hides alcohol very well. I'd say this is a beer anyone could handle and go back to again.

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Photo of philipquarles
3.8/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a clear dark brown with a medium off-white head that dissipates to nothing.

Smells of sweet dark malt, plain and simple. This carries on to the taste. Slightly sweeter and less complex than some comparable beers, but certainly not bad.

Overall, a very drinkable doppelbock, but not one I'll spring for again if I have a choice.

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Photo of acevenom
4.72/5  rDev +21%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a 1 pint 0.9 ounce bottle into a 22 ounce brandy snifter. Pours dark brown with a dissipating tan head that leaves some lacing. The smell is of sweet dark roasted malts and a bit of caramel. There's maybe a bit of fig in the smell. The taste is of lightly sweet malt, fig, caramel, a little bit of bitterness on the back end. It's not cloyingly sweet and the ABV is not noticeable. The mouthfeel is full and the flavors linger in the mouth, but it is very pleasant. The carbonation is well done. Overall, this is an excellent beer and is still one of my favorites.

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Photo of beergod1
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep ruby/brown pour with a medium foamy head that sticks around a while. Aroma of sweet roasty caramel malt and light sweet fruitiness. Flavor is the same. Loads of roasty malt and hints of Caramel. A bit of alcohol bite on the finish, but not enough to be distracting, still smooooth. Body needs to be a bit heavier. Not the Best Doppel Bock....But this is well worth it. Thanx Doug K.

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Photo of KFrank729
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%

Photo of Jack_Frost79
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of jcalabre
3.6/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Originally sampled on 1 March 2003. I am writing this review from my notes. draught: This pours a dark brown color. The body is a lot lighter than I expected. It has a lots of malty, roasty flavors. it's a very nice beer, enjoyable, but not outstanding in my opinion.

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Photo of Peyton5410
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of scaliasux
4.09/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Dark brown with maybe a little red. Looks clear, but hard to tell with beer as dark as this. Thin tan persistent head.

Smell - Strong dark malt aroma. Prominent molasses, maybe caramel scent. I don't notice any hoppiness. Smells tasty.

Taste - Strong dark malt flavor. Molasses, raisin, toast flavors. Little hops. A little alcohol warming. Tasty and interesting.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full.

Drinkability - I'm a doppelbock lover and this is a fine doppelbock. It has a nice interesting full flavor like a doppelbock should have and plenty of alcohol so you don't drink too many.

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Photo of Lagerquestrian
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of Beefytits4
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of DoctorDog
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12oz bottle into a glass mug. This brew courtesy of the old man.

A- Dark reddish/brown with ruby edges. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head. Head dwindles slowly to a thin, incomplete cap. Minimal lacing

S- Extremely nutty and slightly metallic. Bready, caramel sweetness begins to emerge as the head settles.

T- Very sweet and malty. Raisiny notes mingle with molasses and coffee. Charred caramel bitterness on the finish.

M- Slightly low carbonation- a tad under-carbonated IMO. Medium-full feeling, and slightly syrupy.

D- Solid. Pleasing flavor and easy drinking.

Future outlook: Good, if unspectacular beer. I won't seek it out, but I won't run if handed another one of these.

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Photo of jakewatt135
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of Acforster2
3.93/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of soulcougher
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,060 ratings.
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