Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

BA SCORE
88
very good
3,045 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,045
Reviews:
1,332
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
12.31%
 
 
Wants:
95
Gots:
434
For Trade:
0
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Ratings: 3,045 |  Reviews: 1,332
Photo of ivehadthatbrew
4.02/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Look (3): Minus points for using a green bottle. Pours a rich mahogany brown color with very small carbonation bubbles that forms a lightly tanned topper. Head disipates quickly.

Smell (4): Dark malty bread and dried fruit aroma (like raisons or what I'd imagine chocolate covered figs would smell like if they smelled). Brings me back to my awakening beer, Trogenator.

Taste (4.25): Everyone has heard or used the term liquid bread, but that term definitely goes hand in hand with doppelbocks. Raison bread with caramel malt and candy. Sugary chocolate with plums or dried cherries.

Mouthfeel (3.75): I expected a bit more body, but when comparing this classic example to one of my all time favorite beers (Trogenator!!) it can't compare. Not as much body, not as big of a finish. It all kind of falls short.

Overall (4): A beautiful example of what a doppelbock is. I could have fun trying to blind this beer up against porters and eisbock brews in the future!

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Photo of UWBeerBadger
4.19/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Photo of beertraveler08
3.86/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of kotzbauerm
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of jnorris404
3.1/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Photo of webmanspidey
3.71/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of chicagoish
3.64/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of bigdeuce
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I wish Hofbrau and Spaten would start bottling in brown not green. That being said, this one doesn't smell skunked. It pours a deep, dark, mahogany color with a nice tan head. Scents of toffee, caramel, and plums on the nose. Tastes of coffee and dark chocolate. A bit over carbonated as the sweet balance literally fizzles out from the carbonation. Leaves a bit of an off taste because of it. Still, very quaffable and a decent beer but has a macro quality to it that misses the mark. Many better American versions are available.

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Photo of Noelito76
3.45/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of McGee666
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Wer34truh
4.14/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color with a small head, which dissipates quite quickly.

Smells of sweet bread, caramel, and candy. The smell is definitely nuanced, but the sweetness is key here.

Taste is more bitter than expected from the smell, with quite a large degree of bitter malts, and grains. Also quite a bit of molasses. Mouthfeel is medium-light, with very little carbonation. Just the way I like it.

This is a fascinating beer, and it keeps surprising you after every sip you take. It's not complex the way, say a Russian Imperial Stout is, but whenever you think you've got this beer figured out, you realize something new. That's why this has me coming back to it time and time over again.

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Photo of Spyderglx
3.43/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of CodeBlack7
4.09/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of RichardARoss
4.14/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of HawkinsNOC
4.44/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of vainosuomi
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of mkanne3616
3.92/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Beginner2
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've had this often because it goes with so many foods, particularly good at starting and ending winter meals. The malt works its way into lots of foods to complement, some of them spicy (always a pleasant surprise to me who likes spice.)
Some bottles seemed to be too carbonated... but I confess to inconsistency in mouthfeel and notes.
It is not in the top 5 dopplebocks for me, but is always welcome.

Beer is listed in the "1001".
MJ's 1999 edition gave it only 2 stars of 4 calling "creamy and nutty, but unmemorable."

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Photo of spedprof
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of hegg4345
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of ESPN_Woodsy
3.84/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of JetFeather22
5/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the best Doppel Bocks i have ever had, I cant believe i payed 9 bucks for a six pack of 12 once bottles.. Considering the price and the quality of the beer i'd say it doesn't get much better than this, I got to say that this beer deserves a higher rating that 87, Maybe it's the green bottle maybe some people have gotten a few skunky beer, Thankfully i haven't

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Photo of Hendrick24
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of a_f7
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Immortale25
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,045 ratings.
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