Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

BA SCORE
88
very good
3,049 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,049
Reviews:
1,333
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
12.31%
 
 
Wants:
97
Gots:
438
For Trade:
0
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4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of TheFlern
3.4/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Dark brown with a little bit of reddish hue. White head dissipates to a very thin layer. No lacing.

Smell: Lots of luscious malt. Slight metallic taste in the background (probably from age).

Taste: Follows the nose. Slight skunk taste, most likely from age.

Mouthfeel: very smooth, good amount of carbonation.

Overall: I wish I could get this fresh. This is a good beer I can tell but age has taken its toll. Its too bad American breweries cannot produce top quality doppelbocks at this price.

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of mdaschaf
3.7/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Review from notes.

A: Pours a ruddy brown color with a small, off-white head on top. Not much retention, and leaves behind some very thin lacing.

S: Some dark fruit, raisins and a little plum, some brown sugar and caramel.

T: Rather sweet. Caramel, brown sugar, and a good bit of dark fruit. More raisins and plums as well as a little bit of fig.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Drinks smooth.

O: Pretty good beer, seems to fit the style well, but not my favorite. Wouldn't have a problem drinking it again.

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4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: dark mahogany, nearly opaque; thick, finely foamed head with great lacing

Smell: heavy malt, dates and currants, raisins; slight alcohol notes

Taste: big and malty up front with a bit over-the-top alcohol warmth throughout

Mouthfeel: heavy, velvety; smooth

Overall: a classic doppelbock with, perhaps a shade too much alcohol presence in the taste, but not so overbearing as to be a real detriment. There's no reason to not grab one any time you're in the mood for a German doppel...

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3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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4.5/5  rDev +15.4%

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3/5  rDev -23.1%

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4.5/5  rDev +15.4%

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4.5/5  rDev +15.4%

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3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

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3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

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4.5/5  rDev +15.4%

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3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

Photo of jondeelee
4.12/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Optimator opens with a full, malty nose, rich with yeasty, unrisen bread dough made with carbonated lemon/lime soda, floury wheat crusts, and healthy doses of brown sugars. Subtle hints of vanilla and fig juice linger in the background. Overall, the nose is well-balanced and quite enticing, promising a good dose of sugars, mixed with earthy breads and touches of caramel.

On the tongue, the beer is just as malty as the nose implied, rich with brown sugar and fig juice, threaded with vanilla, molasses, and caramel, all atop a fine grain layer of Grape Nuts cereal, floury Artisinal French baguette crusts, and just a touch of lemon/lime/pink grapefruit citrus from the hops to balance the sugars. The aftertaste is a slightly more hoppy version of the main mouthful, most of the sugars having died off, and lingers for a decent amount of time. Mouthfeel is medium, and carbonation is medium.

Overall, this is quite good beer, and at 7.6% ABV, decently alcoholic, but the alcohol well hidden by the sugary malts. The beer is well-balanced in the sugars, and while it does lack a distinctive hop quality, this is more than made up for by an excellent and varied grain selection. Well worth trying.

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3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,049 ratings.
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