Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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BA SCORE
73.6%
Liked This Beer
3.89 w/ 3,065 ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#6,954
Reviews:
1,336
Ratings:
3,065
Liked:
2,256
Avg:
3.89/5
pDev:
12.34%
Alströms:
3.81
 
 
Wants:
97
Gots:
448
Trade:
0
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Ratings: 3,065 |  Reviews: 1,336
Photo of fscottkey
3.89/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: [3.75] The bottle lists the ABV (7.6%) and there is a best by date (05/01/2017). Dark brown beer with lots of red highlights when back-lit. The beer has 1 finger of off white to tannish head. The head settles to 1/4 finger.

S: [3.50] Brown bread, slight booze, caramel, vegital scent.

T: [4.00] Caramel, cocoa, leather, vanilla cream.

M: [4.25] Smooth body. The cream taste is also a feel at the end. Good carbonation level and finish.

O: [4.00] Overall this tastes like a Scotch Ale mixed with vanilla. The creamy taste and feel set it apart and make it really nice. The biggest ding is the nose but the taste and body make up for that. This is a really enjoyable beer.

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Photo of SSGCujo
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Wasatch
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Deleted Review

12 oz. Bottle

Pours a very nice dark brown color, with some pretty nice carbonation, with a nice thick/creamy one-finger off-white head, which leaves some pretty nice sticky lacing behind. The nose is malty, yeasty, slight dark fruits. The taste is malty, yeasty, some dark fruits. Medium body. Overall, a very tasty brew.

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Photo of prost2hefeweizen
3.86/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of miwestcoaster
3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of BrentMcQuirk
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of FBarber
3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a reddish brown color. Complete clarity in the beer other than some carbonation bubbles. Thin off-white head dissipates quickly leaving just a ring of tan foam along the outside of the beer.

Smell has notes of bready malts, sweet dark fruits, strong malts and some mild earthy aromas - hops, but not a hop aroma per se.

Taste follows the nose with notes of bready malts, dark fruits, raisins, prunes, some mild earthy hops. Simple and straightforward but a solid example of the style.

Feel is a bit light for the style, but that makes it very easy drinking. Medium prickly carbonation. Smooth with a somewhat surprisingly drier finish.

Overall a very well done doppelbock. Not the best of the style, but a solid example.

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Photo of Hephaestos
4.13/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Photo of puck1225
3.82/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass. Dark frown color with a thin beige head, decent lacing. Subdued dark malt smell. The taste is wheat, dark toast,,chocolate and a hint of banana. Overall, pretty good!

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Photo of Satorn
3.67/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of dar482
4.07/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

The beer comes in a deep brown color, with a ring of creamy white head.

The beer offers a rich malt flavor, raisins and dried prunes, toasted bread crust, hints of light cocoa, an earthy bitterness to balance the sweetness. A clean lager finish that helps hollow out the Maillard flavors and sweetness offered up front. Mouthfeel is medium plus with a bit of tingly moderate carbonation.

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Photo of Klister
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of informaticsDoc
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of DallasK
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of MooseBoose
4.44/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of MeanMotaScootah
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

For the style this is a great doppelbock. It's not my favorite style of beer but definitely a great beer for cold winter night. Similar to a "winter warmer" without all the spice. The aroma is clearly sweet raisin sugar all malt no hops detected. Pours a deep brass - nearly opaque. Very little head and low carbonation so might be turned off by this but it does make for an "easier" drinking beer. Taste overall is dominated by sweet raisin, plum notes with lots of brown sugar. This almost reminds me of a Belgium ale but minus the spice. Bottom line if you dig German beers give this one a try, you won't be disappointed.

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Photo of duvel1979
2.5/5  rDev -35.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Photo of BeerAndFilm
3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Gregaroo
3.79/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

1-17-17 - on tap

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Photo of Yogi_Sanandy
4.28/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Eman17
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of KenMiller123
3.61/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I got this from Bev Mo, since I've been starting to discover and enjoy different types of German beers.

It reminds me of a stronger, darker version of Killian's Irish Red.

When you hold it up to the light, you can see through the glass, but just barely. If you do a hard pour, you'll get a little bit of a head, but it dissipates quickly.

The smell is definitely malt and yeast. The taste is like a drinkable version of a traditional King's Cake (Rosca de Reyes) served on Epiphany. It's not overly sweet, though, so if you don't know what a King's Cake is, don't let that scare you off.

The mouth feel is medium-bodied, somewhere between an ale and a stout, and this beer is very well carbonated.

It's a great beer for the holidays and would be excellent with a nice honey-baked ham and a sweet potato casserole.

Overall, it's not gonna blow your socks off, but it's very drinkable. It's not necessarily a session beer, with 7.6% abv, but I could sip on it all day and not get tired of the taste.

The coolest part is that this brewery has been in operation since the late 14th Century. It's owned by Anheiser Busch these days, but I think they still brew everything in the traditional manner. In that sense, it's like drinking a bit of history. Monks have been drinking this same beer for over 600 years! How cool is that?!

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Photo of VoxRationis
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Decanted from 12 oz (355 ml) bottle into a conical wine glass at the Modern Diner in Aquabogue, NY; best by 05/2018.
A: Pours a dark copper color with no more than a quarter inch head. Little retention and no lacing whatsoever.
S: Aromas of sweet maltiness, toast and chocolate.
T: Distinct flavors of molasses, caramel, and milk chocolate. Bitterness strong and a little out of balance.
M: Light to medium bodied. Somewhat watery with low carbonation.
O: An enjoyable doppelbock, but not top of the line for the style. Would have expected stronger aromas and flavors and fuller body and more robust carbonation.

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Photo of jg24rules
4.07/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of OompaMentor
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Beer rating: 73.6% out of 100 with 3,065 ratings
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