Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

BA SCORE
88
very good
3,059 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,059
Reviews:
1,334
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
12.31%
 
 
Wants:
96
Gots:
445
For Trade:
0
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Ratings: 3,059 |  Reviews: 1,334
Photo of Vinylboy20
3.92/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of mvanaskie13
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a custom shaped glass: color is dark amber, head is light tan with fine to small bubbles, no lacing.

Smell is mild malt, toast, as it warms some of the deeper aromas emerge - raisin, plum like notes.

Taste gets to the deep, sweeter malt flavor more caramel/toast/bread/raisin flavors noted; some fairly strong hop bitterness with subtle earthy/dry notes. This particular bottle seems to exemplify this brew - unfortunately the green bottles lead to some off noted flavors in some bottles.

Mouthfeel is a bit cloying, but expected for this brew and the malt presence.

Overall a malty, sweet doppelbock from a place that defines some styles of beers. Great bready/fruity presence and some moderate hop bitterness to boot.

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Photo of Marzen_Fan
3.87/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Acforster2
3.93/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of hman43
4.05/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Look: It pours brown with a brown head.

Smell: It has a very deep rich malt aroma.

Taste: There are flavors highlight by toast with some dark fruit. The flavors are sweet, rich and clean They feature toast, malts, and hints of dark fruits.

Feel: It has a full body that is smooth with some alcohol warming.

Overall this is a highly malted beer with little hops, but clean and flavorful.

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Photo of sokol_1993
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pour from a 330ml Optimator bottle.
Look: Dark brown, mahogany. With little head, but ample of lacing around the glass.
Smell: From opening the bottle, ample of molasses, sweet malty smell.
Taste: really sweet, full of molasses and malt. Caramel, raisiny. A bit of hoppiness, just a little to balance out the sweetness a bit.
Feel: full body, but a bit bland at the end.

Still an excellent brew, even though it's from a "macro" brewery.

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Photo of illini99
4.3/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Beerucee
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Aggie came kickoff
Love a dark German beer.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.4/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Brown in color, but still fairly penetrable to light. There's an inch of frothy and creamy brown head. The aroma is of caramel malt, Danish lager yeast, and a gentle German hop bitterness. The taste is a blend of caramel malt, Danish lager yeast, and a bit of skunk. The skunkiness faded as it warmed and I dug it much more and was getting toffee and more caramel. I don't taste the hops I could smell, though. I've kept the bottle refrigerated and in the dark, but it is nearly a year old. The mouth is a touch chewy and warm with alcohol.

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Photo of Chuckdiesel24
3.31/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of BrewskiBrandon
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of MonkeyBread
4.04/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of kkmiller76
3.86/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of lemmy187
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of MattMorin
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of teromous
3.64/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Imported and purchased from cold storage. the label on the back says "03 2017" which I presume is the best-by date.

Appearance: It appears black or a dark brown until held to some light where it shows beautiful mahogany red and brown. The head is an eggshell white color with a touch of light tan and a creamy texture. It starts out medium sized and slowly fades to a thin surface. Fair retention and lacing.

Aroma: There is a very light plum aroma mixed with a standard malt scent. The aroma is nice but very faint.

Taste: Toasted caramel with a rich malty backbone. It is just what you would expect from a Dopplebock but done very nicely and without any looming overtones of alcohol or oxidation.

Mouthfeel: It Is in that middle ground between being a sipper and a light drinker. It is easy to drink with a thin texture and a medium body but the flavor is rich enough to force you from drinking too much at one time. The texture actually feels a bit too thin and despite the short head it feels a bit over-carbonated as well.

Overall; I wouldn't call this my go-to Dopplebock but it is enjoying enough to drink. I don't know that I would recommend it off-the-cuff or that I would even buy it again but it is nice enough that I can enjoy the six pack I purchased. As an import it stood up nicely without any signs of oxidation.

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Photo of jwat
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of corywalston
3.43/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.75

Photo of Griphon
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Wisconsin_IPA_Lover
3.78/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of ClavisAurea
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of MattinIdaho
4.21/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of rodbeermunch
3/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Brown pour, lighter brown head 1/2". Plenty of nuts, aluminum, toffee and dark fruit in the aroma. Plenty of alcohol too.

Taste was a hotter less hoppy brown ale, thicker, stronger. A lot of that prune, fig and raisin thing with dark bitter roasted malt that isn't that thick actually. Not a fan of what the lager yeast brings here, just doesn't meld with heavy roasted malt. I found it to be hot, bitter, expired dark fruit, reminded me a little of triple bock.

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Photo of mdt88
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of cdub70085
4.32/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,059 ratings.
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