Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

very good
3,045 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator

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Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Your typical Dopplebock. Malty as hell! Strong aromas or roastedness, toastedness, caramelization, and molassas. Flavors are the same, but heavy on the barley malt and molassas flavors. Not cloying, but very sweet. Thrown in some chocolate and smoke subtleties. No hop bittering, flavor, or aroma. A bit nutty and woodsy. Uses dark grain for bitteriing. A thick viscocity to the mouth and palate. Finishes a bit alcoholic and lasting sweetness. Not the most well-rounded Dopplebock that I have had, still nice.

From the tap, this beer has a much more rounded flavor, balance, and softness than is exhibited from the bottle. The aromas are soft to the point that they are harder to detect. Flavors of the malts seem the range of confectionate sugar, cotton candy, or marshmellows. The malts, still rich, toasty, and fruity are delicate with a nice earthy hop bitterness. These are way too easy to throw back, compared to the bottle.

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500mL bottle (no dates or codes) poured into a weizen glass. Mahogany color w/ a 2-finger khaki head.

Aroma is sweet malt, spice, and some notes of ripe fruit.

Taste is dark sweet malt, ripe bananas and clove, with a slight toffee/caramel finish.

This is a good, solid doppelbock - sticky, sweet, but not cloying. Smooth mouthfeel.

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4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a custom shaped glass: color is dark amber, head is light tan with fine to small bubbles, no lacing.

Smell is mild malt, toast, as it warms some of the deeper aromas emerge - raisin, plum like notes.

Taste gets to the deep, sweeter malt flavor more caramel/toast/bread/raisin flavors noted; some fairly strong hop bitterness with subtle earthy/dry notes. This particular bottle seems to exemplify this brew - unfortunately the green bottles lead to some off noted flavors in some bottles.

Mouthfeel is a bit cloying, but expected for this brew and the malt presence.

Overall a malty, sweet doppelbock from a place that defines some styles of beers. Great bready/fruity presence and some moderate hop bitterness to boot.

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The aroma is quite distinctive-- something like stewed prunes and gummi worms, but I mean that as a compliment. Attractive brown-amber in the tulip glass. Very pleasant lacing and creamy mouthfeel. Quite sweet, like a malty pudding. Rich, warm flavors with lots of caramel. I hope it's from malted barley, but it's good. Hint of hops. Aftertaste of candy.

I wasn't expecting to like this as much. It grows on you if you like the sweet malty style. But I would say there are more interesting examples of Doppelbocks, including American-made versions, but for a widely-distributed major beer that actually makes the boat trip, it's a winner.

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4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours out a reddish brown with just a little head. Crisp malt aroma. Very sweet malty flavor, but a high crabonation prevents the beer from being cloying. The carbonation makes the beer seem spicy, which is very pleasant in this beer. It could almost be described as refreshing, which is interesting, given the style. A good once in a while beer for me.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.9 out of 5 based on 3,045 ratings.
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