Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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87
very good
3,053 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ratings:
3,053
Reviews:
1,333
Avg:
3.89
pDev:
12.34%
 
 
Wants:
97
Gots:
442
For Trade:
0
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Photo of JuicesFlowing
3.61/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a shaker pint glass.

Look: Ruby mahogany body. Cream colored head with decent retention and random lines of lacing.

Aroma: Caramel and toffee are skunked out by the green bottle.

Taste: A spicy, toffee-like body. But there is a green bottle skunk note that ruins this. Buttery caramel otherwise.

Mouthfeel: Creamy, slightly heavy.

Overall: I can't help but think this must be great on tap. Why do German brewers use green bottles?

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Photo of Chrily
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of WissBrauSean
4.24/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Green bottle beer! Yikes! Why? Anyway, this particular bottle exhibits no skunk aroma of flavor which is nice because it would detract from the profile.

I poured this beer cold into a tulip glass. Neither appropriate for the style, but you can't always have perfection. It poured a nice clear dark mahogany with a one finger tan head that quickly dissipated to a thin ring around the glass and very little lacing is noticeable.

The aroma is of sweet caramel malts and dark fruits with a tad of bread to it and maybe some honey and molasses. It's very pleasant.

The taste is of malted sweetness with molasses, dark fruit, some nice bread notes and a hint of cherry all pretty much apparent equally throughout the sip with the molasses lingering until the end where some mild bitter hops finish it all off with a bit o' black pepper. Alcohol is apparent in neither the nose or the taste. Well done!

The mouthfeel is sweet, almost syrupy, but not quite, the hops and moderate carbonation help to counter that. The body is generally full with maybe a little chewiness to it.

Overall this is an exceptional beer in my book. Why they risk putting it in a green bottle I have no clue. It may be too sweet for some, but that is the style. I like it a lot and if I were to detract any points it would be for the very faint head. I give it a solid 4 out of 5, maybe one notch higher. I am not happy about the ownership of the brewery and that destroys any chance of me buying it again.

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Photo of Bromine
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of ElijahRivera
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 5/9/2012. Pours fairly crystal clear dark reddish brown color with a nice 2 finger dense light khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with moderate streaming carbonation retaining the head. Aromas of caramel, raisin, apple, molasses, toffee, toast, brown bread, floral, brown sugar, light roasted malt, and earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of malt and fruity esters. Taste of caramel, raisin, apple, molasses, toffee, brown bread, toast, brown sugar, light floral, light roasted malt, and earthiness. Lingering notes of caramel, light fruits, molasses, toffee, brown bread, toast, and light roast on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of malt and fruity ester flavors; with nice robustness and zero cloying sweetness present after the finish. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a moderately slick and creamy mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with almost zero warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an excellent doppelbock. Very nice balance, robustness, and complexity of malt flavors; and very smooth to drink. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of BrownAleMale
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of civicm87
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of 2beerdogs
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of FlatRabbitRed
4.29/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Very good beer, bold body and flavor, will be going back for more!

Darker in color ... all the bocks I have had are darker, but I do understand there are lighter colored ones out there also.

Good balance of coffee and caramel notes, and not very heavy for 7.6 % ABV. Balanced well with the hops also, you really can't taste the hop character to much. Bocks seem to have a sweeter quality then a Porter ...(which I would probably get confused during a blind folded taste test) ..and this one works it well that way.

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Photo of TheMarkE
3.77/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Deep, dark amber with a very nice head and lacing.

Smell: Chocolate and dark roasted malts.

Taste: Chocolate, caramel, molasses, raisins and dates and other dark fruits.

Mouthfeel: Thick, with a slight bitter raisin aftertaste.

The Verdict: Not bad. It’s nowhere near the best doppelbock I’ve had, but I enjoyed it. Plenty of chocolaty goodness, this would pair perfectly with a chunk of gourmet cheese.

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Photo of ndaniel
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of bacasnax
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of artoolemomo
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

Photo of Simonh
5/5  rDev +28.5%

Photo of Bretttt
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

Photo of sanford_and_son
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

Photo of BGsWo22
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

Photo of gpawned
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of Lee_Hancock
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

Photo of Chucker17
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of lesslikemath
2.75/5  rDev -29.3%

Photo of FlemingVSKing
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

Photo of BlackHaddock
4.34/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

7 Feb in my room at The Fishermans Wharf Sheraton in San Fransisco, picked from some all night store round the corner. This beer is wonderful, even out of a plastic beaker!

Deep brown body with a creamy biege head.

The nose is malty sweet: roasted/toasted caramel, red berries, toffee and trees.

The taste is a lovely sweet malty molasses mix: too sweet for some maybe, but not for me, I loved it.

The body is rich and full, the alcohol just about noticeable within the flavours.

A true classic.

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Photo of Auraan
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.89 out of 5 based on 3,053 ratings.
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