Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
BA SCORE
3.89/5
3,067 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#7,064
Reviews:
1,338
Ratings:
3,067
pDev:
12.34%
Bros Score:
3.81
 
 
Wants:
97
Gots:
451
Trade:
0
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Ratings: 3,067 |  Reviews: 1,338
Photo of jg24rules
4.07/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of OompaMentor
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Superheatnsubcool
4.04/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of sweemzander
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of zshaft
3.61/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

not really a fan of this style but this was good. once you get used to the malt this beer gets pretty good with notes of dark fruit and bread with a nice clean finish. def a sipper for me but the representation of the style seems spot on. great color. nose is not for me. flavor profile is actually really nice if you enjoy it rather than pound it. won't get again cause im an ipa guy but wouldn't turn down if offered. glad I tried it.

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Photo of Lucoli
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Dinglehacker
4.03/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap, served in a mug. Massive head. Dull ruby color with little light.

Smells like chlorine and sweetness.

Tastes sweet, notes of red licorice, molasses sweetbread, plum. No evident hops.

Medium bodied mouth.

The sudsy smell promised disappointment, but the flavor delivered a typical, exemplary doppelbock. Not the best, but not a weaker example.

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Photo of singletary
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

It pours a rich dark brown with light brown head. The aroma is of roasted malts with the taste of deep malts with a sweetness to it. Overall it is a deep rich doppelbock.

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Photo of Thebarmisfit
4.38/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Vinylboy20
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of mvanaskie13
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a custom shaped glass: color is dark amber, head is light tan with fine to small bubbles, no lacing.

Smell is mild malt, toast, as it warms some of the deeper aromas emerge - raisin, plum like notes.

Taste gets to the deep, sweeter malt flavor more caramel/toast/bread/raisin flavors noted; some fairly strong hop bitterness with subtle earthy/dry notes. This particular bottle seems to exemplify this brew - unfortunately the green bottles lead to some off noted flavors in some bottles.

Mouthfeel is a bit cloying, but expected for this brew and the malt presence.

Overall a malty, sweet doppelbock from a place that defines some styles of beers. Great bready/fruity presence and some moderate hop bitterness to boot.

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Photo of Marzen_Fan
3.87/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Acforster2
3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of hman43
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Look: It pours brown with a brown head.

Smell: It has a very deep rich malt aroma.

Taste: There are flavors highlight by toast with some dark fruit. The flavors are sweet, rich and clean They feature toast, malts, and hints of dark fruits.

Feel: It has a full body that is smooth with some alcohol warming.

Overall this is a highly malted beer with little hops, but clean and flavorful.

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Photo of sokol_1993
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pour from a 330ml Optimator bottle.
Look: Dark brown, mahogany. With little head, but ample of lacing around the glass.
Smell: From opening the bottle, ample of molasses, sweet malty smell.
Taste: really sweet, full of molasses and malt. Caramel, raisiny. A bit of hoppiness, just a little to balance out the sweetness a bit.
Feel: full body, but a bit bland at the end.

Still an excellent brew, even though it's from a "macro" brewery.

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Photo of illini99
4.3/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Beerucee
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Aggie came kickoff
Love a dark German beer.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.4/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Brown in color, but still fairly penetrable to light. There's an inch of frothy and creamy brown head. The aroma is of caramel malt, Danish lager yeast, and a gentle German hop bitterness. The taste is a blend of caramel malt, Danish lager yeast, and a bit of skunk. The skunkiness faded as it warmed and I dug it much more and was getting toffee and more caramel. I don't taste the hops I could smell, though. I've kept the bottle refrigerated and in the dark, but it is nearly a year old. The mouth is a touch chewy and warm with alcohol.

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Photo of Chuckdiesel24
3.31/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of BrewskiBrandon
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of MonkeyBread
4.04/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of kkmiller76
3.86/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of lemmy187
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of MattMorin
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of teromous
3.64/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Imported and purchased from cold storage. the label on the back says "03 2017" which I presume is the best-by date.

Appearance: It appears black or a dark brown until held to some light where it shows beautiful mahogany red and brown. The head is an eggshell white color with a touch of light tan and a creamy texture. It starts out medium sized and slowly fades to a thin surface. Fair retention and lacing.

Aroma: There is a very light plum aroma mixed with a standard malt scent. The aroma is nice but very faint.

Taste: Toasted caramel with a rich malty backbone. It is just what you would expect from a Dopplebock but done very nicely and without any looming overtones of alcohol or oxidation.

Mouthfeel: It Is in that middle ground between being a sipper and a light drinker. It is easy to drink with a thin texture and a medium body but the flavor is rich enough to force you from drinking too much at one time. The texture actually feels a bit too thin and despite the short head it feels a bit over-carbonated as well.

Overall; I wouldn't call this my go-to Dopplebock but it is enjoying enough to drink. I don't know that I would recommend it off-the-cuff or that I would even buy it again but it is nice enough that I can enjoy the six pack I purchased. As an import it stood up nicely without any signs of oxidation.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Beer rating: 3.89 out of 5 with 3,067 ratings
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