Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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3.89/5
Very Good
3,087 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany
franziskaner-weissbier.de

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#7,674
Reviews:
1,345
Ratings:
3,087
pDev:
12.34%
Bros Score:
3.81
 
 
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look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Everybody knows that beer tastes better on tap that out of a bottle, and I couldn’t think of a better example than the Optimator. I also had this beer at Schnitzel’s Tavern in Bellefonte, PA, a German restaurant that knows how to pour a beer.

This doppelbock is a very dark, slightly-reddish brown beer with a small to medium sized off-white head that mostly diminished except for a thin layer that lingered for most of the way down and left a decent amount of lacing. Aroma is heavy of roasted malts and a caramel sweetness, which I’m a sucker for, but it was also slightly fruity. Taste follows suit, being dominated by the sweetness of the roasted malts, but there was also a light hops presence and a hint of grape or currant. The finish is wonderful and lingering with a nice hops kick and a little alcohol. The mouthfeel is thick and creamy with low to average carbonation. I adore this beer and think there almost needs to be separate ratings for bottle and draught. I'd give it a 5 for taste if only it tasted consistently as good as it does at Schnitzel's.

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look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

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look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A beer not for the feint of heart.

It's a very dark brown, opaque. There's just a litle bit of brown visible at the lower edges of the glass. The aroma was pequliar, sort of a cherry, not strong but not definitive. The taste was the same light cherry with possible mollases added in. The body was heavy but not offensive. If you are going for a heavy beer, this one is a good choice. However; I would not recommend getting a boot full of this at Hessen Haus.

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look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep, deep amber with a dark tan collar of tightly knit sturdy foam with a half-life of three minutes. Clarity is very nice and lacing minimal.

Nose is robust earthy, roasted malts with a cloying sweetness.

Entry is solid and forceful, showing a palate-pleasing mouthfeel. Midtaste is malty sweet showing a depth of at least five malt varieties. The finish show a soft roastiness with little hop presence.

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3.65/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Clear mahogany brown and only a slight amount of head that vanishes quickly. No bubbles in site after a minute or two. Light nose with only faint aromas of nutty toasted malts. Some fruitiness and alcohol as well. Flavor is rich sweetness and dark bakers chocolate. Finishes with a dark fruity and alcohol burn in the nose. Sweet candied tingle on the tongue at first but as the beer warms the alcohol because extremely present and almost pungent after you swallow. Thick and smooth body but that changes towards the end of the glass.

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3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Gave a hard pour inot my New Belgium goblet...looks like a coke...decent off white head that disapates quickly...not much lacing to speak of.

A light hint of dark fruits...pretty buried though. i wanted more.

Very light taste of dark fruits, plum...some sweetness, not overbearing; a bit too subdued. Again, I wanted a bit more boldness, but good nonetheless.

A tad thin...but vey smooth.

Quite drinkable...an easy drinking, refreshing doppelbock...hides alcohol very well. I'd say this is a beer anyone could handle and go back to again.

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look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful color, tight lacy head. Initially very sweet, balances out towards a tasty, toasty finish that lingers. Deceptively strong; don't let the malts bury you. This is not a beer to be taken lightly. This is a beer for sitting down and enjoying. A great way to ring in warmer spring weather. My only quibble is the green bottle. Fortunately this beer is sturdy enough that it's not much of an issue.

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3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a single at Riley's here in Madison.

Pours a dark mahogany brown with a nice frothy off-white head, some lacing. Smell is grainy malts and with some caramel/toffee and hoppy notes. Taste mimics the nose, a nice if not unexceptional balance of malt and hops. Mouthfeel is bubbly and crisp, refreshing. Quite drinkable for 7.2%. I could tip a few of these back for sure.

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4.3/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Strong caramel smell with deep dark amber look. Pale head with good retention. The caramel keeps coming when you taste. Malty sweetness with hints of roasted coffee beans. Lots of complex flavor. Smooth silk mouth but there is also lots of sparkle on the tongue. the aftertaste is slightly nutty. Very good brew for the cool/cold nights in fall or winter.

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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy dark color, very malty profile in the head and aroma. Taste is dark, somewhat sour malts come through, a hint of licorice, finishes dry not that smooth. Alcoholic but well hidden, very balanced and flavors do not muddle, overall a solid beer.

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look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Dark brown with maybe a little red. Looks clear, but hard to tell with beer as dark as this. Thin tan persistent head.

Smell - Strong dark malt aroma. Prominent molasses, maybe caramel scent. I don't notice any hoppiness. Smells tasty.

Taste - Strong dark malt flavor. Molasses, raisin, toast flavors. Little hops. A little alcohol warming. Tasty and interesting.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full.

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3.38/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a deep amber-brown color with a thick tan head. Lots of lacing left on the glass. Aroma seems quite sweet with some maltiness and tart fruitiness. A sharp tart dark fruity taste mixed in with some roasted malts and sweet sugary notes. A little sour in the finish. Not bad.

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4.56/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Deep ruby in color, with a torrent of carbonation. Topped by a massive, creamy light tan head. This is quite persistent and lends a nice creaminess to the whole drink.

Rich, slightly toasty toffee-like malt aroma.

Flavor starts with a hint of tang, but quickly settles down to a smooth, rich, caramel malt. Something of a one-note beer, but what a note it is! Medium-bodied. Incredibly smooth, and not a bit cloying. This is amazingly drinkable for something this sweet. A classic.

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4.06/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in a tumbler

A: pours a very deep brown non translucent color with a thin amount of creamy brown head that dissipates quickly, leaves a small amount of lacing

S: nice deep scent with nice caramel notes

T: very nice deep caramelly malt flavors backed by a slight sweetness that helps it to finish smoother

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4.32/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The Optimator pours a deep dark brown with some red. Small head dissapates to almost nothing...a very thin ring of foam remains. Aroma is sweet and malty. Taste is of sweet caramel, fruity plums and cherries, huge malty goodness, a little roasted flavor, and a hint of warm alcohol. Mouthfeel is great, feels like a full bodied strong brew. For a doppelbock, and especially considering the ABV, I consider this a highly drinkable brew. No flavor is overwhelming, and the alcohol is well hidden. I wish there was a bigger head on this brew, but other than that I loved it. Germans do know how to brew!

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A- Pours a fluffy 2 finger light tan head, the body is a mahogany brown color with no sediment. As it recedes, nice lacing is present.

S- Dark chocolate, caramel, toffee, dark fruits

T- Starts out with a creamy dark chocolate, toffee, some dark fruit and some dryness on the finish.

M- Nice smooth creamy feel. Low carbonation.

D- A pretty decent bock here. Alc is hidden is hidden well. There isn't a ton to it, but I'd probably drink it again if offered.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Beer rating: 3.89 out of 5 with 3,087 ratings
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