Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

very good
3,053 Ratings
Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator

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Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Photo of arlingtonjoe
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of Pellinore1
5/5  rDev +28.5%

Photo of vidisad
3.63/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of BigPlay1824
4.06/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in a tumbler

A: pours a very deep brown non translucent color with a thin amount of creamy brown head that dissipates quickly, leaves a small amount of lacing

S: nice deep scent with nice caramel notes

T: very nice deep caramelly malt flavors backed by a slight sweetness that helps it to finish smoother

D/M: beautifully smooth drinking especially for a dopplebock, drinks much lighter than expected and yet still has a great depth of flavor that really makes it an enticing brew

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Photo of ILiveOffHops
4.32/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The Optimator pours a deep dark brown with some red. Small head dissapates to almost nothing...a very thin ring of foam remains. Aroma is sweet and malty. Taste is of sweet caramel, fruity plums and cherries, huge malty goodness, a little roasted flavor, and a hint of warm alcohol. Mouthfeel is great, feels like a full bodied strong brew. For a doppelbock, and especially considering the ABV, I consider this a highly drinkable brew. No flavor is overwhelming, and the alcohol is well hidden. I wish there was a bigger head on this brew, but other than that I loved it. Germans do know how to brew!

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Photo of Greggy
4.03/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pours a fluffy 2 finger light tan head, the body is a mahogany brown color with no sediment. As it recedes, nice lacing is present.

S- Dark chocolate, caramel, toffee, dark fruits

T- Starts out with a creamy dark chocolate, toffee, some dark fruit and some dryness on the finish.

M- Nice smooth creamy feel. Low carbonation.

D- A pretty decent bock here. Alc is hidden is hidden well. There isn't a ton to it, but I'd probably drink it again if offered.

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Photo of bh123
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of philipquarles
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a clear dark brown with a medium off-white head that dissipates to nothing.

Smells of sweet dark malt, plain and simple. This carries on to the taste. Slightly sweeter and less complex than some comparable beers, but certainly not bad.

Overall, a very drinkable doppelbock, but not one I'll spring for again if I have a choice.

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Photo of acevenom
4.72/5  rDev +21.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a 1 pint 0.9 ounce bottle into a 22 ounce brandy snifter. Pours dark brown with a dissipating tan head that leaves some lacing. The smell is of sweet dark roasted malts and a bit of caramel. There's maybe a bit of fig in the smell. The taste is of lightly sweet malt, fig, caramel, a little bit of bitterness on the back end. It's not cloyingly sweet and the ABV is not noticeable. The mouthfeel is full and the flavors linger in the mouth, but it is very pleasant. The carbonation is well done. Overall, this is an excellent beer and is still one of my favorites.

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Photo of beergod1
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep ruby/brown pour with a medium foamy head that sticks around a while. Aroma of sweet roasty caramel malt and light sweet fruitiness. Flavor is the same. Loads of roasty malt and hints of Caramel. A bit of alcohol bite on the finish, but not enough to be distracting, still smooooth. Body needs to be a bit heavier. Not the Best Doppel Bock....But this is well worth it. Thanx Doug K.

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Photo of obrike
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Gave a hard pour inot my New Belgium goblet...looks like a coke...decent off white head that disapates quickly...not much lacing to speak of.

A light hint of dark fruits...pretty buried though. i wanted more.

Very light taste of dark fruits, plum...some sweetness, not overbearing; a bit too subdued. Again, I wanted a bit more boldness, but good nonetheless.

A tad thin...but vey smooth.

Quite easy drinking, refreshing doppelbock...hides alcohol very well. I'd say this is a beer anyone could handle and go back to again.

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Photo of KFrank729
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

Photo of nhirsch04
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of Jack_Frost79
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of jcalabre
3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Originally sampled on 1 March 2003. I am writing this review from my notes. draught: This pours a dark brown color. The body is a lot lighter than I expected. It has a lots of malty, roasty flavors. it's a very nice beer, enjoyable, but not outstanding in my opinion.

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Photo of Peyton5410
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of Beefytits4
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of Lagerquestrian
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of scaliasux
4.09/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Dark brown with maybe a little red. Looks clear, but hard to tell with beer as dark as this. Thin tan persistent head.

Smell - Strong dark malt aroma. Prominent molasses, maybe caramel scent. I don't notice any hoppiness. Smells tasty.

Taste - Strong dark malt flavor. Molasses, raisin, toast flavors. Little hops. A little alcohol warming. Tasty and interesting.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full.

Drinkability - I'm a doppelbock lover and this is a fine doppelbock. It has a nice interesting full flavor like a doppelbock should have and plenty of alcohol so you don't drink too many.

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Photo of DoctorDog
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12oz bottle into a glass mug. This brew courtesy of the old man.

A- Dark reddish/brown with ruby edges. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head. Head dwindles slowly to a thin, incomplete cap. Minimal lacing

S- Extremely nutty and slightly metallic. Bready, caramel sweetness begins to emerge as the head settles.

T- Very sweet and malty. Raisiny notes mingle with molasses and coffee. Charred caramel bitterness on the finish.

M- Slightly low carbonation- a tad under-carbonated IMO. Medium-full feeling, and slightly syrupy.

D- Solid. Pleasing flavor and easy drinking.

Future outlook: Good, if unspectacular beer. I won't seek it out, but I won't run if handed another one of these.

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Photo of jakewatt135
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of soulcougher
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of Hoagie1973
3.48/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours chestnut brown with a 2 finger noisy head. Head settles but doesn't disappear completely. Not a whole lot in the way of lacing.
Smells sweet & malty with a hint of earthiness.
Tastes rich, sweet & malty with brown sugar/molasses, dark fruits, nuts, and a bit of alcohol. Medium to full body with slightly sharp carbonation. Finishes a little sticky and syrupy.
Not a bad dopplebock overall, especially for the price. Solid, but nothing special. I would buy it again.

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Photo of stoutman
4.07/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasty and packs a punch. A beer worthy of respect. Nice smell and color. Excellent malt flavor with a near perfect hop finish.

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Photo of homebrewhawk
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

.5 liter brown bottle. Poured a clear reddish brown with about a finger of off white head. Huge malt aroma with some dark sugar and a little bit of noble hops. Fully bodied thick with malt. A pretty good amount of noble hop bitterness to balance the malt. Alcohol is evident in the finish. Good example of the style. Goes down a little too easy at 7.2% abv!

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
3.89 out of 5 based on 3,053 ratings.
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