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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier | Arbor Brewing Company

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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt BierArbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier

Brewed by:
Arbor Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Altbier

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 07-26-2002

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Ratings: 89 |  Reviews: 56
Photo of tatoodkelt
3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked this one up when I was in MI for a wedding last month.

Consumed 8/10/2009- from notes.

Brown 12oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A- Very dark brown with a HUGE almond colored head. Didnt expect that. Had to wait and pour a couple of times. Great retention and lacing.

S- A little roasty, caramel and bakers chocolate.

T- Caramel, chocolate and something that may be dark dried berries. I was surprised to find the smoky porter like notes in there too.

M- Medium bodied, smooth and decent carbination.

D- Very easy to drink, makes me wish I had picked up more than one since I wont be back up there any time soon.

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Photo of KBomb
2.61/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Very nice appearance, but looks can be deceiving. Smell is faint; a little sweetness and maybe a hint of Riesling. I'm dumbfounded at the lack of flavor considering the appearance and smell. Nothing really offensive to the taste, but quite bland. Very little maltiness, a tiny hint of fruit sweetness, but mostly with high carbonation I could almost mistake this for club soda--very watery. Moderately light, if you had no desire for flavor you could drink a few of these, but I'm afraid I'd die of boredom first.

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Photo of ElGrecoVerde
2.51/5  rDev -28.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Maybe it's just the style that I don't like, but there's a bunch of off flavors in the beer that just don't seem to work together. Nice looking beer with a deep brown color and lighter brown head. Aroma is just hard to place, as if it's masked.

Starts off well enough, with some dark fruit flavors and toasted chocolates. But there's a smoky flavor lingering there that doesn't do it to me. It's more "ash-tray" than it is "campfire". There's not much to balance it out in the end and comes up feeling flat.

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Photo of Bung
3.74/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle. Rather opaque black pour into the tulip. Huge off white head, had to pour and wait a couple times. Burnt malt and toast aromas, but rather light. Lively mouthfeel, light medium body. Burnt malt taste with hints of dark chocolate. Subdued hop presence. Very, very clean, but maybe just a bit overcarbonated. If not for the carbonation I would say this is extreamly drinkable, but as such is just good drinkability. A very interesting and unique alt.

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Photo of brewcrew76
3.95/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to emerge077 for sharing this one.

A - Dark brown with ruby highlights when held to the light and a thin tan head. Much darker than any altbier I have seen.

S - Light aroma of chocolate, caramel and roasted malt. Maybe some dark fruits mixed in.

T - Bakers chocolate and roasted malts upfront followed by bready, bicuity caramel malts.

M - Thin and watery with a lingering dryness.

D - A little more chocolate and roast than other alts I have had but I like it.

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Photo of emerge077
4.07/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark mahogany into black, a swirl of foam that caps it off, then it fades to a ring and a broken skim. Faint fried plantain fades into roasty malt and bitter dry bakers chocolate aroma. Ashy roast malt, thin and dry, with bold cacao, earthy tobacco, and bitter chocolate. A touch more body would make a huge improvement. As it stands, it's very drinkable and above all tasty.

Thanks to TheBlackMallard for the tip on this one!

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Photo of hopdog
3.45/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I had this one n tap at the Arbor Brew Pub.

Poured a dark brown color with a small sized off white head. Aromas of nuts, light smoke, roast and some dark fruits. Tastes of nuts, roast, and some caramel. On the malty sweet side.

Notes from 05/06/06.

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Photo of eberkman
2.16/5  rDev -38.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Pours a very pretty, dark, hazy mahogany with a thick tan head with great staying power. Not what I expect an altbier to generally look like, but still a nice-looking brew. Then everything goes to crap.

A nose of overpowering sticky-sweet caramel malts balanced by nothing but the odd stench of Gerber's strained vegetables.

The maltiness in the taste is largely a pruniness accompanied by a bizarre green-olive taste, with an astringent bitterness in the finish. Yuck.

Mouthfeel is decent -- full-bodied with moderate carbonation. But not particularly drinkable due to the strange flavor/aroma combination.

The whole experience kind of matches my other current experience of watching Lieberman's speech.

Then again, maybe it's just a bad bottle because I don't remember reacting this way to another one I had a few days ago (albeit with a largely shot palate after a couple of DIPAs).

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Photo of tempest
3.11/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Picked up a single at Bello Vino for $1.69

This is a dark brown alt, but I guess it doesn't always have to be amber-colored. The aroma and flavor were both a bit disappointing. I just pulled a deep caramel sweetness, without much other complexity. The body was balanced and drinkable, but the flavor wasn't compelling enough to try this again.

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Photo of jeremyd365
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first altbier. Poured a very dark, chocolatey brown with a thick tan head. Smells strongly of a pleasant maltiness with perhaps some sort of slight smokiness or chocolatey. The flavor is a great combination of chocolate and malt. It's moderately carbonated and medium-bodied. A quite enjoyable beer that I would definitely recommend--and I would now also like to try it on tap!

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Photo of skiboy
3.68/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Found this to be a great little beer for a summertime cooler. Was a little surprised how cold it was served on tap (at several different locations). Looks great in the glass with a light colored head resting atop a very dark brown beer. Medium carbonation and a crisp maltiness, and not very hoppy. Very drinkable with a modest alcohol content.

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Photo of GbVDave
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a 20oz imperial pint. Thanks to HeatherAnn for the assist!

A: Pours a dark, cola-brown with redness at the edges. Capping this is a creamy, light-khaki head that quickly turns into a thick and bubbly ring and leaves some decent lace in the glass.

S: Aromas of chocolate, roasted malt, floral hops, tart berry, and a touch of smoke.

T: See above. Slightly soapy. Notes of caramel and toffee and a kiss of chocolate. Slightly tart at the finish.

M: Thin and tangy. Nice dry roastiness.

D: Interesting and pretty damn refreshing. Could use a little more chocolate malt to offset the tart tanginess.

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Photo of Roeters
3.66/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: Deep dark brown with a slim light brown head

S: Average old style ale nothing very exciting

T: Great slightly yeasty taste, with good body

M: A normal beer nothing very exciting

D: This is a beer that you could sit and drink a few, very easy going down.

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Photo of gordavidson
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark leathery brown. A little murky. The head is small and has very little retention.

S- Lots of raisins and some vinnegar. Some caramel and earthiness. A little smoky.

T- Sweet and sour with some raisin and smoke. Interesting, but I'm not crazy about it.

M- Very dry on the end. The sourness is fine, but this seems almost too clean and buttery.

D- Overall, this was a very interesting beer, but I do not see this being a session beer or me indulging in this again...

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Photo of Beaver13
2.93/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle. Pours brown with a creamy off white head that retains and laces the glass.

The aroma is sweet sugary caramel and dark fruits

The flavor is is yeasty with some chocolate malt and some fruit. It has some acidic plastic and metallic bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and slightly watery.

Overall, it kind of reminds me of Jolly Pumpkin's Bam Noire, but not as good.

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Photo of BMoney575
3.37/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Sampled on 4-27-08

Pours a super deep brown, with a little bit of red mixed in. A huge, off-white head sits on top, leaving the thickest lacing I've ever seen.

Smell is subtle, malty and smoky.

Taste is sweet, almost sour at first, with a smoky middle to even things out. Very different.

Mouthfeel is good, smooth and thick.

Drinkability suffers from the odd combination of sour and smoky.

Overall, a different kind of beer. Good, but very hard to place.

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Photo of robbyc1
3.31/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown pour, not much head, not much nose, but deep malt, that is what this style is mostly about, eh? Thanks to Hophobo for providing it as an extra, not much depth, but a nice solid brew. Not sweet, no hops, just solid malt, good mouthfeel and very drinkable, just not one to seek out unless all you see are macros around, probably only around Ann Arbor/Detroit, nice but move on.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.83/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I picked this up in Detroit a couple weeks ago, and it's been chilling on deck for about a week. I poured it into a Sam Adams glass, and it filled to the top with poofy tan foam. The liquid itself was very dark, mush darker than other alts I've tried. The aroma was off in my opinion, a little fruity and a little acidy-sour. Same with the taste, it had some off-flavors I didn't think matched the beer style. I won't try it again.

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Photo of enfield249
3.73/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours dark brown, opaque, with a medium ring of foam around the edge.

S - Can't get much off of this. Some prunes, maybe?

T - Really nice sweetness, followed by some sourness, fades to some roast, and then a cinder flavor.

M - Full, with some sharpness from the carbonation. Leaves my tongue wet feeling.

D - I could drink this a lot. A very nice beer.

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Photo of Monkeyknife
3.06/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle a deep, dark black with a meringue-like tan head and beautiful lacing.

The aromas of sweet roasted malts and raisins is present but very subtle.

The taste is a cherry sourness up front while finishing with roasted malts and coffee. The malts seems almost watered-down compared to the sourness.

Medium mouthfeel and mildly carbonated.

The balance seems off on this one. The sour cherriness upfront is just too much.

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Photo of Viggo
3.6/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Lexx picked this one up in Michigan.

Pours a cloudy copper brown, quite opaque, loose tan head forms, big bubbles, settles to a thin ring and layer, few lace spots. Smell is neat, iron, caramel, roast, chocolate, bit of coffee, very clean aroma, maybe too clean, some bread, dark fruits, interesting. Taste is kind of bland and watery, some caramel and chocolate, bread, roast coffee, not much else, but a bit buttery. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation, pretty smooth. Easy to drink but the flavour dies. Thanks Lexx!

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Photo of zdk9
3.32/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- Pours with abundant carbonation- 2 full fingers of head that is light cocoa over a black unhighlightable brew. Some speckled lacing.

S- Strong coffee aroma with perhaps a touch of brown sugar and raisin.

T- Strong coffee taste, some dark malt backbone to it. HOps are peeking at the edges but hard to identify.

M- High carbonation, to a sharp level.

D- Ok I suppose, but this tastes like a maltier porter, which is singlulary coffee flavored.

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Photo of soupyman10
3.39/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown with an excellent light tan head that billows and floats for minutes. Nose is mild, some light spiciness and sweet malt. Flavor is interesting. Surprisingly sour; this is my first alt, but there wasn't anything in the description about sourness. In any case, there's a fair bit of roasted molasses, light astringency, some light fruit. Fairly well balanced in terms of malt and hops. Feel is alright, medium body, maybe a little light on the carbonation. This one isn't bad, although it's the first alt I've had, so I don't really have a lot to compare it to. The sourness was a bit of a surprise, but overall, it's drinkable.

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Photo of jp32
3.55/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a molasses black with golden brown hints when held to the light. No head at all.

Rich and roasty smell, very malty. Hints of nutmeg and brown sugar.

The taste is also quite roasty. Awesomely malty flavor here. A bit herbal and organic tasting as well.

THe mouthfeel is medium-bodied or slightly bigger. Smooth and low on carbonation. Great drinkability for the amount of flavor in this one.

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Photo of Mitchster
1.34/5  rDev -61.7%
look: 5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

12 oz bottle. Brewed and bottled by the Corner Brewer LLC. Not brewed on premises? Opens with a vigorous whoosh and despite a gentle decant, foams up quickly, forming a meringue-like light tan head which peaks out of the glass about 2 inches, and leaving sticky gobs of foam on the glass as it recedes. Cloudy mahogany, near black. Aroma of burnt grain, kiwi fruit, an awful amount of metals and acid. Mouthfeel is biting with a medium body. Taste begins with left over coffee grounds, followed by a strong green kiwi fruit presence with associated acidity, dirty pennies in vinegar, an acrid bitterness and a sharp biting sourness. This brew is obviously infected.

What is it with breweries in Ann Arbor? Frog Island, Leopold Brothers, and this brewery all have nasty infected products. Don't the brewers drink what they sell? How could they let this go out on the shelves? This is the furthest thing from an Alt I've ever had. A disaster. Down the drain it goes.

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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier from Arbor Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.5 out of 5 with 89 ratings
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