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Brewed by:
Arbor Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
arborbrewing.com

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Arbor Brewing Company is proud to offer this exclusive, limited-edition, hand-packaged and bottle-conditioned ale in the Belgian Aged Pale tradition. Our interpretation of this rare Belgian style was created by aging our Larry Hoppe Double IPA for six months in gueuze-innoculated oak casks and then bottle conditioning for a minimum of two months.

Added by TurdFurgison on 09-16-2010

BEER STATS
Ratings:
61
Reviews:
17
Avg:
3.86
pDev:
11.92%
 
 
Wants:
3
Gots:
10
For Trade:
0
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Photo of GRG1313
3.83/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Texasfan549
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of kjkinsey
4/5  rDev +3.6%

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, 2014 vintage bottling. Pours lightly hazy deep orange amber color with a 2 finger dense off white head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big tart cherry, green apple, lemon peel, tangerine, pineapple, red wine, oak, hay, straw, grass, light pine, leather, musty funk, light pepper, light vinegar, and yeast/oak earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good complexity and balance of fruity/funky yeast, hops, and oak barrel notes; with good strength. Taste of tart cherry, green apple, lemon peel, tangerine, pineapple, red wine, oak, hay, straw, grass, light pine, leather, toast, musty funk, light pepper, light vinegar, and yeast/oak earthiness. Good amount of fruity/oaky tartness and slight bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of tart cherry, green apple, lemon peel, tangerine, pineapple, red wine, oak, hay, straw, grass, light pine, leather, toast, musty funk, light pepper, light vinegar, and yeast/oak earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice complexity and balance of fruity/funky yeast, oak barrel, and hop flavors; with a great malt/tartness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a very smooth, moderately acidic, and slightly slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Sour DIPA. All around good complexity and balance of fruity/funky yeast, oak, and hop flavors; and very smooth to sip on for the ABV with the balanced acidity. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of mothman
3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into chalice.

Pours 1/4 finger of white head. Decent retention with some lacing. Color is a clear peach hued orange.

Aroma: Big brett funk. Floral notes with medicinal flavors. Grassy. Has a light fruity flavor. Very odd.

Taste: Big fresh grass flavor. A lot of brett and medicinal funk. A bit fruity, but more funky. Some oak. I can't really figure this one out.

Mouthfeel: Funky, a bit sour, but not bitter. Lighter bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends dry with medicinal notes.

Overall, this was an interesting beer. I would have never guessed it to be an ipa. A lot of funk with this beer. Not bad, but not your traditional awa.

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3.84/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of mklisz
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of MasterSki
3.65/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to TurdFurgison for sharing this oddity at the Beelzebeer release event at Flossmoor. Served in a pint glass.

A - Pours with a finger of tan foam that shows good retention and leaves behind spotty lace specks. The body is a murky brown-orange. This is apparently more carbonated than the other bottle Eric had.

S - Spicy wood, very oaky and tannic, some apple juice, vanilla, light funky brett. There's some residual IPA malt bill, as well as a touch of faded hops.

T - Taste is charred and spiced wood, apple juice, and sweet vanilla at the back end. Eric states in his review that the barrels may previously have held gueuze, but there's so much wood character and hints of bourbon that make this hard for me to believe - generally lambic barrels impart minimal oak character and are re-used dozens of time.

M - Low carbonation, medium body, no heat, with some dryness in the finish. Texture is quite nice and satisfying.

D - I had a few pours of this one. It's a solid effort, although I'm not entirely convinced that an IPA is the right choice for a wild ale base beer (although Amigo Lager seems to work quite well). I'd be interested to see how this shapes up as the IPA flavors fade, but it's still too woody and tannic to be an unqualified success for me.

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4/5  rDev +3.6%

Photo of Mora2000
4.2/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to bu11zeye for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours an orange color with a white head. The aroma is full of toffee with some tart cherry notes. The beer smells fairly sour. The flavor has quite a bit of funk to it, but there is also some sour cherry notes. The main malt component to the flavor is toffee. I get a lot of oak and also a little bit of pineapple and orange citrus notes, presumably from the IPA's hops. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. An interesting beer, but I really liked it.

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4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

Photo of Gueuzedude
4.23/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled June 2011
This one has sat in the back of the fridge for a little while; I have definitely been a bit of wimp on this one, a sour IPA, hmm….

As has become habit for this brewery, the cork on this beer was a complete PITA to remove. A steady pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a scant, quarter-finger thick, pale tan tinged head. The beer is a pretty, red-amber color that shows a brilliantly clear, richly bright amber hue when held up to the light. Weird, the aroma smells of herbal and plastic like notes. A bit more digging reveals some citrusy hop components. The hops are definitely the dominant note in the aroma, but they are seriously influenced by something else; this is clearly not a “regular” IPA. In fact much of the other character is actually spicy oak and woody notes; now that I have distinguished the oak from the herbal hop character I am realizing that it is almost on an equal footing with the hop notes (though not quite).

Up front the beer tastes sour and citrusy, it still has a touch of sweet maltiness to it, though only just a hint. The first part of my sip is actually quite clean and interesting. As the beer rolls across the tongue it gets a touch less integrated, the sourness and hops begin to clash a little bit more, though not nearly as much as I was fearing. The finish reminds me of grapefruit like hop notes, a solid bitterness (though this is much reduced compared to a standard IPA), and a lightly lingering sourness. The sourness is more prominent up front and especially in the middle of each sip, while the hop character seems to be most noticeable towards the finish. This still has a fair amount of body to it, and it has a bit more carbonation than the scant head suggested; while this is not a heavy beer, it has some viscousness to it and doesn’t come off as watered down in any way. The barrel / oak character isn’t quite as noticeable as it was in the aroma, but it is definitely still here with fresh cut woody notes, some spiciness that leans towards woody pepper and higher alcohol like spice (sort of what is found in Bourbon). The sourness here is not so aggressive that it overwhelms / unbalances the hop / oak combination, and the fact that this doesn’t have a lot of the funky phenolics that are often found in wilder sour beers helps this to remain far more integrated than I would have expected; there is perhaps a hint of medicinal / plastic phenolic character here, but it is now at an extremely subtle level.

Wow, I was certainly expecting the worst from this beer, it has actually ended up being quite enjoyable. I am sure the fact that this has sat in my fridge for the past 9 months has likely helped this beer (especially going on what some of the other reviews are like); who knows what has happened to this bottle in that time. Looking at some others notes, it is apparent that there really isn’t much of a Brett presence left in this beer, and this is likely a really good thing. The flavor is just so well integrated and tasty; I would never have guessed that the combination of hops, sour and oak would have worked so well together. This is a beer that had to grow on me, not because it wasn’t interesting from the get-go, but because of my preconceived notions about this beer. This ends up being thoroughly enjoyable, and if you give this beer enough time to thoroughly settle (especially since the more recent reviews of this on the net suggest that the bottle was not allowed to settle properly), I would highly recommend this beer at this moment in time and at least into the near future.

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Photo of beergorrilla
3.78/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of TurdFurgison
3.92/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750mL bottle from Corner Brewpub in Ypsilanti, corked and caged (and very hard to remove the cork). The bottle label describes it as a barrel aged India Pale Ale, and from what I understood the barrels contained lambic (?) previously. The beer pours a translucent light brown, darker than unsual for an IPA base, with a thin foam that's comprised of relatively large bubbles. The aroma is more wild than IPA, but after a few sniffs you can tell it was originally hoppy. A little floral hops, but mainly I smell oak aromas and mild bret. It tastes a little tart and maybe apple-like, and the hops don't come through with bitterness too much. In the finish I get more malt and bret funk, really nice.

I think this is only available from the source (not distributed), but definitely worth getting.

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Photo of StoutHunter
3.84/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

I picked up a bottle of Arbor Brewing's Demetrius a couple weeks ago for $15.49 at The Lager Mill. It's been awhile since I've had a sour IPA and I'm interested to see how this one turns out, so lets see how it goes. 2015 Vintage. Poured from a brown 750ml bottle into a Teku.

A- The label is nice, it's got a good design to it and it's just a little eye catching. It poured a nice amber red color that took on more of a ruby red hue when held to the light with almost three fingers worth of fluffy and creamy light tan head that died down to a thin ring that stayed till the end and it left some nice patchy lacing behind. This is a good looking beer, I have no complaints.

S- The aroma starts off with a higher amount of medium sweetness with the funky yeast being the first to show up and it imparts some brett and funky barnyard aromas that goes right into some nice oak aroma. Up next comes a fruity aroma with some berry and cherry aromas coming through and it goes into the hops which impart a earthy, grassy, herbal and spicy hop aroma with just a light amount of citrus hop aromas coming through. This beer has a pretty nice aroma, but I wish it was a little more balanced, I wish the hops showed up more.

T- The taste seems to be similar to the aroma and it starts off with a slightly higher amount of medium sweetness with the funky yeast still being the first to show up and it imparts the same aspects that it did in the aroma. Up next comes the IPA base which is noticeable with some malt and hops flavors and it's followed the oak which imparts the same aspects that it did in the aroma. On the finish there's a lighter amount of medium tartness with a little more sweetness and it has a funky aftertaste. This is a good tasting beer, it's got a little IPA, oak and sour going on, I like it.

M- Fairly smooth. very crisp, a little prickly, on the thicker side of being medium bodied with a high amount of carbonation. The mouthfeel was nice, but I think the carbonation could be toned down a little.


Overall I thought this was a good beer and I thought it was a good example of the style, when it came to the taste all the different aspects showed up nicely and pretty evenly with no single aspect seeming out of place and they worked well with each other. This beer has nice drinkability, I think one glass is the perfect amount for me, the carbonation might start to get to me after that. What I like the most about this beer was the balance when it came to the taste, it was very nice. What I like the least about this beer is the mouthfeel, it's a little overly carbonated. I would buy this beer again when in the mood for the style and I would recommend it to anyone interested in a sour IPA. All in all I liked this beer, it did have a couple aspects that were just a little rough around the edges, but when it came down to it it turned out to be a tasty beer and I enjoyed it. It's not my favorite beer from Arbor, but it's up there as one of the better ones and it's one of the better of the style, but I still prefer Le Terrior. Nice job guys, I enjoyed this sour IPA.

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Photo of DavoleBomb
4.08/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip. This is at least six months old, but it could be much older. Got this from a buddy who had it for an unspecified amount of time.

4.25 A: Opaque orangish brown color. Lots of carbonation, so four fingers of frothy beige head. Retention is pretty good and tons of lacing is left.

4.25 S: This smells absolutely amazing. Supremely fruity with a refreshing hoppy backbone. Orange and peach lead the fruitiness. Herbal and floral hoppiness and lots of it. This truly is a wild IPA. I'm actually quite surprised how much hop aroma has stuck around. Loads of outdoorsy brett funkiness.

4.0 T: Taste is also very good. Hops pair well with the brett. Funky outdoors with floral and herbalness. Slight tangy twang. Peach is the major fruit flavor with wildflowers and dry rotten logs.

4.0 M: Lighter medium body. Nice spritzy carbonation with some creaminess to boot. Good here. Goes down really easily.

4.0 D: This is the type of beer that you can drink for a whole night. Good flavor, no problems, and super smooth.

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3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

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4/5  rDev +3.6%

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3.99/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4/5  rDev +3.6%

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3.83/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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3.25/5  rDev -15.8%

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3.79/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

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