Matt's Burning Rosids | Stone Brewing

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: Belgian Saison

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Life is extraordinarily precious, joyous...and fragile. At Stone, we recently were reminded of this when we lost our dear friend and coworker, Matt Courtright. We felt that there was no better way to share with the world what an extraordinary person he was than by brewing this beer he created. Rather than a somber momento, please think of this as a celebration of Matt. We do. We can’t contemplate it any other way. Matt was by no means a shrinking violet. Quite the contrary. He was exuberant, courageous, outwardly positive, and the type of stalwart friend everybody who knew him was happy to have in their corner. Matt’s smile and voluminous laugh were infectious mainstays around the brewery. He was larger than life in every way...and he was without a doubt an incredible brewer.

Everyone at Stone recognized Matt’s prowess and passion for brewing. He loved to explore what-ifs and why-nots. He crafted the beer you hold in your hands, which he conceived with Stone friend and colleague, Brian Bishop. Burning Rosids is a Belgian-style saison incorporating a unique ingredient-cherrywood smoked malt (the name references the rosid plant family from which cherry trees hail).

Brian and Matt’s many devoting brewing comrades here at Stone were proud to hoist this mash paddles and brew this recipe for him as a symbolic gesture of how much he meant to everyone and how immensely he is missed. When you enjoy this very special beer, please join all of us in raising your glass in Matt’s memory

Added by DerrickW on 01-03-2014

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
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Reviews:
225
Ratings:
1,309
pDev:
13.03%
 
 
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

decent beer, great cause. this is born from a terrible tragedy, but its a nice way to honor the man here. very strong saison type, not nearly as smoked as i wish it was, sometimes it takes a lot of cherrywood smoked malt to get the desired result. definitely well short of a smoked beer like a ranch, but it gives this saison an additional earthy factor along with the yeast. my problem with it is how sort of average it all is, not as distinct as the tagline that sold me, and honestly its way too strong. its a bottle of beer that is just too much, even half a bomber with a buddy is more of this than i really want. however, i appreciate how light it feels, i mean, you don't taste the alcohol at all, and its so brilliantly carbonated that it never really shows its true meat. nice clear color for a saison too, usually these have quite a bit more haze to them. overall a special release from stone is always worth trying, especially with a story like this one, but it could be improved with a more robust smoke profile, and with an abv down in the 8% range.

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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Stone Company Store in Pasadena, CA.

Pours a clear orange with a foamy off-white head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy swaths of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour with malt, grain, smoke, fruit, and yeast aromas. Taste is much the same with slightly sour malt, smoke, and fruit flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of smoke bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and acidic mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with a fairly subdued smoke presence in my opinion.

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look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

On-tap at Mugs Alehouse, Brooklyn, NY

A: The beer is hazy yellowish orange in color and has no visible carbonation. It poured with a thin off white head that died down and left a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of Belgian yeast and spices are present in the nose along with notes of smoked malts.
T: The taste is much more smokier compared to the smell and is dominated by flavors of the cherrywood smoked malts. Notes of spices are also noticeable towards the finish.
M: It feels just about medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is an interesting saison that is relatively easy to drink because the smoke isn't overpowering and adds interesting complexities to the taste.

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look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle - I'm conditioned to reading the long-winded back labels of Stone products with an air of detached amusement. Here, I feel the urge to go and hug my toddler and wife before the little scamp submits to sleep tonight. Back in a sec.

This beer pours a rather hazy and cloudy, yet bright medium apricot amber hue, with one skinny finger of weakly foamy, and mostly just plainly bubbly dirty white head, which leaves a few instances of streaky lace around the glass as things slowly abate.

It smells of smoky, meaty bready caramel malt, medicinal band-aid, cherry cough syrup, zingy earthy yeast, a fresh-hewn tree branch woodiness, a bit of indistinct farmhouse funk, further singed orange and lemon fruity esters, and some musty, leafy grassiness. The taste is fairly fruity - mixed orchard varieties - cherry, natch, lemon, apple, and orange, all - after having endured the cyclical forest fire season. Beyond that, the funky, medicinal, and gamey yeasty characters dominate, over a besieged semi-sweet graininess, and some typical, if equally baffled citrus and green hoppiness, with nary a sign of that 21-proof booze, huh.

The bubbles are quite understated, barely noticeable amongst all that other stuff going on, the body a stolid medium weight, and not really that smooth, so sorry to say. It finishes off-dry, and still overly astringent from the now usual suspects - it's like my palate did a bad, bad, thing, or something, or is associated with a certain M. Ghomeshi, eh?

I know this is a touching tribute to a tragically befallen member of the Stone brewing team, but I just can't get on board with this as a beer - the smoky character is much too much of that acrid medicinal sort, the kind that comes near to bringing up your last meal every other ill-advised gulp. Yeah, sorry Matt, but still, I hope wherever you are right now, you get to drink and brew whatever the hell you like (a bit like it was back here, bazinga!).

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look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with unappealing label and branded pry-off pressure cap acquired at a local Texas bottle shop and served into an Avery stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average given the brewery - whose work tends to disappoint and who may well be the most overrated brewery period.

When news of Matt's death hit the forums, many were outraged when I predicted on the spot that Stone - more marketing company than brewery - would find a way to capitalize on it (and I even predicted it'd be a smoked beer, ironically). Well, here it is. All dressed up under the auspices of tribute. (They're "contributing funds" to charities, but are they contributing ALL funds? See Framboise For A Cure for an example of how legitimate beer for charity is done). And no one seems outraged except me that this actually happened!

Reviewed as a smoked saison because the label identifies it as such (we'll ignored that "imperial" marketing nonsense). 10.5% ABV.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a one finger wide head of white colour. Okay thickness and creaminess. Okay frothiness. Average retention - about 2 minutes. Little lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body colour is a translucent semitransparent orange-copper of above average vibrance. Clean; no floating yeast particles are visible - not quite what you'd expect from a traditional saison. Appears adequately carbonated.

Overall, it's pretty average for the style and seems a bit too filtered. Far from unique or special.

Sm: Way overhopped for a saison. Floral hop character, mango, bubblegum.

I do pick up on the cherrywood smoke, which is delightfully subtle and well-integrated, but does still run against the saison character.

Speaking of which, where is it? No subtle white pepper, no milky notes, no intricate Belgian yeast, no funky brettanomyces...this doesn't smell like a saison. Outright. It does feature some unsuitable pale malt, caramalt, and seemingly some honey?

A pleasant aroma of mild strength, but a poor one for its purported style. Alcohol is noticeable.

No yeast character or off-notes are detectable.

The cherrywood is nice.

T: I'm making the call - from the first sip - to continue reviewing this as a rauchbier. The cherrywood is lovely, with just a hint of smoke. It's not as harsh or ashy as many rauchbieren, and the cherrywood is an excellent complement to the Belgian pale malt build. It's hopped fairly aggressively for a rauchbier or saison, with plenty of floral character. Still, the malty sweetness helps keep a decent balance and cohesion, though the flavour profile never feels very intricate or complex. Average depth, duration, and intensity of flavour (though the intensity is below average for a rauchbier)

I like it in a general sense, but nothing about this suggests it's a saison.

No yeast character or off-flavours come through, though it does have some mild alcohol warmth.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Overcarbonated. Clean. Decent thickness. Medium body. Unrefreshing. Has a nice presence on the palate, with a pretty good weight for a rauchbier.

Not astringent, harsh, oily, gushed, hot, or boozy.

Overall, this texture suits the taste well in a general sense, but doesn't truly complement it or coax out its nuances.

Dr: A drinkable rauchbier and a failure of a saison, Burning Rosids is an enjoyable brew when taken outside of style conventions and features some impressively subtle cherrywood smoking. I'll have no trouble finishing this bottle alone, but I wouldn't recommend it to friends or trade partners.

I do think it's regrettable (and frankly reprehensible) Stone released this beer the way they did (and notice how they cranked it out so quickly after Matt's death - which leads to other more disturbing questions).

Stone's deplorable marketing tendencies aside, this is an above average beer worth trying, but I wouldn't get it again - there are superior rauchbieren available at or below this price point, and they don't pretend to be saisons.

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look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

If no other notion about craft beer has been more deeply engrained into my psyche recently, it is the notion that beer is people. Its the stories, its the activity, its the history- all of a culmination of decisions that cause a flavor to exist. And that intent has never carried more weight as does Matt's Burning Rosids. To commemorate the life, passing and the lingering legacy that Matt Courtright left on the craft beer world, this beer is born.

The Belgian-inspired Saison opens with a bright amber-peach color with diffused highlights of gold and orange that cast through the beer's semi-translucent haze. A quick and creamy head rapidly pulls from the body of the ale and caps it with a creamy bone-white head. Much more frothy than zesty, the ale clues us in that it is an American-type farmhouse ale and not the sincerely authentic champage-like appearance of those from Belgium.

Tangy smoke flavors leap out immediately- but here comes the pepper and more earth, then the fruit, the wine and the crisp malt... wave after wave of aromas waft over the nose with everthing from burnt straw, cumin and fennel to musty oranges and limes. All the while a light note of the sea, leather, grass and tea all round out the nose as the first sip lingers just behind.

To taste, its wafer-thin sweetness is of mild honey suckle, whole wheat and maybe a crackle of rye. But the beer's tangy, tart, near-sourish properties take command over the middle where a sense of dried oranges and limes, white grape, apple and papaya all seem of the grilled varieties with the beer's smoked character lurking in the background. Those campfire flavors link up seamlessly with the beer's finish of peppercorn, hay, fennel and cumin.

Adoring the beer's taste and texture, its creamy upstart creates an even fade that casts aside its sweetness and body as the ale trends bitter, dry, spicy and bracingly acidic. Its warm finish is not indicative of its high alcohol strength but does finish warm and pleasantly peppery.

Much like the ale, the memory, life and spirit of Matt will resonate not only in this commemorative ale, but in the taste of all ales that Stone will make here on out. Its a reminder to not only respect the contributions of Matt but to salute all the folks of Stone Brewing in their jobs well done.

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4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 12/20/2013. Pours lightly hazy/cloudy golden orange color with a 1-2 finger dense white head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of lemon zest, orange peel, pear, apple, banana, pepper, clove, honey, wheat, bread, herbal, grass, light wood smoke, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast ester, malt, and light-moderate smoke notes; with good strength. Taste of lemon zest, orange peel, pear, apple, banana, pepper, clove, honey, wheat, bread, wood smoke, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness. Good amount of earthy peppery yeast spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of lemon zest, pear, apple, banana, pepper, clove, honey, wheat, bread, herbal, grass, wood smoke, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Very nice robustness and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast ester and pale/smoked malt sweetness; with a great malt/yeast flavor balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a smooth and lightly slick/crisp/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice smoked saision style. All around good robustness, complexity, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast ester and bready/smoked malt sweetness; and very smooth to sip on for the ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

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