Stochasticity Project: HiFi+LoFi Mixtape
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American Strong Ale
3.66 | pDev: 9.84%
Stone Brewing
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
Stochasticity Project:  HiFi+LoFi MixtapeStochasticity Project:  HiFi+LoFi Mixtape
Notes: A blend of fresh and barrel-aged ales
First Release: May 2015

A beer that pays homage to a centuries-old tradition of combining new beer with aged “stock ales.” Freshly brewed beers of the day often were very smoky and bitter tasting, and were blended with older beer that had mellowed with age to produce more drinkable libations. This modern brew showcases our brewers’ talents in blending a stock ale aged more than three months in oak foudres (large wooden fermentation vessels) with a fresh version of the same beer to create a perfect harmony spanning end to end on the taste spectrum.
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Photo of GarrettB
3.49/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

May 28th, 2015 - A beer for a sweet Spring day, the Stone Stochasicity HiLow is a tuft of cotton candy in a glass. The color is a clear and medium-dark orange-brown (or a light amber) with some bubble gum, strawberry and a light sourness on the nose. And the flavor is equally sweet, and maybe even more so. The thicker palate amplifies the sweeter notes giving it more of a white grape juice and pear syrup blend. Though thick, it is tasty and a great contender for my empty growler today.

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Photo of rodbeermunch
2.91/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Had this at the Strange Brew 2018 festival. Pours a copper color. Copper might come up again. Good amount of caramel malt, alcohol and bittering hops in the nose.

Taste had plenty of the copper bitterness going for it. I guess Imperial Penny Ale wasn't as cool of a name as this mixtape scoodoo. I didn't get anything woodsy out of it. Somewhat reminded me of an old double ipa with tons of crystal malt and 100ibu bitterness. The alcohol just keeps coming at you in the mouth feel, especially as it warms. This beer doesn't improve in any way as it warms. Only brings out those aspects that you weren't super jones'd about in the first place. It kind of gives you the feeling that they had a beer that nobody liked, or would like. So they decided to try and blend that with something else to get rid of it. The ol' Smoking Wood trick.

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Photo of Inpraiseoffolly
3.76/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 4

Poured this cold (40 degrees )into a tall beer tumbler copper cloudy poured too fast and a large head resulted ,it quickly dissapated. Smells of orange and sweet malts.Up front taste of piney and citrusy hops ,tangerines and a bit of sweet chocolate fades quickly to a pleasant bitterness. Moderate carbonation is an OK choice. Not as overstuffed with flavors as a lot of Stones strong ales.Don't know much about the blending of new and old ales...would be interesting to taste them separately and then taste this combo to see if what they were trying to achieve worked the way they said. Discontinued, might buy it again if they bought it back

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Photo of colts9016
3.95/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I bought this beer a while back aged it for a few months and now I will consume it. Poured into a pint glass at 45 degrees. A minimal head that surprisingly kept up the retention on it. The color of the beer is a copper color with some light brown hues. The clarity of the beer is slightly cloudy. Some carbonation bubble traveling to and fro within the beer.

N: Citrus note are the first aromas I pull off the beer. Toasted malts, hints of caramels, melon, bready, and some fruity esters.

T: A strong toasted malts, caramel, bread, high fruity esters, grapefruit,oak, pine, lemons, oranges, solvent, yeasty, and floral notes.

MF: Astringent, medium plus body, medium low carbonation, and the finish is lingering

O: The beer has a wonderful nose, but the taste for me just does not deliver. The beer has a pungent solvent flavor with other wonderful characters. This is a let down by stone, could be much better.

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Photo of Pegasus
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Modest off-white head, crowns a hazy orange-brown body, Thick, fine-beaded broken lacing adorns the glass walls.

Aroma: Tropical fruits vie with earthy hops, there are also apricots, grapefruit and caramel.

Taste: Opens with earthy hops, caramel, and fruit. Both grapefruit and apricots present, and there is an abundance of caramel, and some sweet alcohol. Following on is bitter apple rind, and smoke. In the middle of the taste, strong wood notes appear. Late in the taste, earthy hops dominate, but the sweet alcohol is never vanquished.

Mouth feel: Smooth and quite pleasant,very full.

Drinkability/notes: Rather nice, it was quite an experience to enjoy beer as an English pub patron might have some two centuries ago.

Presentation: Packaged in an enameled twenty-two ounce brown glass bomber with a pry-off crown, served in a New Belgium Brewing chalice.

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Photo of macrosmatic
2.21/5  rDev -39.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Reviewed from long-standing notes (several months ago). Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a Cycle Brewing goblet.

A: Very hazy and dark gold, with good visible carbonation and a finger's worth of off-white head that fades quickly.

S: Oak, acetic tartness, and bready malts. This is a bit concerning here…I don't think this is supposed to be sour.

T: Tastes mostly like paint thinner. There's some oak, some hop bitterness, and bready malts. And acetone and nail polish remover. Finishes with some lingering sour off-flavor.

M: Medium body, good carbonation sensation. Who can tell about alcohol presence...

O: This is going down the drain. Infected or just horribly wrong, I'm not certain. This cannot be what Stone was aiming for. It isn't so bad that I couldn't drink it on a dare, but it's nothing I'd ever serve to anybody. I hope this is just a bad bottle.

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Photo of schoolboy
3.52/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

You can't get this any more. No great loss. I found this one languishing on the shelves at Saveon. I should have taken something else. There were other of this series that I didn't think much of. This one too.

It's dark yellow. Funky smelling - like BO. Funky tasting, like an unnecessary amalgam of stuff. Not boozy. Dry. Dark. Weird.

Not recommended. Stone gets point for trying off the board stuff but they often don't work.

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Photo of emyers
3.54/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle poured into Founders snifter. Bottled on date: 5/2015

Pours a very cloudy amber-orange with a 2-finger off-white head.

Nose is mostly fruity yeast esters and some barnyard funk along with oak and vanilla.

Taste doesn't follow the smell at all. Rich malt presence with a lot of oak and tannins. The fruity character from the nose is completely gone. Quite a bit of bite on the finish with a strong bittering hop presence and some alcohol heat.

Full-bodied with medium-high carbonation. Feel is somewhat astringent.

Interesting beer. Ultimately comes off too harsh to me (an that's after over a year of cellaring), but it has enough going on to keep it a solid beer.

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Photo of Greywulfken
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Unsurprisingly awesome. Like Burton Baton on steroids. Presents orchard fruits with woody tannins nestled within. A plush malt base suggested breads sweetened with caramel. Moderate carbonation, smooth medium-weight feel.

Consumed 6/23/15, bottled 5/5/15

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Photo of q33jeff
3.1/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Bomber to snifter.

Look: Murky Orange. Medium white head.
Aroma: Orange, mold, peat, apricot.

Taste: much harsher than aroma would suggest. Hops, sour fruit,

Feel: heavy body, chewy like wet cardboard.

Nicely crafted except for the most important part, taste, is not rubbing me the right way.

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Photo of Apellonious
3.91/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22 oz bomber bottled 5/7/2015 (hope it was aged appropriately) poured into a tulip glass.

A - hazy, cloudy orange, with a quarter finger head that moves instantly to a thin layer of lace. Some visible chunks of sediment in the glass.

S - Interesting. Blood orange, pear, some brown sugar.

T - Grains/yeast, citrus/mango, a touch of heat, molasses and leather.

M - Carbonation medium low, the feel is on the thin side.

O - An interesting mix, pardon the pun. Becomes quite drying by the 2nd glass.

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.87/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Enjoyed from the 22 oz bomber in a snifter. This unique brew pours a hazy orange with a very nice head of white foam that settles to a thick sudsy ring, thin layer, and excellent lacing. Nose of citrus fruits, orchard fruits, sweet caramel malts, and grassy hops. Flavors follow the nose with grapefruit and caramel malts accentuated by oak and subtle grassy hops. Nice mouth feel, light carbonation with a lightly bitter aftertaste and a warming finish. A unique brew to say the least. As it warms the nuances of the old ale get more pronounced which makes this even better.

Would hope they re-introduce this one with subtle tweaks....blending is a lost art.


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Photo of bushbeer75
3.47/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

poured from a 22 fl. oz. brown bottle - bottled on 5/7/2015

Stone Stochasticity HiFi + LoFi Mixtape Ale poured a hazy orange gold [light peach color] producing a one finger off-white head . The head had good retention then dissipated to a thin collar of foam. The nose was only moderate at best with the smell of [caramel] malt, light fruit and grassy hops. The taste follows the nose with a slight improvement. The grapefruit hop bitterness builds as you consume it. High-medium bodied with lighter carbonation.

Overall not a "bad" ale - just don't think I would revisit. Like part of its name implies I am "MIXed" on this ale.

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.61/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

"Even before the science of beer was fully understood, those seeking to present the finest iteration of an ale had their ways of ensuring flavors and textures that were a cut above. In Britain, pub owners kept 'stock ales' on hand, beers that had been left to mature in vats or oak barrels. During this aging period, the beers would mellow and occasionally develop a twinge of tartness. These publicans were unaware of the oxidative or microbiological reasons for such changes, but found that blending some of their stock ales with fresh beers- which tended to be overly bitter and smoky- made ideal quaffs for their patrons. For this beer, we have taken a page from this tale of British pub life and blended a stock ale aged more than three months in oak foudres (large wooden fermentation vessels more commonly used by vintners) with a fresh version of that beer to create a perfect harmony spanning end to end on the taste spectrum." Brewed in the style of an American Strong Ale, available in 22 oz. bottles and limited draft. This is another entry in the Stochasticity series.

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle to a tulip glass.

(Appearance) Pours a foamy head of a creamy white tone over a mildly hazy deep amber tone with abundant, vivacious carbonation and sparse, fine sediment. Retention is very good and lacing is light and patchy. 4.5

(Smell) Bread malt body with a lactic sourness and soft funk underneath. Hints of peppery spice, tangy citrus fruits and fermented white grapes round out the aroma. Altogether it smells unique and enjoyable enough to work. Potency is moderate. 4

(Taste) The flavor nods to the aroma, although there is notably less residual sweetness and a drying impact that hampers drinkability. Dry bread malts and grains, bitter citrus peel, delicate lactic acidity, white wine and a drying oak and heavy yeast presence. The dryness of this ale creates an imbalance of flavor profiles, knocking this ale back considerably from what could have been a fantastic, yet well-balanced beer. It's difficult to look past. 3.25

(Mouthfeel) Texture is smooth, lightly chewy, slick and medium dry. Carbonation is modest, generating a mild frothiness and a moderately crisp finish. Body is shy of medium for the style, medium+ overall. Balance is oaky dry and tart over sweet. Alcohol presence is mild and there are no off characters. 3.75

(Overall) Stone's Stochasticity releases are seemingly hit-or-miss, and this beer looked and smelled quite promising, but the oak aging and yeast profile came on a bit too sharp, drying the flavors out and creating a lot of imbalance in the drinkability of this beer. I don't expect this to improve with time. Interesting beer but not well preserved. The bottle suggests this beer can be cellared, but I'd suggest not to hold out on this any longer. 3.5

Stone Brewing Co.'s
Stochasticity Project: Hifi + Lofi Mixtape

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Photo of Tsar_Riga
3.68/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - It is a pretty beer, with a hazy golden orange body. huge rocky off white head, and full and sticky lacing.

S - Wood. Lots of it. Fruit esters, lemon, limestone.

T - Follows the nose, with a big wallop of oak and minerality, a hint of lemon and kiwi fruit, over-steeped tea and a huge punch in the form of a medicinal, bitter pith close. Calls to mind Belgian Strong Pales, but without the control and balance.

M - A bit coating, and a hint of fatigue over time.

O - I am not sure what the game was here, but I do not think this held together very well. There is something promising, it looks great, and at its best there is something refreshing and interesting, but the oak is dialed too forward, and the medicinal hit detracts. Ultimately I'd skip this one if it came around again.

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Photo of Uanof
3.68/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottled on 5/7/15, drank on 3/3/16 from a Stone snifter.

L - pours from an orange to dark copper with a 1/2" head that quickly dissipates into a thin ring across the top leaving short bursts of lacing behind. Bottle contains sediments so last pour was murkier than the rest.

S - aromas from acetone, yeast and tannins quickly surface. Not much presence from the smokiness.

T - not much present here asides from the alcohol burn, not overwhelming but present nonetheless. Bitter and yeast driven.

F - Surprisingly light for the alcohol percentage. If it were a blind tasting I could swear I'm drinking an ESB.

O - An interesting take on the style. While not entirely amused (probably the style wasn't the best for this experiment) it wasn't despicable either. Can't complain for buying the beer at half price!

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Photo of TheSixthRing
3.75/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance - Pours hazy and golden with a touch of amber in color. The head is off-white and peaks at near two fingers thick. Great retention, eventually dissipating to a thick, creamy looking film across the surface. Lacing consists of a few broken sheets and several small spots found around the glass.

Smell - Moderate aroma, with a bit of cherry tartness, wood and some boozy character.

Taste - Follows the nose. Light tartness, then big earthy notes of wood and grassy bitterness. Light banana and a touch of spice. The finish consists of fading wood and lingering grassy bitterness, along with a hint of vodka-like booziness.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with low carbonation. The texture is slick with a touch of creaminess, and goes down well before a light burning from the alcohol. Semi-dry finish.

Overall - Pretty good beer, in my opinion. Interesting array of flavors that work well together. A bit boozy in the finish, but all things considered this worked for me.

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Photo of SHODriver
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: poured into a snifter to a hazy orange with some floating sediment topped by a finger of dense white head that fades quickly to a collar around the edge of the glass leaving minimal lacing
S: Smells of fruits and oak with a little funk and tartness
T: Taste is fruity at the front end with some oak, funk and slight tartness. Hints of malt sweetness at times. The oak and funk kind of takes over on this one with some slight band aid flavors. Swallow is slightly tart with a good bit of oak and more funk and a slight hop oil kick toward the very back.
M: medium in body with soft and slightly prickly carbonation with a slightly dry finish
O: This is an odd beer. I'm really not sure what's going on but it isn't terrible. I honestly kind of like what it has going on but I'm not sure if this is what they were shooting for.

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Photo of Tilly
3.63/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

P: Hazy golden amber with a respectable head that dissipates quickly but leaves a even more respectable lacing on the top and sides.
A: Malt, bread yeast, a hint of smoke.
T: Malt, sweet soft fruit- berries, floral, fresh bread, hoppy.
M: Medium to full body, a bit tart, alcohol is prevalent (shouldn't have to be), a long lingering bitterness that's this beers focal for me. Nicely carbonated.
O: A decent enough job by Stone's but not their most significant. A good job none the less

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Photo of NanookinTexas
4.18/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

22oz. Bomber ($8.99) Bottled on 05/07/2015 8.8%ABV Poured into a Ommegang Brew Stem

Pours a cloudy unfiltered amber honey color (love the look of this), lots of yeast sediment. Looks rich. Approx. 3/4" - 1" white to slight beige colored head, made of fine bubbles. Dissipates rather quickly, leaving a thin layer of foam with lots of sticky lacing on the glass. Lots of little champagne size bubbles rising from the bottom of the stem.

Nose: No doubt about the barrel aging of this blend. Lots of malty breadiness comes through. Also, slight tinge of very ripe orange peel. Very nice. Swirl it in the glass a bit to wake up the yeast and perhaps a very subtle cinnamon or nutmeg comes through. Perhaps even a slight umami aroma.

Palate: Again, no doubt about the barrel aging in this blend, yet not overpowering. Malty breadiness mixed with bitter hoppy citrus rind, Very slight black pepper (from the barrel aging, I'm sure). There's a lot going on with this, complex. May I have another bottle, to be certain? Lol. Oakiness, malty breadiness in the front, finishing with a slight hoppy bitterness, yet clean, dry.

Feel: Very clean, not at all heavy. Alcohol cloaked very well. Not too heavy on the tungue. Very clean finish on the tungue.

Overall: Solid brew, without doubt. For me, I love the natural unfiltered look of this, particularly when the last bit of the brew is poured into the glass and the remaining sediment is mixed into the last pour. If you're searching for a brew that's got a lot of character, without the MEGA hoppy bitterness of some of the other Stone offerings, I'll engourage you to try this. Very easy to drink and, not a lot of booziness. I'll ask again.... may I have another bottle please? Lol

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Photo of stephenjmoore
3.96/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy tannish-orange body with lots of yeast sediment. Thin, soapy bone-white head sits on top. Aroma is bready, earthy, oaky, with hints of tree fruits, dashes of lemony hops and the slightest funk. Much more brediness and earthiness in the flavor, with the oak coming through in a big way. Still getting some of the fruitiness, but mainly bready oak. Full bodied, coats the tongue and lingers, medium carbonation. Very unique and a huge change of pace from the majority of beers out there.

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Photo of SDDLSK
3.45/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 5/7/15. Poured into a snifter at cellar temp

A: Dark hazy gold, good head that dissipated fast, loved the way it looked

S:Not really a lot that stands out, a little earthy, small hints of wood, I would assume from the barrels

T: Up front can taste the malt, quickly fades to a nice bite that borders on bitter. Can sense the alcohol and the wood a bit more as it warmed up

M: Very smooth, this is a beer that goes down easy for me

O: An interesting beer, pleasant to drink. One that I will prob grab again if I find one that has been properly stored and not just left on the shelf at the store

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Photo of VirginiaBeerMan
2.8/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

I don't understand some of these reviews that describe this as a clean or clear pour. I poured this out of a 22 oz. bomber. The carbonation was fairly heavy and the color was a very dirty, murky golden orange. It doesn't much matter overall, but I thought the inconsistecy in the reviews was interesting. The head disipated rather quickly.
I'm getting aromas of yeast, pine and very light citrus. The 8.8% alcohol is very noticable in both aroma and taste, and at times I got hints of wine. A pretty biting and lasting bitter did not compliment this beer.
I don't have issue with higher ABV beers such as this, but the alcohol was a bit too dominant over the other flavors for my liking.
Overall a good attempt, but I think this one needs work.

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Photo of Chandango
2.93/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured into a pint glass, comes out a muddy amber color with an off white head that lingers. A slight malty and roasted scent comes through, but not much else, and the same can be said of the flavor. First sip hits with with that same roasted malt, but quickly gives way to bitterness which lingers, and that's about all I can taste for the rest of the beer. Not terrible, but definitely not great.

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Photo of CHickman
3.88/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled 05/07/15: pours hazy gold color with bubbles racing up the brew to a 1-2 finger foamy off white head that was full of small bubbles, fading very slowly and leaving good spotty lacing.

Smells of grains, sweet malt, light citrus, floral hops, caramel, earthy notes, woody notes, mild spices and wet cardboard or some faint funky yeast. Oddly enough overall it smells like an America adjunct lager that has some earthy notes and peppery spices in the mix.

Arrogant Bastard sets the standard for American Strong Ale flavor and this brew deviates in a lot of ways but manages to remain tasty, interesting and well balanced. For starters, the taste is a lot less harsh and "strong" and a lot more mellow and commercial with the overall same qualities as the nose which resemble an America adjunct lager that has some earthy notes and peppery spices in the mix. That's where the basic lager aspect ends. As this beer warms I got more grape and must, white wine characteristics, fruity tartness, smoky flavors, woody notes, toasted grains, caramel and then a mix of citrus hops, orange peel and dry floral hops which unleash more mild spices. The barrel aging notes are subtle with coconut, vanilla and wood seeping through and adding complexities to the nice balance. It's a rope a dope with the flavor; the odor lulls you and makes you think this was a dud and then the flavor whacks you with a right hook of all kinds of tasty beers that seem to be shaken and not stirred. The warmer the beer gets, the better it gets, yet all the while hiding the 8.8% ABV. This beer grew on me and I enjoyed it more with each sip.

Mouthfeel is so creamy and smooth that it's almost milky and watery; seems like a cask ale which is the intent to replicate a "stock ale". This has nice smoky notes, a thick, chewy body, very mild or almost no carbonation, then woody, barrel and earthy elements bring the roasted grains and dry hops together to allow the finish to trail off a little bitter, a little funky, smoky and like a fine English ale you'd find in a pub at some downstairs pub in London which has plenty of locals.

Like a mix tape, the malt varieties and hop varieties listed on the bottle before entering the oak "foudres" produced a harmonious brew that makes a nice drinking soundtrack. I know, a corny conclusion, but this was a solid beer with all kinds of classic Stone twists and turns which made me want to pen my summary in the same narrative, designed to amuse all who care to read this review.

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Stochasticity Project: HiFi+LoFi Mixtape from Stone Brewing
Beer rating: 83 out of 100 with 465 ratings