Stochasticity Project: Grainiac
Stone Brewing

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Style:
Red Ale - Imperial
ABV:
8.5%
Score:
88
Avg:
3.91 | pDev: 9.21%
Reviews:
66
Ratings:
272
From:
Stone Brewing
 
California, United States
Avail:
Retired (no longer brewed)
Wants
  8
Gots
  69
SCORE
88
Very Good
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Notes: This hoppy, deep amber-hued beer was created to shine a light on rare, unexplored grains seldom used in the brewing world. In addition to barley, wheat, rye and triticale, we added malted millet and malted buckwheat to bring the total unique grain count to nine. The earthy, nutty notes of granola found in this experimental multigrain malt bomb are complemented by the citrusy, piney flavors of four classic American hops. We dry-hopped the beer with Cascade and Centennial hops at the end, adding more citrus notes and rounding out the grain bill’s rich, bready character.
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beerthulhu from New Jersey

3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

A: Murky ice tea pour with a dark golden-khaki head that was fizzy and short lived. Clean vessel walls with a small amount of erratic carbonation bubbles within. A dark, grainy forward presence true to its name.

S: Lemony grains, fresh oats and grains on the nose. Some grassy-cascasde dankness of hops interlude. Spicy touch of black pepper with some pungent flowery columbus hops, only for the die hard old school hop head to appreciate. Toast, and breadiness, dank herbal moments with some whole pear slices and spicy cola to boot. Nice fresh grain base, spicy, toasted, and very forward is complimented by a small dankness of the hops but is never overshadowed. Hints of cinnamon stick.

T: The flavor was very boozy forward, bourbon soaked cinnamon sticks, dank citrus and bready malts are fulfilling. Dank columbus hops give a flowery pungency that few will probably appreciate. Spicy pretzel bread, baked grains, sweet toffee and a peppery citrus spicing that was sharp and pronounced. Grassy pine hops compliment, dank herbal, with a spicy rye influence of bourbon and anise. Things conclude with a flowery hop bite and dryness.

M: Thick and malty mouthful, with a quiet sense of carbonation. Milky depth and boozy spicy peppery warmth on inner cheeks.

O: Overall love the complexity and marriage of hops and malt, while still letting the malt be the main showcase. Stone, well known for its hop forward beers, shows it can be more then a one trick pony and make not only malt forward beers, but ones that are well balanced as well. Spicy and peppery nose and flavor, with boozy bourbon accents. Love the use of the four "C" hops, particularly the lesser utilized Columbus which brings a dank and pungently flowery bite like no other and perfectly round out this malt forward bomb.

May 09, 2020
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jngrizzaffi from Texas

3.39/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Bottled 11/8/2015. Pours a very cloudy brownish red color with a thin foamy head. Head retention is mild. Lacing is decent. Grainy aroma with some slightly toasted malts and caramel sweetness. Taste is very grainy. I think it has lost any hint of citrus. Some caramel sweetness at the end but also is bready and has some bitterness. Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. I think this one has sat a little long.

Nov 10, 2018
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macrosmatic from Florida

3.66/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from (long-standing) notes. Poured from the 22 oz. bottle into a Cycle Brewing goblet.

A: Dark copper and very hazy, with good visible carbonation and a half-finger of tan head that fades quickly.

S: Toasted malts, citrus and resin hops, and a light caramel sweetness. Orange zest in the background. Nothing impressive here, and the more I smell it, there’s maybe a touch of oxidation even though this is a fresh bottle.

T: Resin and oily hops. Toasted malts with accompanying sweetness and a bit of caramel flavor. Some citrus rind hops. There’s a fair amount of alpha bitterness in the hang with just a touch of citrus rind and fading caramel flavors.

M: Average carbonation sensation, and the alcohol seems a bit more prominent than expected. The body is typical for a hoppy red ale.

O: Pretty “meh” overall. Not too much to complain about (aside from a boring hop profile) but there’s not much exciting either. Maybe there's something a little bit different in the graininess of the malt bill, but it's subtle.

Oct 28, 2017
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q33jeff from New Jersey

3.65/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.75

**
12/30/2015
Bottle to pint glass. Look is deep dark brown; creamy white head. Aroma is pine and hops. Taste is malt, bread. Hop like bite in the finish. Feel is a little flat, a little sticky, but smooth. Interesting flavors. Definitely a unique beer.
**

Aug 12, 2017
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travolta from California

4.65/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

App: beautiful red, bourbon color.creamy puffy head with good retention and very nice lacing.

Nose: Nutty and floral with some darker fruit. Very nicely goes between dark fruit and floral/nutty.

Taste: Sweet malt and light bourbon and rum. A little blood orange and grapefruit.

Notes: In Charlottesville for Eric's wedding!!

Jun 01, 2017
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HotDogBikeRide from Texas

4.71/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Yup! Finishing up today's reviews of 3 Stone rarities/high quality bottles. This one is the darkest of the three, giving me a Hercules by Great Divide kinda look on the color but the smell absolutely taking me some place else. We got so many malts on this one I will never know this much about beer to judge or accurately compare, but let's just say the complex mixture takes you away, is inoffensive and full of character. A little more heavy bodied then some of the last couple I've reviewed.

Warming beer once again (I think Stone's beers that go over 8% are by far the best). Feels good to drink. JUST enough hops to keep these grains in check. While I am a BIG hop fan, I LOVE this beer! Mostly because I feel like they understand my need for hops to complete a beer and want to show me all these crazy malts just to give me a beer trip.

Nice carbonation to it, aftertaste wonderful, my burps are full of character bahaha. A little dark and the way I like it. Some people fuck up a malt bomb (excuse my language), and this is just not the case here. I am proud to call this one a malt bomb, and I usually hate malt bombs. Stone gets me feeling like a King making these wonderful beers.

Pairs WELL with food.. thank youuu

Dec 15, 2016
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princessbay710 from Texas

4.19/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours dark, with slime-blob lacing. The smell caught me off guard, immensely floral and fruity. The mouthfeel helps this one go down, for the taste is.. strong. I was exceptionally excited to try this one, forgetting of course that more grain could just mean more bite. It's honestly hard to review, much too monotone, and loud in the bitterness for me. Though I'm sure this is what someone out there is looking for.

Dec 15, 2016
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ScruffySouthpaw from New York

4.08/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Served in a tulip glass from a vintage bottle dated 11/13/15.

Appearance: Deep red Amber color with medium bubbles to the body. Light sediments probably because of the age of the brew. Head is about one finger's length off the body coming an off-white color. Drops pretty quick with sticky lacing.

Smell: Light citrus and hops. Smells good but so light.

Taste: Sweet complex brew consists of grapefruit and hint of orange. The sweet malts are serious, I am falling in lust with the flavor alone.

Mouth: medium carbonation, might come off a bit dry. Bread feel at the end, but very very sticky.

Overall: Had this brew for almost a year and finally had a crack at it, in sure the crew caramelized a bit from its originally conception but still super savory. Salud!

Nov 28, 2016
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beernewbie285 from Kansas

4.76/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

You can sme the malt of this beer and it is phenomenal. The hops are just present enough that you can taste them and smell them slightly but not so much that it feels like an IPA. I truly wish this beer was one of their year rounds because it would always be in my fridge.

Jun 22, 2016
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StoutHunter from Michigan

3.75/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

I got a bottle of Stone's Stochasticity Project Grainiac at The Lager Mill. I'm always down to try a new beer from Stone and i'm interested to see how this one turns out, so lets see how it goes. 2016 Vintage. Poured from a brown 22oz bottle into a teku.

A- The label looks nice, it's pretty typical for this series and a little eye catching. It poured a nice mahogany color that took on more of a ruby and crimson color when held to the light with just about a fingers worth of creamy light tan head that died to a thin ring that eventually faded away and it left some spotty lacing behind. This is a good looking beer, I have no complaints.

S- The aroma starts off with a higher amount medium sweetness with a candied orange aroma being the first to show up along with some hoppy floral and piney aromas. Up next comes the malts which stick out nicely and they impart a grainy, caramel, caramel malt, toasted malt and sweet malt aromas that make for a pretty complex malt profile. Towards the end there's just a little more floral hops and green hops. This beer has a pretty nice aroma, I like the complexity.

T- The taste seems to be pretty similar to the aroma and it starts off with a slightly higher amount of medium sweetness with the hops still being the first to show up, this time they are more balanced and they impart some citrus rind, floral, light green hops, and piney flavors with no single aspect sticking out the most. Up next comes the malts which impart the same complex malty aspect that it did in the aroma along with a little bit of woody flavor that works well with it. On the finish there's more lightly toasted caramel malt flavors with a lighter amount of medium bitterness with a little bit of sweetness showing up also with a hoppy and grainy malt aftertaste. This is a pretty nice tasting beer, I like how complex the malts are.

M- Smooth, crisp, a little creamy, medium bodied with slightly higher amount of medium carbonation. The mouthfeel is pretty nice and I have no complaints.

Overall I thought this was a pretty nice beer and a nice example of the style, it was a little weird for a stone beer to be focused more on the malts than the hops, but it turned out to be a pretty nice and complex beer and I liked it. This beer had nice drinkability, I could drink the full bottle, but I think one glass is the perfect amount for me. What I like the most about this is the complexity, there's a good amount of different aroma and flavors that all work well together. What I liked the least about this beer was the appearance, I wish it had better head and lacing I would buy this beer again if they make it again and I would recommend it giving it a try if you want a unique and malty beer. All in all I liked this one, it's a little different than a typical Stone beer and I like that. It's not my favorite Stone beer and it'a above average for the style. Nice job guys, this is a pretty solid and complex beer.

May 31, 2016
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clayrock81 from Florida

4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a copper body with a little bit of lace and a tiny lace ring. Caramel and toffee hits me first in the aroma, then has this dark fruit vibe like figs but I'm not sure what I'm smelling. Smooth, medium to heavy body, has an almost sticky sweetness that isn't just caramel-like but comes across as toffee, figs and raisins, and there is dry, hoppy bite to this beer that pokes through with booze on the backend.

May 22, 2016
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TheSixthRing from California

4.19/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottling date of 11/08/15

Appearance - Pours mostly clear and deep reddish copper in color with a sandstone, finger-width head. Fair retention, then dissipates to reveal a thin, broken layer of suds. Lacing consists of broken sheets and small spotting.

Smell - Grain and caramel malt with hop that hits on floral character with lighter citrus sitting beneath.

Taste - Follows the nose. Actually, maybe more floral hop character than anything, with lesser grain and caramel malt sweetness and touch of citrus in the finish. Moderate notes of toffee. Spice from the rye. A bit of walnut shell. Well balanced throughout with a lingering, bittersweet aftertaste touching on grain and citrus pith bitterness.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with moderate carbonation. Velvety texture makes it slick on the tongue with a mostly dry finish.

Overall - This is a pretty damn good beer. One that seems to age well (now at 6 months), though I now wish I'd have tried it fresh. I'm glad to see a brewery exploring the boundaries of malt experimentation while adding in the complimentary hops to make it quite interesting. Thank you, Stone!

May 12, 2016
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stortore from Illinois

4.13/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into a tulip glass.

A dark amber pour, a little opaque, with a big two and a half finger head and lots of lacing. As advertised, the smell is citrusy and piney hops, malt, caramel, a light bready aroma, some rye. Taste brings a little more malt up front. Hops seem a little more earthy and dank, but still some citrus as well- orange, mostly. Caramel, a grainy flavor overall, but I couldn't tell your what grain. Not overly bitter. Smooth, kind of a silky feel, solid body.

Lots of hops, a different kind of feel. Very enjoyable to drink. Solid effort.

Apr 20, 2016
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craftbeersweden from Sweden

4.14/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

At Stone Brewing Total Tap Takeover at The Rover yesterday (April 18, 2016) I got to try this beer.

A little hazy, red beer with a thin head.
Lot of malt here! Caramel, grain, rye, citrus, pine and wheat.
Medium body and carbonation. Dry ending.

Lovely!

Apr 19, 2016
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ONUMello from Ohio

3.87/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle dated 11/13/15 poured into a pint glass
A: Slightly hazy brown with a one-finger head
S: Tons of plain & roasted malt & grain along with hops and caramel
T: Matches the nose. Malt forward, a touch sweet with caramel but then hops and a bit of earth to add structure
M: Medium-bodied, a touch sweet
O: As many beers showcase the hops these days I appreciate one that puts its focus on the malts. That being the case there are so many here they all make a blend that's a bit sweet and hard to focus anything particularly unique. That being said, a tasty brew overall worth a try

Apr 14, 2016
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Brutaltruth from Ohio

3.94/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed from the big bottle in a snifter. This unique ale pours a beautiful reddish mahogany with a fantastic head of light tan foam that settles to a thick ring, nice pool, and excellent lacing. Nose of sweet malts, spicy rye, and breaded malts draped over earthy bittering and citrus hops. Flavors exceed the nose with nice spicy grains of rye and a ton of caramel malt awash in breaded grains on all sides. Spicy hops mingle nicely with the rye and buckwheat flavors on the middle and cut through the strong syrup flavors. Improves nicely with warmth with a medium high carbonation making for a lively mouth feel, and a moderately bitter sweet finish with citrus notes of grapefruit and lemon zest on the back. Unique and crush-able. Interesting.

Cheers

Mar 31, 2016
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bnes09 from Illinois

3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pungent, unrelenting, dank, herbal, soapy hop with a solid malt backbone which struggles to balance. Bone dry finish. Good flavor. Just a little unbalanced.

Mar 30, 2016
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REVZEB from Illinois

3.65/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Turbid brown opaque body, tan cap. Grainy, robust malt, resinous citrus and piney hops, crazy and bold enough it just might work. It didn't. Gains are far too powerful to let the hops really do much besides saturate, caramel malts just pile onto the mess, almost sweet by the finish after being so grainy and robust up front, like it devolves through the sip. Feel is heavy, grainy, and generally saturated but not in an artful way

Mar 24, 2016
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brewskifan55 from Mississippi

3.96/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a taster glass.

A: Clear amber with a tan one finger head that left all of a sudden. Decent lacing.

S: Lots of smells going on here. Wheat, rye, citrus, pine and bready malts.

T: Starts off with an Arrogant Bastard hop forward taste that transcends into rich grains of wheat and rye. Malts take round 2. Then citrus and pine mingle for another round of "all over the place" tastes.

M: Medium with medium, dry carbonation.

O: I really didn't know what to expect, but the taste is awesome. A real hybrid flavor bomb.

Mar 17, 2016
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metter98 from New York

3.93/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is clear but dark caramel amber in color and has a moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a short beige head that quickly died down, leaving a collar consisting of large bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of citrusy and piney hops are present in the nose along with notes of caramel malts.
T: The taste is very similar to the smell, except that the caramel malts are a slight bit stronger and the hops contribute a moderate amount of bitterness. Some hints of other grains are noticeable.
M: It feels medium-bodied and quite crisp on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer has a very good balance between the malts and hops. The taste has a lot of different flavors going on due to the use of various grains.

Serving type: bottle

Mar 14, 2016
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neenerzig from Ohio

4.29/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber bottle into one of my pint glasses, this beer pours a mainly clear, medium to dark amber/copper color with a slightly tan/off-white head that's about an inch thick when first poured that eventually settles to a thick ring lining the inside of the glass along with some pretty nice lacing. Aromas of bready, slightly toasted caramel malt sweetness along with some molasses and a bit of citrus. Has a slightly toasted, brown sugary, bready, caramel malt sweetness upfront that gives way to hints of molasses. the sweetness is rounded out with a slight grapefruit/citrus, earthy, piney, and herbal/grassy hop flavor. But the sweetness does dominate just a little bit over the hop flavors. This is one of only very few beers I've ever had from Stone where the sweetness flavors outweighed the hoppyness/bitterness. It is usually the other way around to varying degrees. It is a welcome change indeed here too! Has a crisp, slightly chewy and syrupy, somewhat smooth, medium to full bodied mouthfeel with moderate carbonation. Very drinkable indeed. A great beer here to be sure! Stone manages to impress yet again! :)

Eric

Mar 13, 2016
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Seoulcraft from Korea (South)

4.21/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is an excellent imperial amber ale style. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of juicy citrus/pine hops and dark/bready malt flavors; and very smooth and easy to drink for the ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Mar 09, 2016
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Parmesan from Colorado

4.02/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L: Dark red color with Hi ts of Lighter red where light hits it, a nice creamy head and lacing all over the glass.

S: Earthy Piney hops balanced out by a nice caramel note, and grain.

T: Piney hops, little bit of citrus balanced by a nice nutty caramel backbone, and a medium bitterness.

F: Medium to full body medium carbonation, the bitterness coats the mouth quite bit.

O: A really interesting tasty beer from Stone.

Mar 06, 2016
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arizcards from North Carolina

3.99/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber from Craft Beer Hop Stop in late December for $7.99. Bottled on 11/8/15.

Beer poured mahogany with an OK white head that is leaving some lacing behind.

Nose has hints of citrus and caramel.

Taste is a nice blend of bready caramel grains and citrus and piney hops.

Feel is medium bodied and very smooth.

Overall i was impressed with this brew. It is a nice double red IPA that is fairly balanced but nicely spiced for the classic bready hoppy flavor. If it has been refrigerated pick it up if you like this style.

Mar 05, 2016
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StonedTrippin from Colorado

4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

this is one of the better stone beers i have had in a long time. probably the highlight of this series so far, which i guess isnt saying a whole lot, but this is awesome beer. on tap at jakes in littleton, it looks gorgeous in the glass. shiny mahogany colored ale with a great big tall tan head on it, rings each sip, and some resilience there. it smells less interesting in the grain than expected, although im not sure what millet smells like, if you know what i mean. it is layered, from rye bread crusts to honey graham crackers to starchy rice cakes and sweet buttery caramel, its all there. not surprisingly though, it also smells real hoppy, northwestern and bitter, but not over the top like stone often goes. its hopped up almost enough to be more of a red double ipa, at least thats how it smells. in terms of flavor, the malt base is definitely awesome. i wish i could tell what each grain contributed a little more, but the cacophonous soup is really delicious, and these oily pine branch type hops are the perfect compliment. bitter more than sweet in the finish, and the body is wonderfully sturdy but also smooth. i love this beer, it reminds me of christmas, and i swear the label reads "colon blow" under grainiac, which, for whatever its worth, is pretty amusing. some of stones better recent work in my opinion.

Mar 04, 2016
Stochasticity Project: Grainiac from Stone Brewing
Beer rating: 88 out of 100 with 272 ratings