Special Holiday Ale | Stone Brewing

very good
322 Ratings
Special Holiday AleSpecial Holiday Ale

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States

Style: Winter Warmer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
A collaboration ale between Jolly Pumpkin / Nøgne-Ø / Stone with chestnuts, juniper berry, white sage & caraway seed and 25% rye malt.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 11-23-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of imaguitargod
3.56/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Wow, what an interesting beer. Each brewery's signatures are detectable in this brew. Right away there's this farmhouse funk that comes from Jolly Pumpkin, then the smoothness of Nøgne Ø, followed by a quick bite then aftertaste of boldness from Stone. Typical Belgian Triple color and clarity but with a lot of sediment and no lacing. Very smooth as one would expect. Loads of tastes and funkiness abound in this beer, sage followed by Juniper berries then chestnut follows it into the aftertaste realm.

~Jonathan Passow

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Photo of Beerzebub
4.17/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, poured in a big wine glass at 57 F/ 14 C.

Deep red-brown color, minimal swirly film of head, fine rings of lace.

Sage dominates the aroma, with sweet syrupy malt, and noticeable caraway and juniper. There is a cutting freshness, a bit like spruce tips, that's quite attractive - maybe it's an aspect of the juniper berries. Strange, and strongly alluring.

The flavor starts surprisingly weak, like an oil that slips around on the tongue and can't make contact, but then the flavor registers, and deepens, especially warm spiciness in the back of the mouth. Toffeeish malt, with strong caraway seed, sage, and juniper. Can't pick out any chestnuts. Quite peculiar, and tasty. Long long warm spicy finish, with increasingly intense caraway and juniper, and a numbing sensation like Sichuan pepper; toasty numbing spice lingers forever.

Slippery glycerol texture, almost as odd as the flavor, and quite pleasant. Surprisingly drinkable.

Highly original, plus tasty. I enjoyed this.

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Photo of Spikester
3.6/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Dark brown with a two inch tan head. Good amount of lacings. Aroma is dark caramel and spices. Taste is spicy roasted malts and a fair taste of juniper berry. A hint of ginger too. The hopping was adequete for a winter warmer but a brown sugar mood wins out. Palate was good except for obvious alcohol level. Sort of a brown ale with a half shot of gin.
Interesting and potent beer and I enjoyed the experience but won't go looking for more. Twelve ounces was all I could handle.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.28/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. single - $2.99 at Bullock's in Marietta, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours out a seemingly heavy, opaque, brown body with a growing, lasting, off-white head.

Smell: A downright potpourri-scented aroma smelling deeply of rich notes of dark caramel-coated bread crusts, cocoa, herbaceous sage, piquant juniper berries, ground chestnut shells, miscellaneous fruit paste, and spice.

Taste: Sweet burnt caramel sauce, cocoa powder, and an earthy nuttiness upfront. A second later the prickly spicy rye deftly melds in with the other long-riding flavors. Full, though not overwhelming tastes of minty rubbed sage and juniper berries (which always sets my mind thinking about gin). Slight bitterness, leaving the other flavors to round out the sweet malts. At times you get flashes of dried cherry fruitiness, and other times some fleeting sourness. Drying, spicy, deeply earthy finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Oddly dense, questionably high, yet creamy carbonation, as if my bottle contained one of those nitrous widgets.

Drinkability: Wow! I'll admit to being a bit hesitant after reading the list of bonus ingredients. It's true, I may have even murmured "Jesus Christ" right in the middle of the liquor store on a Friday afternoon. But boy was this flavorful and simply brimming with character and tasty complexities. Also, I appreciate it being sold in twelve ounce bottles, as that seems to be just the perfect amount. I don't know about the rest of you jokers, but I'll never ever think of saying "no" to a three-way again.

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Photo of chrisafari
3.8/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Aroma: malty molasses, nuts and slight herbal spice.

Pour: dark brown w/ thin tan head.

Flavor: begins with nuts and carmel, then becomes slightly piney hops. There's also notes of cranberry and plum in the background. The finish is slightly dry w/ notes of molasses.

Mouthfeel: medium body w/ no lacing.

Drinkability: medium to high.

Overall: pretty good and definitely enjoyable. Not great, but not bad either.

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Photo of eberkman
3.93/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a deep, dark brown with red-gold highlights and clarity when held up to the light. Soft tan head diminishes steadily but leaves a nice silky sheen on the side of the glass. Not as aromatic as I would expect, but some definite winey, sherrylike smells with some ripe figs in there too. Taste is rich and complex -- figs, candied fruit, creamy toffee, winter spices and alcoholic warmth. Slightest hoppy tinge in the aftertaste. Mouthfeel is soft, smooth and creamy -- satiny smooth. OK drinkability, but a little sweet and strong for this to be anything other than a slow sipper.

Pretty darn good for a style I'm not crazy about.

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Photo of ATLbeerDog
3.92/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours dark brown with lots of red highlights. Not much of a head, less than one finger that is off white and quickly dissipates. Smells of dark fruits, alcohol, and spices fill the nose. First sip is a blast of spices...then again this is a holiday beer. None of the multiple spices seem to dominate rather they blend and mesh well with the fairly heavy rye malts. Even the yeast does not overtake or distract the beer. Very interesting.

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Photo of BARFLYB
3.9/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a La Choulette tulip. Found this while in N.Y. unexpectedly. Picked up a few at a fair price. Bottles of this would probably run 8-9 dollars easy in P.A. although i don't think this hit our fair state.

A- This collaboration ale came out the bottle with a burnt caramel color with some mustiness. As it settled in the glass away from light it appears a dark burgundy color while held up to light it resembles a nice red wine color with bubbles rising. A nice 1/2 inch tan fluffy head is at the top. Great spotty lacing.

S- A whole lot of spices including sage and some dark sweetness coming from the juniper berries. Also some sweet sugars maybe cinnamon. A floral hop scent with some rye action and malts. Noticeable nose from a foot away, very thick scented. I would love this as my car air freshner.

T- I taste the juniper berries immediately with a big dose of sage following. I'm also getting some clove and cinnamon with a great amount of sweet malt all around. The rye malt used is also well credited in the profile. Some bready qualities mixed with some grains and nuts that come with warming This holiday ale has some hop presence but they take a backseat. Some brown sugar rounds out the taste.

M- Thick and great presence all around. The spices are quite powerful and may set you back some as it took some time to get used to initially. I did not expect the malt and spice profile to be so pronounced which makes this ale all the better. The 9% is not detected at all.

D- A great ale for the winter time, although i'm good at one bottle. Hope this is a yearly collaboration from these three brewers as their respective styles mend well together. It's hard to tell which brewer's style this WW resembles the most which makes this a true collaboration. Multi layered goodness. I was expecting a bit of funk considering JP presence and got none, which is a nice change.

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Photo of stewart124
4.07/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Little bit of yeast visible at the bottom of the bottle.

Dark red to deep ruby in color with a slightly dense tan head.

The first smell i pick up is an evergreen or juniper and this is followed by a caramel sweetness. There is also a nice malty/bready character in the aroma.

The taste is quite spice dominated and it leaves a sharp bite on the tongue. This has a chewy mouthfeel and the rye adds an interesting malt background. With each sip that spice just tingles the tongue. Lots of carbonation and a pleasing maltiness that is coupled well with a nice abundance of piney hops.

I'm liking this winter warmer and could drink a few of these before I realized that it's packed with 9% alcohol. Very sneaky indeed.

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Photo of gford217
3.78/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark clear mahogany that sits underneath a small creamy beige head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves sporadic lacing.

The aroma is striking with the spices dominating, especially the juniper and sage. There are hints of hops as well the sweetness of the caramel malts.

The taste starts with a bit more sweetness than the aroma with caramel malts and dark fruits. But the spices kick back in and really shine through the finish with the juniper. The rye malts are also more evident than the aroma.

The mouthfeel is silky smooth due to the rye with soft carbonation helping this go down smooth.

This a very distinctive beer with lots of interesting spices. The spices are probably a little heavy for my liking and a little unbalance. Still a tasty brew.

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Photo of trbergman
4.25/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip.

A - Dark brown, nearly opaque beer that features ruby highlights when backlit. Plentiful, fine carbonation produces a thin but stable light tan head and plenty of attractive lacing.

S - Pumpernickel, sourdough, and sweet caramel. Aromatic sage and juniper come through later, as well as some citrusy hops.

T - Bready, nutty, with a complex, spicy character. Rye comes in early and lingers in the background through the finish with its spicy, sourdough flavor. Sublime citrus and pine flavors from the juniper berries, with the sage and chestnuts present too. Good sipping beer, with some alcohol detectable but not overpowering.

M - Full bodied and slightly piquant.

D - I wouldn't have this every day, but I'd buy it again. Really a tremendous experience, not just a drink.

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Photo of adamdotson
3.87/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark reddish brown with head color between ivory and tan. Not highly carbonated. Not much head retention.

Smells up front pretty hoppy. The particular hop aroma I am noticing reminds me of the aroma of a 60 minute. That kind of piney smell thats a little more earthy than the normal piney smell of chinook. Maybe thats from the sage. nice smellng overall. Also I get just a hint of caraway which adds nicely to the wintry mix.

The taste is nice and refreshingly herbal and not too bitter in the flavor. It has a sweet finish. Kind of reminds me of fruit cake. Long lingering finish. Where i taste a little caraway and a good bit of sugaryness.

Nice thick bodied beer. Coats the tongue. Drinkable for sure, but I wouldn't want much more than a twelve oz pour, which is what I'm having.

I like it. It's yummy although i'd personally probably like it better if Ron Jeffries brought some of his funk into the situation.

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Photo of damienblack
3.9/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours with an absolutely massive head - goes from nothing to overflowing in about 5 seconds. Leaves fluffy, sticky lacing in its wake. A rich dark brown in color. Smells like the outdoors, like maple, pine, other trees, with some sweetness accompanying.

First thought: Like I should expect from Stone, the hops dominate this brew, although unlike a lot of the others, the bitterness complements the other factors instead of dominating them. I taste pine, as expected, and also a slightly bitter maple/sap taste. Spices and dark, roasty malts form the backbone before the hops take over - I know this is classified as a winter warmer, but i don't really know what the hell to make of it. It's like a spiced, dark, winter IPA, very robust and complex. I think the sweetness also helps to lighten the bitterness at the end. It's got a great mouthfeel, silky smooth, yet full and chewy at the same time, but the carbonation seems to let up a bit after the initial gushiness. It suffers a bit on drinkability, I'm not a huge fan of IPAs from the get-go, but there seems to be something lingering in a bitter aftertaste, its not real bad, but enough to make this not the most drinkable beer. Overall though, I knew this would intrigue me, and it succeeded. It's certainly a departure from the normal, lighter winter warmers. If you're looking for something different and hoppy, this will fit the bill.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.38/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Deceptively carbonated as a vigorous pour at first doesn't produce much of a head but then it blossoms into something that overflows the sides of my 25cl tulip glass. I end up with a four finger thick, lightly browned, amber-tan colored head. The beer is a dark, amber tinged, concentrated red color that shows a brilliantly clear, deep ruby hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells of toasted malt up front but then quickly picks up a spiciness reminiscent of sweet ginger, a touch of clove, a definite juniper note and a corresponding pine-needle scent. This has an interesting berry note to it (which I suppose is the juniper) and the finish is dominated by a solid, toasted malt character.

Spicy juniper notes dominate the flavor of this beer upon my first sip. The white sage quickly kicks in though with a solid herbal, and turpene rich character in the middle. The caraway isn't really noticeable overtly like the other two spices, but likely influences my perception of a rye spiciness in the finish. The beer finishes with an herbal, green bitterness that is not from hops alone. The spices also contribute to a sort of menthol like note as well as a touch of anise flavors. The malt provides some caramelized sweetness as well as a toasted malt backbone that reminds me of lightly toasted whole grain bread; as the beer warms a touch of roast character is noticeable at times towards the finish. The malt sweetness accentuates a fruity berry character . A thick, chewy body and a viscous heft are just barely offset by the prickly carbonation; this is definitely a sipping brew.

Not bad, but way too spice dominated, the Juniper seems to be the worst offender as the caraway is quite subtle and the white sage might actually be at a good level but it is hard to tell under all the juniper flavors.

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Photo of prototypic
3.96/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: It pours a dark chestnut brown color with an attractive scarlet garnet tint to it. There's some sediment swimming around, but not a great deal. Sitting atop is a tan colored head that's about two fingers deep. It was very slow to disappear and left a nice, sticky lacing behind.

Smell: The nose is a tad weak, but is overall pretty good. It's very heavy on spices initially. There's some cinnamon, ginger, clove and pepper to be sure. But, there's additional spicy scents that I can't identify. Suffice it to say there's an abundance of spices. It's very malty and sweet smelling. There's a little bit of yeasty scent, as well as citrus scents of lemon and orange. Alcohol is mildy noticeable.

Taste: Caramel malts are sweet and provide an excellent foundation. Spices waste absolutely no time jumping in. This probably the spiciest Winter Warmer I've tried. I can pick out cinnamon, clove, ginger, and pepper, but the rest are a little to jumbled for me to identify. It's good, but maybe a little too spicy. Orange and lemon give it a citrusy sweet flavor that's nice. It's a tad yeasty, but not offensive. Alcohol is blended very well. It's noted, but not warm or hot in any way. On the tail is an ever so slight bitter taste that gives it a nice kick. Finishes spicy and a little bitter.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: It's medium bodied bordering on thick. It has a very creamy, lush feel. Very impressive. Carbonation is active, but it remains creamy. Drinkability is good. Personally, it's a little spicy and strong at 9% abv to reach a high level of drinkability. But, it's good.

Stone, Nøgne Ø, and Jolly Pumpkin. Sounds like a recipe for success. Lo and behold, it is. It's not perfect, but this collaboration holiday ale is pretty impressive. It's a little too spicy and the nose could use some "oooomph." But, it's a nice holiday treat from three very esteemed breweries. I'll take that any day of the week.

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Photo of cswhitehorse
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Collaboration ale from Stone/Nogne/Jolly pumpkin poured a dark amber color with a thin half inch foam head and some tiny sudsy bubbles on the sides of glass.

The aroma was fruity and smelled of chestnuts and spices. The taste was malty like a b-wine and the high abv made its presence known right away. It was semi burning down the throat and was slick on the tongue with a decent amount of bitterness that stayed with you. The smell really opened up as it warmed and was a good sipper. I think this one should be in the barleywine style instead of the warmer category. Overall it was a good effort fellas.

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Photo of cproioi
3.94/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark red color almost brown body with an off white head that leaves spotty lacing. The aroma is fully of sage and juniper. The taste follows, but the juniper does stand out more, with an after taste of hazelnut and some spicy hops. The mouthfeel is very dry and pleasant. Alcohol notes do become present when the beer warms. It's a very nice beer that shows good teamwork. Go Team!!

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Photo of Monkeyknife
3.53/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle a clean, dark mahogany color with a quick fading tan head.

The aroma of juniper dominates. Very strange - almost like a mentholated cough drop. Also note cinnamon, sage, and floral hops.

The taste is mush like the aroma. Heavy on the juniper (cough drop), with cinnamon, lightly toasted malts, dark ripe fruit, and light hops. The finish is sharp and heavily spiced.

Medium bodied, dry, and mildly carbonated.

I like it but it's not one I'd like to drink much of. Give me six ounces and I'm done. That cough drop thing is just too much of a distraction.

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Photo of MADhombrewer
3.28/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This was nothing like I have had before. I am not a Belgian fan because I don't really "get" the spices in beer. This has a sage note that is there for sure.

I poured this into a pint glass. There was little to no head and the retention was nill.

The color is hazy auburn. I did not think there was much of an aroma.

Taste had a little alcohol note with white sage flavor.

Mouth feel was a little thin in my opinion.

Drink ability is ok, but at 9%, it will creep up on you.

I would keep buying this beer.
This was my first review.

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Photo of charlzm
4.27/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Consumed 12/31/08 at Verdugo, Los Angeles.

Pour is amber, almost cherry colored affair. Very little in the way of active carbonation. No head save for a few stray bubbles clinging to the sides of the glass.

Aroma is sweet, powdery, floral. Pumpkins figure in there, as does gingerbread.

Flavor is spicy; the juniper provides a cinnamony heat and sage brings up the background. Also, citric flavors appear as sweet oranges. Significant caramel malt action as well.

Despite lack of head or rising bubbles, carbonation imparts a moderately sharp bite and a little tingliness to the mouthfeel.

Very interesting and flavorful, making it easy to down the bottle. A well-executed beer that I would like to have more of, please.

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Photo of msubulldog25
3.91/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer comes in a 12 oz. bottle, poured into a pint glass. Bottle label shows the interconnecting of Stone, Nøgne Ø, and Jolly Pumpkin with a symbolic triangle.

'Special Holiday Ale Brewed With Spices' is elaborated upon: 'Chestnuts, Juniper Berry, White Sage & Caraway Seed'. Huh. Brewer Kjetil Jikiun of Nøgne Ø earns the honor of writing the (lengthy) back label.

A: Very dark, a mahogany brown tinged with maroon. Very fine silt is suspended, only a few lazy carbonation bubbles rise. Head is a fine dollop of vanilla-tan cream, cresting at just above a finger and dropping gently to a thickened, pock-marked cream. Strong lace hangs in curtains, nearly obliterating the glass.

S: Husky grain, lightly toasted. Hop aroma is on the herbal side, a musty and spicy grassiness.

T: Toasty, smoky malt with a liberal dose of citrusy/spicy hops. Of the spices used in can recognize a light sage and a spicy juniper. Malts are toasted bread and roasted nuts. I get an odd saltiness, too.

M: Creamy, almost chewy, feel - heavy on the malts to the point of being coating and mildly syrupy. Clings with dark-roasted malt and a decent hoppiness, brings some phenolic warmth, indicative of the 9% ABV I suppose.

D: Good warmer, plenty 'wintry', though entirely diferrent from the plethora of others out there. From these three fine brewers I'd hoped for something magical, but instead got something acceptable. Hard to find faults with a roasty-malty-warming strong ale, but it falls only in the 'good' range for me. Sure, I'd have it again; recommended.

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Photo of PatronWizard
3.13/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Stored and served to myself at 55 degrees.

Pours a dark burgandy blood moon with a dirty white frosting that slowly falls to a film. Slow moving bubbles in a sea of thickness.

Smells like Jack and Coke, light on the Jack. Ginger?

Taste is wildly unique. A slight burn after a mouthful of spiced pumpkin. Some kind of candy. A bitterness. Lot's going on. More than I know, but not lots that I like.

The liquid is smooth enough, but that little "burn" at the end detracts from the overall enjoyment. I can't tell if it's alcohol or a particular flavor. Not bad but not something that I would drink repeatedly.

Overall: enjoyed ONCE

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Photo of Domingo
3.93/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pretty interesting collaboration! Three brewers that seem to specialize in different areas have made a nice combo brew that lives up to the reputation of all three.
Pours a pretty standard chestnut brown with a slightly off-white head that forms a thin sheen on top. This stuff pours like molasses! It's thick.
Smells malty and and even a little hoppy, but you can pick up a bit of pine-like spice. It's not spice overload, but there's some there.
At first this tastes like what I'd expect from a Stone winter warmer. A bold malty flavor followed by west coast hops. In all honesty, I was disappointed by this...until the back end hit. The juniper and caraway hit the back of your palate and really add a ton to the flavor. What seemed boring became great about 1/2 second later.
I've had beers spiced in similar ways (Yule Fuel from the Bull & Bush) but never in combination with a west coast bold beer as the base.
It's thick and you'll likely never go for more than one - but I don't think any beer like this is really shooting for a session.
I like this a lot, and a bottle was "only" $3.50, which says a lot considering what I bet went into it.
This is a great spiced WW!

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Photo of jujubeast6000
3.56/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed 12/30/2008 (bottle):

Pours a dark brown reddish color body, with a smallish off-white head. Coriander or maybe juniper, floral aroma. Spiciness and some sweetness too. But not very strong. Sweet spicy taste, very wintery. Floral taste. Very soft and creamy mouthfeel. A little hot, some dark fruit taste. A nice light-tasting spiced beer.

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Photo of djeucalyptus
4.17/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

pours a rich dark cocoa brown that glows ruby up to the light. A gentle pour yielded a half-finger head of a dark khaki color that faded fairly quickly leaving only a trace of lacing.

aroma is fairly winter-warmer-ish, with a strong malt profile with some rich caramel aromas and a decent dose of spices. A good bit of sage comes through in the spice bill... impressive.

taste is interesting and confusing. There's a ton going on, but at the same time, it blends so nicely together it's hard to pick it apart. Malt dominates, with sweet caramel notes and dark fruit, raisins, prunes and cherries. There's a delicious rye character through the middle with a hint of rye spice There's some nice pine (juniper?) bitterness on the finish. The spicing is exceptional, as it's definitely present but not over the top. And all of the flavors impeccably merge together. At times, both sage and caraway aroma are perceptible on the tongue.

Mouthfeel is flat out incredible. Smooth, silky, just enough soft carbonation that flat didn't even cross my mind. Sipping on this brew may be the most enjoyable thing about it. alcohol is present, but no where near as strong as I'd expect.

An incredibly solid brew. Delicious in every aspect. I wish the aroma was a touch more powerful, but I'll let it slide. A delicious brew that must be tried. The spicing is well executed without really seeming like a "spiced brew." A must try - at least once.

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Special Holiday Ale from Stone Brewing
3.92 out of 5 based on 322 ratings.
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