Baird / Ishii / Stone Japanese Green Tea IPA | Stone Brewing

Baird / Ishii / Stone Japanese Green Tea IPABaird / Ishii / Stone Japanese Green Tea IPA
BA SCORE
3.93/5
1,395 Ratings
Baird / Ishii / Stone Japanese Green Tea IPABaird / Ishii / Stone Japanese Green Tea IPA
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.10%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Our style of brewing has always been about taking chances. It’s an extension of our “what-if” mentality, wherein we ask ourselves what would happen if we did things differently in the brewhouse, such as fermenting with a different strain of yeast or, in the case of this beer, incorporating whole-leaf green tea imported from Japan. The answer, embodied in this IPA when we first released it in 2011, was something truly magnificent, delicious and, as proven by the reissued edition you hold in your hand in 2015, worth brewing again. But what if we changed it? Yes, it’s riskier to change something most people thought to be liquid perfection, including our two-time collaborators Bryan Baird of Japan’s Baird Brewing Company and Toshi Ishii, a former Stone brewer and the founder of Guam’s Ishii Brewing Co., but we’ve found that, when approached with cautious curiosity and logic-driven creativity, reward often follows such risk. So, in bringing this IPA back to life, we followed the same recipe developed four years ago, but exchanged Pacifica hops from New Zealand, a hop-growing region that was becoming popular in 2011, for Helga hops from Australia, an area with a burgeoning botanical scene right now. The result is an IPA that’s as bright, herbaceous and bitingly hoppy as the one that’s had our fans requesting its return ever since its depletion from store shelves, but with a modern, hop-driven twist that makes this second draft unique and tasty in its own right.

2011 version is 9.2%
2015 version is 10.1%

2011 used NZ pacifica hops
2015 used AU helga hops

Added by HopHead84 on 07-10-2011

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#5,530
Reviews:
464
Ratings:
1,395
pDev:
12.72%
Bros Score:
4.17
 
 
Wants:
120
Gots:
295
Trade:
3
HISTOGRAM
 
User Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 1,395 |  Reviews: 464
Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a cloudy dirty beige color ale with a great large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of strong floral hops is dominant and very enjoyable. Taste is also dominated by strong floral hoppy notes with light bitterness level and a bready malt backbone that is quite solid. Body is full with limited filtration and good carbonation. Very well brewed and very interesting to drink though I can’t say the tea really made much of a difference atste-wise.

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Photo of LXIXME
3.36/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from an inch or so above or so above the glass give you a really big white head that slow fades into a pretty decent lacing above a particle filled but otherwise clear honey golden color.

Pine, sour citrus leaning towards lemon, with some floral yet herbal hops aroma.

Light pine with some citrus hops taste with a slight sour bend to it.

A dry almost puckering aftertaste on this medium bodied IPA that is pretty decent but lacks the hops bite I kinda like in Imperial IPA's.

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Photo of largadeer
3.77/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of zestar
3.75/5  rDev -4.6%

Photo of superspak
4.3/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, best before 4/2/2015. Pours slightly hazy golden orange color with a 2 finger dense and rocky off white head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice dense soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of big grapefruit, lemon zest, orange peel, green tea, light pepper, light pine, herbal, floral, grass, honey, light caramel, bread, and herbal/grassy earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good balance and complexity of citrus/floral hops, earthy tea, and moderate malt notes; with great strength. Taste of big grapefruit, lemon zest, orange peel, pine, light pepper, green tea, herbal, floral, grass, honey, light caramel, bread, and herbal/grassy earthiness. Fair amount of spicy pine/herbal bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of grapefruit, lemon zest, orange peel, pine, light pepper, green tea, herbal, floral, grass, honey, light caramel, bread, and herbal/grassy earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Fantastic balance and complexity of citrus/floral hops, earthy tea, and moderate malt flavors; with a great malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a smooth, crisp, and fairly sticky mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming present after the finish. Overall this is an outstanding tea spiced IPA. All around awesome complexity and balance of citrus/floral hops, earthy tea, and moderate malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink for the big ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Photo of Boone757
3.92/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of mothman
1.27/5  rDev -67.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

This is one of the worst beers I have ever had. The green tea dominates this beer so much that that I feel like I am drinking China. Not in a good way. Carbonated green tea water. Herbal and earthy hops. Miserable to drink even 4 ounces of this beer.

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Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of dbrauneis
3.84/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2011 Collaboration

A: Pours a hazy to cloudy golden peach in color with some very light amounts of visible carbonation and some orange and golden yellow highlights. There are significant amounts of white particles in suspension. The beer has a finger tall off-white head that redues to a medium sized patch of very thin film covering the surface of the beer with a thick ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Light to moderate aromas of citrus/orange hops along with some lighter notes of green tea.

T: Upfront there is a light to moderate flavor of pale malts with a light amount of wheat. There are light to moderate flavor of citrus/orange hops and some light notes of green tea. Light to moderate amounts of bitterness which lingers for quite a while.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth and slightly crisp with moderate amounts of dryness in the finish.

O: This beer has really held up surprisingly well considering the style - the alcohol is well hidden and the hop flavors has not really faded much over time. I liked this better than a lot of the Stone beer as this has a slightly different hop profile.

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Photo of jlindros
3.65/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Very light fizzy head fades almost instantly over hazy sediment filled orange honey colored beer.

Nose had nice hops, light grapefruit and citrus, bit floral, hints of earthy spicy and candy hops, then some sweet malts, hint if reddish crystal malts and hint if booze, slight fruit too like candied apple, and if i really try I get hints of an herbal green tea.

Taste is unique, a combination of ipa, fruit, and light iced green tea. Hops bring a decent bitterness, earthy almost chewy and candy hops, hints of citrus and grapefruit. Also sweet malts with light reddish caramel malt and slight sweetness. Light fruit, again slight apple and herbal green tea flavor in the background. Finishes still a bit bitter which gets stronger after the swallow is gone long bitterness, some light sticky malts, and light fruit and tea linger. Light hint of booze hidden well behind the hops and sweet malts.

Moth is a big bigger bodied, decent carb, slight hint of booze.

Overall interesting, not my fav, malts are a bit much, and hop flavor isn't as pronounced as the bitterness, bit bigger than I would want for a beer with tea esp in the summer. It would have been a lot better as a 6% lighter ipa where the tea can actually come out more and the hopflavor overpowers the malty sweetness and bitterness.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
4.03/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

On-tap 3/6/2015 at Track 84 in Warwick, RI, served in a goblet glass.

A: The beer is a deep gold color, with a large off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains fruity citrus, floral hops, tea and caramelized malts.

T: The taste starts out very sweet with flavors of citrus and caramel. Then some herbal tea flavor comes along with a strong hops presence. The malt character is hearty and brings a good balance. The after-taste is slightly hoppy.

M: Crisp and very smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty, goes down very easily, not too filling, deceptively strong kick, very good representation of style, this is a solid beer to drink for a while when you want a 2IPA that is just a little bit different.

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Photo of oberon
3.88/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A beer for a real good cause,I had to buy a few.Poured into a standard pint a medium golden with a tinge of orange,a thinner but well sustained white head atop.Aromas are a little thin with citric hops predominant,not much malt presence there.Flavors are citric hops with the herbalness of green tea coming in late,a biscuit base holds up well into the finish.The green tea for me plays a bigger role than many others who reviewed this beer but its not something over the top,again Iam glad I grabbed a few.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.58/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at ChurchKey. Served in a snifter.

Pours a moderate orange-caramel color with a good off-white head and a bit of lacing on the way down. Nose brings hints of green tear, which was luckily less than I was expecting. Along with that was some light citrus hops with a bit of lemon ans spice. Flavor was a bit of tea, though had more in the hop department. Some tea dryness and quite a bit of bitterness in the finish. I was afraid that they would go over the top with the tea, but this turned out quite nice.

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Photo of nickfl
3.68/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Gagnonsux
3.98/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Ciocanelu
4.25/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Kegatron
3.88/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle in my Stone IPA flute.

The pour initially looks like a clear copper in the glass but holding it up to the light actually reveals a good bit of suspended solids floating throughout the liquid. The head on this consists of roughly 3 billowy fingers of bright white foam, which retains with a tight ½ finger of froth that then leaves some heavy swathes of lace sticking to the sides of the glass. That tea stands right out in the aroma, mingling with some more floral accents and then being cut through by notes of bitter citrus and a strong fresh piney feel. Some sweeter fruit character and malt pretty much gets relegated to the back here and I’m a bit bummed to find some stiff warmth emerge as this warms.

Like the nose, grapefruit and pine have some assertiveness on the palate, while some brighter fresh fruit flavors (I’m really getting some orange and lemon zest out of this) pushes out from the edges of the profile. That fruit works its way into the backend here, melding with the sweet sugars of the malt and then lingering with a final steady pithiness from the bitterness. The tea flavor is present throughout the taste and while it does have a somewhat general herbal texture to it, it’s not coming off as strong as what you would normally find being given off from hops and I’m therefore finding it a bit more quenching on the palate than I would have thought. The mouthfeel has some heft to it but it seems just shy of calling it full bodied. This does has a firmness to the carbonation, which is interwoven with a silky oiliness and herbal textures that at least help work the overall feel into more of a smooth crispness in the mouth. That over 9% ABV is the real WTF here for me, as it’s not necessarily hot or even overly warm but it just starts to wear on the palate after a while. I just don’t understand why it needs to be that high with this beer.

There definitely some things to like with this latest Stone Collaboration but then also some things that didn’t quite work for me as well. I really liked the use of the tea here. It worked well not only with the type of bitterness that was present but also the fruit flavors that those Pacifica and Sorachi Ace hops brought to the table as well, giving the flavor profile a well tuned and refreshing feel. Unfortunately, I don’t think that this translated nearly as well to the aroma, which I often struggled to really get any kind of robustness out of (which may have something to do with the age of this more than anything) and as mentioned before, that too-high ABV just kills any kind of thirst quenching drinkability that the flavor was trying so hard to bring to the table. Overall though, there was more to like than dislike here and I’d love to see more experimentation with tea-infused IPAs from all of the breweries involved. This one is one worth checking out if you see it on the shelf.

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Photo of billab914
3.77/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Dogfish glass. It poured a murky orange color with a thin white head filling the top half inch of the glass. Decent head retention as I drank it.

The aroma has a juicy, citrusy hop profile to it. I get some grapefruit flavors mixing with some more tropical and juicy pineapple and mango notes. The tea is pretty reserved in the aroma, I don't think I would have picked up on it if I didn't know it was there.

The taste is where more of the tea flavors show up. I get some juicier, bright hoppy notes at first. In the finish the hoppiness turns more towards a bitter, grapefruit, citrus rind flavor. The tea shows up midway and lasts through the finish. It gives it a kind of smooth, light herbal flavor. it actually works pretty well with the IPA flavors.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being moderate. Overall I thought it was a very good IPA. The tea brought some interesting flavors, but managed to not overpower the beer flavors. Very drinkable and flavorful beer overall.

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Photo of vfgccp
4.27/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A – Bright, orange gold. White head settles into a medium halo.

S –Light, floral hop character. Honey, orange blossom and a hint of sweet grapefruit. No green tea in the nose really.

T – Soft and mellow profile. Distinct, dry green tea opens the profile before hiding behind a honey and herbal center. The green tea returns on the backend and lingers through the finish.

M – Soft, medium body with low carbonation and a soft bitter finish.

O – A masterful execution of the brewer’s vision, with great green tea flavor. Stunningly quite booze for 9.2%.

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Photo of atrocity
3.88/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of mendvicdog
2.73/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

stale green tea and other cringeworthy spices

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Photo of Gkruszewski
3.81/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of PhineasMcClintock
4.25/5  rDev +8.1%

Photo of russpowell
3.83/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours an effervescent honey color with 3+ fingers of cream colored head. Outstanding head retention & lacing...

S: Grassyness, cattiness

T: Follows the nose, a little leafy hops, a little green tea. Much herbalness & cattiness as this warms, a little dryness & grapefruit pith as well, a little bit of clove as well. Finishes with woody & herbal hops, a little grapefruit pith

MF: Medium bodied, lively carbonation, pretty good balance

This is pretty good, but I've a had a least one of this that was better ( Mother's version)

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Baird / Ishii / Stone Japanese Green Tea IPA from Stone Brewing
Beer rating: 3.93 out of 5 with 1,395 ratings
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