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Stone / The Alchemist / Ninkasi - More Brown Than Black IPAStone / The Alchemist / Ninkasi - More Brown Than Black IPA

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Stone Brewing
California, United States

Style: American Black Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.40%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by HopHead84 on 12-20-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 648 |  Reviews: 255
Reviews by znichols:
Photo of znichols
4.45/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A-dark dark brown ale. Looks slightly lighter than a meager porter. The creme colored head sits on this thing for ages! Tons of spider web lacing too. Little residual hop pieces. This looks unfiltered.

S-pineapple and coffee. Perhaps a little grass and pine. This smells great. Subtle roastiness and lots of fruity hops. Wow.

T-the flavor on this beer is exceptional. Starts with creamy milk and sugar coffee. This leaves quick and makes way for grapefruit and piney hops. Slightly smoky with a little booze in the finish. This is great. Hoppy with subtle roast and biscuit. Decent amount of bitterness.

M- prickly with a medium body and little carbonation. Oily mouthfeel. Not bad.

O- this beer is great. I know its not a "black" ipa, but I consider this the quintessential american dark ale. Similar flavors to sublimely self rightous but a little more drinkable and it has more of a citrusy hop flavor as opposed to piney. Very good beer.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of oberon
4.11/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a standard pint a somewhat murky chesnut brown with a nicely formed one finger off white head that left a ful ring of lace as it settled into a frothy mass.Grapefuit-like hop aromas are the only thing I really pick up in the nose wich is a good thing but nothing else.Grapefuit is the main attraction on the palate with mild pine,a sturdy not so sweet malt base hold up pretty well to the hops,I gotta tell ya it's like drinking grapefruit juice with a prickly finish.This is a no holds bard for the hop lover and I like it.

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Photo of ricksrealm
4/5  rDev -2.2%

Photo of BenTherHppedThat
4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.58/5  rDev +12%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Alchemist collaboration?? Yes Please!!

Pours into my glass a deep muddy brown that yes, is almost black. A half inch of frothy, creamy khaki head sits atop the brew and leaves nice lacing. Aromas are big, bright tropical fruit hop tones right off the bat. Resinous and oh so nice. Pine, grapefruit and bright citrus. Just a touch of roasted malt underneath..the color is definitely deceiving from the smell here. Hops galore!

First sip brings a blast of hop goodness upfront..tropical citrus, grapefruit and pine in a resinous green cavalcade. Smooth roasted malts back it up but the roast is really low key and lets the hops shine through and do the majority of the work. Solid bitterness on the way down. Just a great beer.

Mouthfeel is smooth and medium bodied. Great carbonation and overall just an easy drinking brew that I really can't say anything bad about. Mouthfeel is basically perfect. Overall, this is easily my favorite collaboration beer put out by Stone. Cheers to Alchemist / Ninkasi and Stone on this one. Go get some!

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Photo of 3HovsepiansBrews
3.5/5  rDev -14.4%

Photo of warnerry
4.2/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours deep brown with some reddish highlights. Two fingers of tan head has pretty good retention and leaves some lacing.

S - Lots of citrus, mostly grapefruit, with some pine and some nutty malts.

T - Taste is a nice melding of an IPA and a brown ale. Zesty citrus with some pine. The name is quite apt as the malt profile is more nuts and bread, with only subtle chocolate notes. I think this works much better than the malts used in black IPAs. Very tasty and quite bitter.

M - Medium mouthfeel with lots of dry bitterness throughout.

O - I enjoyed this more than most of the black IPAs I've had. The malt profile seems more complementary to the intense hopping.

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Photo of Britton
4.5/5  rDev +10%

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

Photo of Jason
3.8/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz brown bottle, no freshness date.

LOOK: Hazed brown, good lacing

SMELL: Mint, citric zest, earthy, leafy, spicy, toasted biscuit

TASTE: Bitter, orange oil, tobacco, chicory, carob, toasted grain, dry finish

Warming story behind the beer, as for the beer is gets all up in my grill ... In a good way. Hops slap my palate around a bit and the malt is enough foundation to keep this beer somewhat balanced. Nice twist to on the versatile American IPA style.

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Photo of Billolick
4.2/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Single 12 ounce bottle, purchased for $4 and change(!) at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY

"Drink Fresh-Do Not Age" on bottle, but only dating I can find is after the bottle blurb from Mitch Steele, November 2011.

Pours darker mahogony brown, medium mocha head, stays well, before going to a nice film, collar and ample lace.

Bright, hoppy and acidic nose.

Biting and flavorful IPA, citric, herbal, and quite bitter. Some dark malts riding behind the hop onslaught. Loved it, well done, expensive, but worth a try, especially to support a good cause

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Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer No. 3,700 for me. The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is a mix of lightly roasted malt, chocolate and resinous pine. The flavor is similar, with a good bit of pine, resin and a hint of orange. I also get some lightly roasted malt and a bit of chocolate. The bitterness is fairly low, but the hop flavor - particularly the pine notes - really stand out. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A nice collaboration. Glad I got to try this one.

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Photo of standardcherry
3.75/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

Photo of ehammond1
3.88/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On Tap

Churchill's Pub & Grille
San Marcos, CA

Dark brown with ruby edges and a thin light brown head. Rings and sticky sheets of lace are left down the glass.

The aroma consists of plenty of pine and citrus hop presence, along with a mild roast component, especially as the beer warms.

The flavor is similar, with pine and grapefruit hop flavors dominating, with a bit of biscuit and roasted malt complementing the hops nicely. A well balanced, drinkable, and not overly aggressive black ale--especially compared to Stone's 15th Anniversary Escondidian.

Medium mouthfeel with ample carbonation--crisp and disappearing.

A good example of the style, but not quite as exciting, bright, or vibrant as 15th Anniversary, or SSR for that matter.

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Photo of jefftuck47
3/5  rDev -26.7%

Photo of jminch
5/5  rDev +22.2%

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.5/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Alright it's always to catch a collaboration beer this one just so happened to occur by chance, I wasn't seeking it just showed up at the local. Pours a pretty dark color, label says more brown than black IPA I'll give 'em the fact that it does let some deep ruby chestnut hues of brown but appears black when not held toward the light. Head is beautiful a rotund layer of creamed coffee froth, fine even lacing. Let me get into the aroma, citrus zest, herbal hops, pine with fresh minty leaves something so fresh and earthy about the whole roasted malt expression going on. Flavor is a rush to the green, heral mint notes blended nicely with the dark roasted malts flowing across the palate at the same time. Nice due to the fact that there isn't a rush of black patent malt that overbears the hops everything lives in harmony here and I can appreciate that. I'm actually enjoying the dry bitter mouthfeel left behind in each sip, it works with a light to medium bodied resinously hopped beer like this. Carbonation levels are smooth and mellow and flavors is HELLO, damn tasty. Overall a dark beer I can get with even though the whole black IPA this white IPA that IPA phase is getting to be burdensome on effortless/untouchable style known as IPA. Just start making up other names the only connection to IPA these beers have are hop levels. No true connection to the origins of beer being transported from England to India, WTF? I like Cascadian Dark Ale.

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Photo of rudylaw
4.5/5  rDev +10%

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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of jeonseh
3.63/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a FFF tulip

A - Dark chestnut that lends itself to the more brown than black name. Had a light mocha one finger head that slowly disintegrated but left some nice lacing

S - Grapefruit is the main scent in the nose and I also get hints of orange juice and light lemon peel. Not too fragrant overall though.

T - At first, there is a light malt sweetness before the hops kick in. I get a slight pine at first before strong grapefurits come in, almost causing your mouth to pucker. The grapefruit lingers on in the finish well after the beer is gone.

MF - Lighter in the body with low carbonation. A bit light overall. Leaves a nice sticky hop resin on the tongue in the finish.

O - Nice, strongly hopped beer as you would expect from this three breweries. Really brings a strong grapefruit that really lingers on in the finish for a very long time. I wish the nose brought a little more flavor and punch to it as you don't get much there. Would love to get some more of these Stone collaborations to try

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Photo of richkrull
5/5  rDev +22.2%

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

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4.5/5  rDev +10%

Photo of gregb13
3.81/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Saw this and picked it up on a whim at the local bottle shop. Let me say that the aroma of this brew is absolutely superb: Wonderful melange of citrus, hop, sweet fruit. The aroma far surpasses the taste, which is similar to Stone's 15th Ann. Escondidian brew.

Not bad at all, but I found the flavours to be a little all over the place. Man if the taste was like the aroma, this would be an A+ beer for sure. Still, not bad. I'd pick it up.

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