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Ken Schmidt / Iron Fist / Stone Mint Chocolate Imperial Stout | Stone Brewing

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208 Reviews
Ken Schmidt / Iron Fist / Stone Mint Chocolate Imperial StoutKen Schmidt / Iron Fist / Stone Mint Chocolate Imperial Stout
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.60%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by UCLABrewN84 on 09-22-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Reviews:
208
Ratings:
731
Avg:
4.07
pDev:
23.34%
 
 
Wants:
111
Gots:
101
For Trade:
2
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Photo of RuckusDu
3.27/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

After the pour the head just kept growing to well over two fingers. Foam is a stout standard cappuccino color. It sticks around a while and leaves decent lacing when it leaves. Aroma is of Andes mints, chocolate, and some nuts. Really just what you would expect. Flavor is way too burnt for me. Roasted chocolate, coffee, and not a lot of mint. I am not digging this. Mouth is too drying but nice carbonation.

Overall it started off well but fell downhill quick. Bitter and burnt.

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Photo of Keffa
3.86/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Live review.

Bottle purchased at Winerak, poured into my 18oz snifter.

A: Pours a pitch black, 4 finger dark tan head tinged with a pinkish/red at the bottom, settles in about 2 minutes, but leaves lacing everywhere from very micro sized bubbles. Legs on the glass when tilted. Nice retention to the head. Very nice looking beer.

S: Wooo buddy, I bet this is hoppy. Herbal hop is up front, along with roast and a little chocolate, though not to the extent that you'd expect from the name. Mint is buried in the background with a little alcohol heat.

T: Yep, hoppy. Super bitter, herbal and resinous hop mixes with a little chocolate, a lot of roast, a little ash, and hidden in the back is that elusive mint. It's almost like they added the mint as a cooling effect to try and balance the amount of hops. A little alcohol heat detectable, but doesn't detract from the flavor. This one could use some time to mellow, but then that mint would probably disappear completely.

M: Oily, coating, but thin for an imperial stout. Nice carbonation though. Finishes bitter and long.

O: Pretty solid for what it is. A little less hops (did I really just say that?!?) might make this one better.

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Photo of bifrost17
4.4/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a brandy snifter

A: Just as you would expect, pitch black, not quite opaque, but very dark. Really nice looking light brown head. Tiny hints of red at the bottom of the glass. Leaves some really awesome web lacing on the glass.

S: Wow!!! Andes mints!!! This beer smells incredible! Up front it smells like taking a handful of fresh mint leaves and rubbing them around in your hands, followed by a rich milk chocolate scent, almost like a Hersheys milk chocolate bar. I get a slight whiff of the alcohol at the end, but I like that smell in imperial stouts, and at 9.6% I'd expect to detect hints of the booze.

T: The taste doesn't quite match up to the smell. I get the mint up front, then a little bit of the chocolate in the middle and then it all kind of dies out at the end. Seems to be that the taste is a little more muted than the nose. I like that the mint is kind of subtle, and really enjoy the mint aftertaste it leaves in my mouth. Alcohol is very well hidden, only a slight warming on the way down.

M: So damn nice. Silky smooth, velvety, almost chocolate mouse like character. Not overly carbonated, yet not flat. Perfect balance.

O: I've been dying to try this beer, and it did not disappoint. I picked up 2 bottles today, one to drink now, and one to save for another time, but I think I'm going to have to track down some more bottles because I'm going to be too tempted to drink the other bottle that I have. Big thanks to Ken Schmidt for coming up with such a beautifully balanced, and well crafted beer, and also thank you to Stone, and Iron fist for being able to re-create it on a commercial level so we could all try it.

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Photo of bonkers
4.07/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a snifter, jet black with a thin white head. Big hint of mint on the nose, some chocolate. It taste a little like mint chocolate chip ice cream, but with a pleasant bitterness. The mint lingers for a bit. IMO the body is a bit thin, light carbonation, no detectable alcohol. I liked it but did not love it.

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Photo of whoneeds8
4.13/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip glass deep black with a thick brown head. Great lacing all the way down the glass. Scent is strong of mints and chocolate malts. I almost also sense a marshmellow scent as well. The taste lives up to the name, it's mint and chocolate. There's a slight hint of hop bitterness. The body is thick as it should be, but alcohol burn is a little high. Overall: I really wish they'd make more of this.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
4.2/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a tame black liquid as it should with a small off-white head that dissipates quickly leaving a small dirty white cap, minimal lacing

S: Big roastiness and cocoa upfront with a good dose of mint playing backup.

T: A great tasting, dark chocolate, light coffee and roastiness with a good healthy amount of mint to keep it nice and drinkable. The finish is rather clean, tasty while the body is full.

M: Nearing full bodied, well carbonated, cocoa, mint and coffee dance on the palate

O: A good beer that good have gone wrong. The taste is good, no major flaws and the ABV was pretty well hidden.

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Photo of sukwonee
4.58/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Ok, this beer is amazing. Let me just start there.

12oz bottle poured into my brandy snifter

A: Black as in... black body with about a half a finger light brown head that lasts a long long time. Good amount of lacing.

S: Straight forward. Dark chocolate and mint. Some hops. Smells like chocolate mint ice cream.

T: Wow... chocolate, mint, roasty malt, bitter hops towards the end, perfect amount of minty-ness and sweetness... amazing. Some folks may be put off by the mint taste (because it's definitely there) but I think it really adds to the flavour without being artificial.

M: It's thick, chewy, nice. Relatively god amount of carbonation for the style.

O: wow. I am so glad I picked up multiple bottles. I may try to go get more. I am not a big mint chocolate flavour person, but this beer is just awesome. I actually think that over time, this beer will even be better as the mint flavour mellows out (as... again, I am not a fan of mint flavoured.. anything).

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Photo of AdamBear
4.43/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A-dark brown, almost black with a thin tan head

S-fresh chalky cocoa, with a hint of mint, but just a hint. mostly a pretty decent milk chocolate scent. medium strength

T-comes in with a deep roasted taste of cocoa, almost like really thick chocolate milk. this taste lasts well in to the after-taste. there's a certain freshness in the after-taste that might be considered minty. if i wasn't looking for mint, i wouldn't taste it at all. it has a good chalky thickness though that really sticks to the inside of the mouth. there's just a small bitterness in it. its awesome.

M-really thick and chalky. heavy carbonation with a semi-dry finish

O-this is actually a really good stout. the part of me hoping to try something odd and exciting was let down, as the mint didn't quite make it to the field. the part of me hoping for a decent beer was quite pleased. this is awesome, i wouldn't even attach the mint title to it. just called in the awesome chocolate stout. really though, it tastes like a carbonated chocolate milk shake. easy drinking, i'd love to share this with some one.

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Photo of gtermi
4.32/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer pours a nice dark black blody with a barely existent tan head that quickly fades to nothing.

S: I am getting a strong amount of chocolate and mint. It smells a lot like mint chocolate chip ice cream. I freaking love the smell of this beer. Now I will be freaking out till I get some ice cream.

T: Wow this is freaking delicious. The mint is perfect in this beer. The beer has a strong chocolate flavor too with a strong amount of bitterness. The mint doesn't last as long as I would want though because the chocolate starts to overpower the flavor. I also feel the bitterness mixes well with the sweetness.

M: There is a strong amount of carbonation and crispness on the back of the throat and all over the tonuge. It feels pretty thin, but pretty drinkable.

O: This is one of the best Colabs Stone has ever done. The flavors are exactly what I wanted out of this beer. Good job Stone, Ken Schmidt and Iron Fist... This is a world class beer IMO

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Photo of Danny1217
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with a finger of brown head. Decent retention and lacing.
Smells of chocolate, coffee, mint. A bit of a roasted character to the smell.
Surprisingly bitter for a mint chocolate stout. Nice roasted character. The mint isn't too overpowering, which is what I feared. The flavors are nicely balanced. The chocolate is done very well too, being strong but not overbearing. Very nice taste. Heavy body and medium carbonation.

Definitely worth a try, but not necessarily worth going out of your way to get again at the price, unless you're a big mint chocolate fan.

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Photo of DavidST
4.5/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a snifter glass, 2012 edition. This pours a semit thick pitch black liquit with a decent tight bubbled mocha colored head which has better than expected retention and leaves a lacing and the beer leaves legs. The smell is quite nice, you get the mint and chocolate, a much sweeter scent than a normal imperial stout, and not as much dark roasted malts. The feel is thick. The taste is pretty good, there is the load of bitterness, dark roasted malts and a hop bite, different than the smell, under that you do get the mint and chocolate. Overall this is a suburb collaboration.

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Photo of VelvetExtract
4.23/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A-Beautiful. Can't help but give it a 5. Pitch black. No light penetration. Even more impressive is the pillowy thick mocha head. The beer's head refuses to die away. Swirling leaves consistent, thick lacing deposits along my glass.

S-Mint chocolate? Yeah they nailed it. Very minty. But hey, it's very chocolatey too. Melted Junior Mints. It has a few subtle nuances, but for all intensive purposes, this beer is 1 part mint and 1 part chocolate.

T-The flavor is long and exact. All that York Peppermint Patty and Junior Mint fun. Peppermint Schnapps and Hershey's Syrup. Definite milk chocolate. They just really hit their mark with surgical precision. Also a flick of coffee and eucalyptus. Cool.

M-Full but not sludgy. Mint lingers and lingers. The mint also masks the booze quite well.

O/D-Some of Stone's 12 oz. collaborations have been awful (Cherry Chocolate Stout) and some have been delectable (More Brown Than Black). This is definitely one of their best. I like mint and chocolate but I don't love it. I don't think they could have done a better job with this beer. Pretty awesome.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.7/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle $3.99. When I saw Ken Schmidt's name on this I got excited thinking about that nice coffee macadamia beer from years back but this was not as tasty. Standard stout blackness with a coffee colored head that leaves a good lace and hangs on through the entirety of the glass. Initial aromas are dark chocolate and then later the slightest whiff of mint. The flavor seems mostly chocolate and malt to me with only the slightest touch of mint. It does have a fleeting reminder of that chalkiness you get when you bite into a thin mint but overall it is not quite a girl scout thin mint cookie (shoutout to Mountain Sun) nor an andes chocolate mint. Not bad but I won't revisit it.

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Photo of justintcoons
4.03/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip.

Appearance
Opaque black with 3 fingers of brown head. Excellent head retention. Leaves behind nice ringlets of lacing.

Nose
Cocoa nibs, charcoal, smoke, dark chocolate, vanilla and mint leaves.

Taste
Cocoa nibs, roasted barley, charcoal and light notes of smoke. Bitter dark baker’s chocolate and scorched sugars. Finishes with cooling mint leaves as well as touches of vanilla.

Mouthfeel
Medium-full bodied, smooth and silky.

Overall
The malts are very bitter, roasted and dry. The mint has a nice cooling effect to counteract that. It works very well. This is not overly minted as I had feared. Not exactly the Andes Candies flavor that everyone is boasting about. Tastes more like Turkey Hill Choco Mint Chip Icecream that been slathered on a campfire log. Definitely one of the better Stone Collaborations.

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Photo of inlimbo77
3.68/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Mint Chocolate Imp. Stout
12oz bottle, Fall 2012 release
The Bruery tulip

A: Pours pretty much pitch black. Some dark reddish colors in the brew when pouring. Nearly two fingers of bottle conditioned fluffy pillow like medium tan color. Leaves some lacing. Some alcohol feet.

S: Pulling the mint and dark chocolate in the nose. Some light roast. Nothing is as aggressive as I thought. It is like an Andes mint, but even milder.

T: Tip of the tongue you actually get more of the roasted malt character. Then you start to get all that chocolate. That fresh natural mint leaves mildness. Really a lot of the flavor comes up from the back end of the palate. Lots of deep dark cocoa and faint mint. Linger there for a while. Really bitter chocolate.

M: It's full bodied. But the high bottle carbonation makes it really easy to drink.

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Photo of clayrock81
3.8/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a blackish hue with two finger tan head that left lace patches and stuck around for a long time. The roasted malts come through heavy in the aroma, but the chocolate and mint seem subdued in my opinion. Taste and mouthfeel follow pat for me - the stoutish qualities of the beer, heavy barley and malt usage, seem to overpower the mint chocolate notes (which are very present, mind you) and it's a more of a bittersweet stout. Sturdy and full-bodied, a nice sipper with a dry finish and the alcohol hits you in a good way. I enjoyed this beer but on a personal note just wish it was a tad sweeter.

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Photo of randylangford
4.95/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I love this beer. I can't stress how much I appreciate it.

A: Deep Black with a beautiful off white head.

S: Mint Aero Chocolate bar (for Canadians) for everyone else Chocolaty with the perfect amount of mint to taste but not overwhelm the chocolate.

T: Once again a Mint Aero bar

M: Full bodied with a nice level of carbonation.

O: I would drink this beer on a regular basis. It is among the top chocolate beers that I've tasted but it adds in the perfect amount of mint to enhance without overwhelming. I very glad I got to try this and will work on tracking down some more. This beer is probably not perfect for everyone but it definitely hits the spot for me.

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Photo of DrDemento456
3.88/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Paid almost 5 bucks to try this ($4.29) so seeing the high reviews makes it worth it!

A - Very nice looking stout. Deep, dense, thick and pitch black. Head is well over an inch and sticks around for a bit. Lovely.

S - Well the cocoa nibs really do make themselves known in the glass. The only actual peppermint I got was sniffing the neck when I first opened it. Not disappointing since too much would be off-putting but I guess I expected more mint.

T - Damn this is a crap load of head. First sip is roasty and chalk full of dark chocolate notes. No real peppermint ice cream or york peppermint patty taste so I guess it could use more mint. Regardless it's a balanced stout similar to Stones Imperial except really roasty and bittering.

M - Heavy in both body and roasty flavor. Heavy.

Overall I guess like the overbearing dark chocolate/roasty flavors killed this for me. That and it totally could have use more mint.

Interesting concept but maybe would have made a better regular stout with heavier mint flavors.

edit: It does get better once you let it warm up. The bittering and roast do take a backseat, but completely drown out any chance for the mint to appear. Damn...

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Photo of Preluderl
2.98/5  rDev -26.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My first review!:

A: Pours a dark, thick chocolate brown with a medium brown head. Looks amazing.

S: I don't detect the mint much at all when first poured. Curious. Mint comes out much more as the beer warms, but still not quite what I expected.

T: A little bit of a let down, unfortunately. I barely detect the mint at all in the taste, even when warming, and the chocolate is VERY heavy on the dark chocolate notes. Almost bordering on inedible cacao.

M: Definitely coats the tongue and back of the throat. Smooth, but the taste and feel linger for a good bit.

O: A bit disappointing, I hate to say. I searched high and low in my area for this brew and definitely walked away wishing for something different.

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Photo of SadMachine
4.49/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed from notes from 11/8/12.

A- Pours a luscious pitch black with a thick light brown head that thins to half a finger and retains well. Thick lacing is left behind.

S- Light but distinct aroma of mint and dark chocolate. Some roasted coffee and malt notes also present. Upon further examination some sweet citrus and pine from hops are detected. VERY complex nose!

T- Taste opens with roasted notes, giving way to a sweet middle of mint and chocolate (big surprise! haha!). A nice bitter bite of pine, mint, and bitter chocolate give this a delightful finish!

M- The body is full, but that is slightly mitigated by good carbonation.

O- I might have expected/preferred a bit more in-your-face sweetness from a chocolate stout, but in true Stone fashion this is excellently balanced and features a good hop character. A delicious, well executed brew.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

wow, never had anything quite like this. it pours really black, deep, intense. not a ray of light showing through. a two inch bubbly mocha head rests on top. the smells is great, tons of roasted malt, big oat profile, and that york peppermint patty smell. the mint is pretty forward, but its sweet mint, not too peppery, although i think peppermint must have been used. chocolate rounds everything out, and i think its milk rather than dark chocolate, as there is a nice sweetness. flavor is real complex, mint is up front right as you sip it, but then relaxes to a big oaty stout. cant believe this is close to 10% abv, it is super drinkable, smooth in the mouth, and not gimmicky at all. id gladly have another. i could also imagine a nitro tap doing wonders for this beer, although the mouthfeel was fine without it. impressive to pull off a beer this bizarre with such drinkability. a must must try.

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Photo of fragilehearted
4.33/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle into a Duvel tulip.

A - black as night, beautiful 3-finger brown head. Good retention and patchy lacing. Pretty much what you expect from a good stout.

S - chocolate and malts first, then the mint. Which is fine with me. Sweetness, a little vanilla. Reminds me of the Stone Porter with Vanilla that I recently reviewed (a rave), so this pleases me. Not the most complex aroma in the world, but it smells wonderful. A little boozy though.

T - chocolate, cocoa powder, roasted malts, again followed by the mint. Pretty much follows the smell - lovely. Seriously, exactly as advertised, and I love it.

M - lovely and velvety. Could have been a bit thicker - again, reminding me of the porter I just reviewed. Medium carbonation was perfect, booze well-hidden for the ABV.

D/O - dangerously drinkable. I know the mint was hit or miss with some, but personally, I loved it. Anyone who tries this and dislikes it can't be horribly surprised with what they got; the beer tastes just like the name.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.35/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Received this in a great trade with MCorrea.. Thanks Matt!! Shared with Buckeyeboy.

Poured into my thin tulip... decent enough dark brown head... the brew is black... Okay retention and no lacing.

Nose delivers on the promise.. milk chocolate and mint... I think the mint has a sorta earthy almost dirty quality...

Flavor has all the same elements... but it immediately reminds me of the cheap creme de menthe candies my grandmother had around during Christmas time.. I don't care for it at all.

Body is about right for such a big stout... so is the carbonation..

I know this is not the case, but the chocolate and mint seem "fake" .. does not work in my mind... I had about half this bottle and it was too much.

3.5/3.5/3/4/3.5

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Photo of DonDirkA
4.58/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Nose is dark chocolate, roasted malts, just a hint of coffee and slight notes of mint in the back. Taste is chocolate, dark malts, a hint of mint, coffee, a bit of anise and then more minty notes come in on the back. Its more of a minty coolness at the end. The ABV is well hidden except for the heat that rises up in the stomach. This is yet another awesome Stone collaboration.

The mint comes out a bit more as it warms up and you get that minty cool sensation in your throat on the swallow. Its a pretty awesome brew, I recommend enjoying it at a little higher than fridge temp. Maybe around 50-55.

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Photo of spoony
3.58/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From a 12 oz bottle into a snifter.

A-A mildly aggressive pour produced about one finger of reddish-brown head that hung around for a bit and left nice lacing on the glass. The beer was espresso black...not pure black, but not far off. Small bubbles were visible.

S-I smelled roast malts and chocolate with a touch of mint. The mint comes on stronger as the beer warms and the smell gets a little more bitter. I also picked up a hint of molasses and dark fruit.

T-The taste has a stronger mint component than the smell, but medium to dark chocolate is the main player. The mint chocolate flavor is almost artificial tasting, and not terribly complex, but I have tasted worse things. There was a hint of bitterness on the mid-palate, but very little alcohol.

M-The beer has a rich, heavy, creamy feel, with a decent amount of carbonation for the style. The stronger-than-average carbonation offset the sweet, mint chocolate flavors.

O-This is certainly a bit of a gimmick beer, but the mint aspect of it all was not half-bad. Maybe the awesome combination of mint and chocolate was enough to coverup the somewhat artificial flavor, but I was pleasantly surprised by this beer. All that being said, I don't think I will rush out to buy it again.

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Ken Schmidt / Iron Fist / Stone Mint Chocolate Imperial Stout from Stone Brewing
4.07 out of 5 based on 731 ratings.
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