Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" | Stone Brewing

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
BA SCORE
39.6%
Liked This Beer
3.5 w/ 647 ratings
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.80%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
188
Ratings:
647
Liked:
256
Avg:
3.5/5
pDev:
14%
Alströms:
3.18
 
 
Wants:
10
Gots:
48
Trade:
5
User Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 647 |  Reviews: 188
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3.5/5  rDev 0%

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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of Thedrizzle
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of rangerred
3.73/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a pint glas

Pours pitch black with a one finger tan head. Really good rocky head retention and awesome lacing on the sides of the glass.

Aroma has the trademark Belgian yeastyness that I expect from a Saison but also a nice curveball of roasted malt with a hint of smoke. The roast and smoke are subtle but enough is there to let you know that this is not your average Saison.

This uniqueness carries over into the flavor where once again, there is a little something extra happening. Belgian yeast up front with the typical fruity flavors common in this style but there are subtle hints of caramel and burnt toast. I also pick up coffee and dark chocolate along with very faint smoke. Quite nice but then comes the mouthfeel. The mouthfeel is is full and slick with a sticky finish. Now I wonder if this is really a Saison. Where is the light crisp mouthfeel and bone dry finish? This really ruins the whole experience.

Overall, a great idea but it just doesn't work. I wonder if all the specialty malts made bone dry attenuation simply impossible? I think this might be the case but if so, then why even attempt a "smoked saison"? Nonetheless an interesting take on a classic style and worth picking up if you come across it.

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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of Cylinsier
3.12/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz.

Pours black with a brownish tint around the edges. Creamy head retains as a film.

Smells of bretty yeast, some piney hops and mildly toasty bready malts.

Tastes of pine hops and mildly citrusy grassy malts.

Medium body with tingly carbonation on the roof of the mouth.

An interesting take on a saison. The bottle says its supposed to be a smoked saison, but there's none of that in the flavor. It's just much more hoppy than a saison would normally be. Aside from that, it's pretty good, but it's not really what you look for in a saison.

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Photo of charlzm
3.65/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Consumed on January 3rd, 2013 from a Klokke Roeland goblet.

Beer pours a clear dark brown with deep garnet highlights. Head is less than a finger tall and dissipated quickly.

Aromas: bubblegum and a little banana all but mask a touch of funk.

Flavor is smooth and surprisingly bitter at the end. Slightly metallic, a touch of smoke, some dark malts that are more charred than roasted. Not much of the promised smoke flavor to be found. Almost no funk or farm character, either. Maybe a touch of sour cherry or somethign in the midtaste.

Mouthfeel is a little silky, smooth and thick. Slightly dry on the finish.

The oddest beer I've ever had with the "saison" label applied to it. This is to saison what Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is to IPA. A decent enough beer to drink, but would be a big fail if rating to style guidelines of saison.

Ratings reflect the beer only relative to the general world of beer, as it can't be properly evaluated as the purported style.

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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of ryan1788a5
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12oz bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a deep black color with a creamy beige head. The head initially stands at an inch an a half in height, but settles shortly into a half inch cap. Lacing is thin and web-like.

S: Spicy and perfumey Belgian yeast. Cinnamon, pepper, subtle hints of clove. Bread crust, black cocoa powder, charcoal and soot. Very slight whiff of smoked malts.

T: Soot and charcoal malt tastes are cut by a strong hit of clove. Pepper and spicy Belgian yeast tastes are quickly followed by a touch of acrid smoked malts. Light fruitiness. Slight oily hop presence in the background. Finishes with clove, smoke, and fleeting oily hops.

M: On the lighter side of medium bodied. Airy, fluffy, and creamy in the mouth. Moderate carbonation.

O: The combination of flavors at play just don't work. Smoked malts and Belgian yeast don't really seem to jive. The phenol tastes are sharp and pronounced too, and it starts to wear on the palate.

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Photo of babaracas
3.55/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a mostly clear dark brown with one finger of offwhite colored head settling to a thin ring, with a few splotches of lace left on the glass. Smell: roasty and slightly burnt upfront, dark brown sugar, notes of chocolate, grass, hazelnut. Taste: sweet throughout, with mild acidity and grainy twang hitting midsip. Mild roast, spicy and grassy hopping, nut-related tannins, a suggestion of funk that doesn't deliver. Finishes drying with some residual sweetness. Black saison, this one does not evoke a particularly good saison, but it's not a bad beer, just a bit scattershot... higher marks if it was labeled as a rando Belgo-hybrid.

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Photo of larryi86
4.2/5  rDev +20%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip

A- Black with a three finger ran head.

S- Mainly light fruits from the yeast, some citrus/tropical fruits from the hops, some pepper, hint of roasted malts and smoke. Very Saison like.

T- Some smoke, hoppy, and a lot of yeast. Citrus and tropical fruits from the hops, works very well with the fruitiness from the yeast, finish has some pepper mixed with some smokiness. Great complexity and I feel that this great balance too.

M- Smooth, medium body.

O- I think that this lives up to the name and what they were going for. I like all three brewers a lot and I think that this is a great example of all three brewers working together. I feel that I am in the minority with really liking this beer but it is very tasty and complexity. I didn't chill this at all and drank it at room temp so maybe that helped, can't wait to get more!

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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

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4/5  rDev +14.3%

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3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a pint glass
A: Dark brown with a 1-finger light-tan head that quickly settles to 1/2-finger
S: Grass, a little tropical fruit & hints of coffee, malt & sour
T: Mild, with flavors of roasted malt, chalk, a bit of citrus & earth
M: Medium-bodied with a pleasant carbonation
O: Unique, worth trying, made me contemplate it a bit, but not a beer I would actively seek out again

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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

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3.5/5  rDev 0%

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3.5/5  rDev 0%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

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4/5  rDev +14.3%

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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing
Beer rating: 39.6% out of 100 with 647 ratings
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