Welcome to BeerAdvocate!

Looking to talk, rate or trade beer? Join today by creating your free account.

Dismiss Notice
Curious about recent updates to the site and app? Check the Announcements forum for updates.
Dismiss Notice
Love Belgian Beer?

Join us Sep 17 in Portland, Maine for Return of the Belgian Beer Fest, featuring hundreds of authentic Belgian beers and Belgian-inspired offerings.

Tickets + more: beeradvocate.com/belgian

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" | Stone Brewing

YOUR RATING = None |
BA SCORE
79
okay
187 Reviews
THE BROS
73
okay
Read the review
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States | website

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.80%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Reviews:
187
Ratings:
645
Avg:
3.48
pDev:
26.44%
 
 
Wants:
10
Gots:
47
For Trade:
5
User Reviews
Sort by:  Recent | High | Low | Top Raters | Alström Bros
Reviews: 187 | Ratings: 645
Photo of BierJager89
4.39/5  rDev +26.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Black with a mocha head.

S: Fruity/citric hop character dominates the nose with just a touch of smoke.

T: Fruity, orangey hops, but not bitter or harsh, with smoke in the finish that lingers in the mouth, commingling with the prior citric fruitiness.

M: Medium bodied and smoothish. Smooth for a saison.

O: Definitely worth a try if you can find it. I love the experimentation stillwater has done with their saisons. This collaboration is not unlike some of their other beers.

 491 characters

Photo of GarthDanielson
3.64/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, brown-to-black coloring with a frothy, bubbly, dense, low profile, light tan head. Aromas of tangy sweet, roasted notes, bitter coffee and hops characteristics, tart fruit notes, and subtle spicing. Flavors are tangy throughout, with cherry and berry sweetness. Some very subtle peat and smoke notes, with a hint of tangy hops building towards the tail end. Definitely leaning heavy on the sweet side, with the roast keeping it slightly in check. Light, crisp bodied, with a tangy sweet, fruity aftertaste. Effervescent, crisp finish. This beer is pretty interesting; unlike any I've had before.

 661 characters

Photo of Treyliff
2.96/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A- pours black, but not quite opaque, khaki foamy and sudsy head that reduces to a small bubbly layer, leaving a little bit of lace

S- strange bouquet of aromas, starting with some toasted grainy malt with a little bit of toffee/caramel, dried dark fruit, blackberries, just a hint of smoke. Not really picking up any saison aromas, but there us an off puting metallic/sour aroma at the end

T- sweet caramel malt flavors are meshed with some astringent dark fruit/berry flavors, their are some faint yeasty saison flavors, but for the most part are masked by a sweet and fruity malt flavor. The smoke aspect is barely detectable any there's some metallic flavors on the finish

M- medium body with low carbonation, slightly foamy mouthfeel with a crisp finish

O- not really sure what they were going for here. This tastes nothing like a saison, the 'smoked' flavors are barely noticeable, and overall it's all over the place

 930 characters

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
2.88/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - dark, no light getting through. Nice finger of light mocha head, lacy and sticky.

Aroma - mostly the dark malts, a whiff of something earthy/saison/funk-like but nothing clear.

Taste - so I'm looking mostly for balance among the black malts and/or smoke, and the saison. The malts are certainly charred, nearly ashen, but not particularly smoky. Mid-palate contains the first note of the saison. I think it's basically the yeast I'm picking up - a little tart and funky but any delicate flavors are lost in the heavy roast. I guess it does what it was intended to do, but it reminds me of a stout that has starting to turn with infection. Ends with the saison dryness and black char.

Mouthfeel - crisp, smooth, good firm body to amply support all the flavor going on.

Overall - not that enjoyable for me, but I can drink and appreciate the good balance to this one.

 882 characters

Photo of BMMillsy
3.3/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a small head for the style. Smell is smoke, yeast funk, black currant, bit of spice, and some candy sweet smell. Medium mouthfeel and flat for a saison. Fruity flavor, spice, not a lot of smoke. A little funky with some oaky taste and a strange musty bitterness. Finishes dry. Pretty unique, but not blown away by this. Not a bad beer, but not one I would order again.

 385 characters

Photo of Chaney
2.93/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Stone IRS glass.

A: Poured a dark, burnt brown, with only a few bubbles posing as a head.

S: Smelled like rotten, fermented fruit actually. Quite a bit of booze in there as well.

T: Still, those rotten esters really lingered which wasn't pleasant. I actually kinda dug the smokiness of this though.

M: Very low in carbonation and lacing overall. Okay here.

O: Never would have tagged this as a saison... more like Belgian Strong or something. Either way, it wasn't good.

 487 characters

Photo of srhoadsy
3.14/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Served chilled into a fluted tulip.

Pours a nice sable brown with quarter inch tan, airy head that quickly recedes leaving moderate surface layer and lacing.

Aromas of that musty peppery funk common to the style with a hint of smoke.

Flavors, this is where it falls apart! The flavors follow through from the aromas but they compete with each other to much and nothing really shines through.

Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a slightly sweet but crisp finish. Fair amount of carbonation and mild aftertaste.

Looks good, smells good, taste is a disappointment. A subpar offering from two otherwise excellent breweries.

 630 characters

Photo of TruePerception
2.57/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

(Previous review, transferred from beer journal)

Collaboration

Stone / Evil Twin / Still Water "The Perfect Crime": black smoked saison, 6.8% ABV, Appearance: very deep dark red in the light; Smell: dark lager, licorice/coffee, light hop, BBQ charcoal; Taste/Mouthfeel: graphite, metallic/mineral, very bitter, coffee at the end, graphite taste sticks to tongue; okay

 369 characters

Photo of Sludgeman
3.1/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

$4.99/12oz. Poured into a chalice. Bottle on 10/16/12.

Even if smokey beers are a turn-off for you (as they can be for me) don’t let this beer’s description drive you away. The smokiness is faint in all areas. Somewhat reminiscent of the Stone/Victory/DFH Saison Buff collaboration in both aroma and taste. Not a true saison though, so to what style do you grade, a Belgian Specialty?

A – Pours a black opaque with a half-finger of light brown/tan head, which quickly dissipates. Average lacing. Head easily recovered with a good swirl.

S – Standard farmyard yeasty aroma but with more of a wheat and even an adjunct component. Some faint peppery spiciness.

T – Smoke is faint, slight creaminess, bitter in the end with a bit of lemon in the finish.

MF – Can I say smokiness in the mouth feel as well, acrid, dry finish. Well carbonated.

 854 characters

Photo of beertunes
2.46/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2

A "Black, Smoked Saison"? Uh, OK. Poured into straight pint glass. Poured a solid black color with almost an inch of medium brown head that had decent retention and light lacing.

The aroma blasted out as soon as the bottle was cracked open. A lot of smoke, some yeast and some roast were the dominant aspects. On the tongue all those things combined and clashed all across the palate. The things that Saisons so great are totally covered up by roast and an alcohol sharpness.

The body was thick and sticky, not Saison like at all. Drinkability was a bit rough, with the roast and alcohol being a less than pleasant combination. Overall, a perfect example of why you shouldn't do something just because you can. This beer is kind of a mess. I can't recommend it.

 763 characters

Photo of socon67
3.36/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Brown pour with a thin foam head. Some carbonation is noted.

S - Slight burnt toast smell of roasted malt. There is a little bit of dried fruit smell that gives a sugary smell. Overall my take was that it smelled like a hickory BBQ sauce.

T - Really not sure here. I didn't get anything remotely resembling saison qualities. There was more of a malt presence and dry hop finish than what I expected. Some fig or raisin flavors were noted.

M - Feels relatively light and is easy to dink. Actually leaves a bit of a yeasty funk in the finish. Really a complex and quite odd beer.

O - A bit all over the place and I really don't know what the right classification for this would be. Many of the Stone collabs are out of the box concepts, but in this case I don't think I'd be looking to try this again.

 808 characters

Photo of taylor714914
3.4/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a Samuel Smith glass. Thin, dissipating head with minimal lacing. Brownish black in color, almost like a porter.

Not much going on in the smell, some sweet dark fruits, citrus hops. There is a bit of oak, though I don't know if this beer is wood aged.

Taste is decent, but first perception is this doesn't dry out and finish dry enough. Caramel malts are the initial taste with some citrus hops and a bit of resinous bitterness.

Mouthfeel is too thick and sugary. Beer definitely needed more attenuation.

Overall, I think this missed the mark for the Saison style.

 607 characters

Photo of mfnmbvp
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle, 2012 vintage. Not exactly sure of the bottled on date, but my local beer store has been holding down a bunch of these for a while, so I thought it was time to try it out. Got a single bottle for $3.99. My third review of a collaboration beer on BeerAdvocate.

Poured into a Firestone Walker pint glass.

A - Pours a near opaque mahogany brown color that shows ruby hues when held under the light. One finger of thin khaki colored head fades quickly to some froth. Some thin cavernous looking lacing.

S - Smell is light and subdued: some faint bubblegum Belgian malt & yeast smell, some earthiness, light smoke & wood smells buried in there also. The smoke & the malts blend nicely together. The malty smells become more prominent as it warms.

T - Taste is intriguing, yet subdued like the smell. Bubblegum malts, some dark roasty notes, coffee beans, faint smoke & wood characteristics, Belgian yeast, but none of these really push themselves to the foreground, they are all equally in balance with one another. Aftertaste is crisp and of light fruit sugars. Green apple comes to mind.

M - Feel is crisp, with nice carbonation, and some nice fruity apple skin sweetness lingering in the finish. Finishes very dry. Medium-full bodied.

Overall, it was about what I expected, if not a little disappointing. A drinkable beer, but not something I would try again. It has probably matured & tamed a bit since it was fresh, but I am still glad to have tried a bottle. An interesting beer, but I was somehow expecting more from this. I've never had anything from Stillwater before, so I will be on the lookout for more from them. An average beer, but worth trying once.

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone "The Perfect Crime" ---3.5/5

 1,742 characters

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.94/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a very deep brown, bordering on black, color with a two finger cream colored head. The head is rather fluffy with it fading relatively quickly and it leaving behind a decent level of lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is a rather interesting blend of smells. There is a rather stronger aroma of char, roasted malt, and some smoke with notes of a yeasty and bready smell as well. Mixed with these aromas are some others of citrus and some spice as well as lots of funk composed of some hay and grassy smells mixed within.

Taste – The taste begins with a roasted malt flavor with hints of darker fruits mixed within. There is a sourness upfront that is accompanied by a lighter yeasty and grassy flavor. The sourness increases with a funkiness developing as the taste moves on more toward the end. A bit of a citrus hop as well as some flavors of pine, smoke and char all come to the tongue at the end, leaving a rather sour and tart toasted flavor on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is rather light in its creaminess and thickness with a carbonation level that is on the higher side and consists of lots of little carbonation bubbles. These lighter characteristics are great for all the yeast and citrus saison flavors of the brew, but not the best for the wood, roast and smoke flavors in my opinion. It think this is one thought that is hard to compromise between the differing flavors.

Overall – This was an interesting and actually quite enjoyable brew. The mix of darker roasted and char flavors with that of yeast, sourness and funk combined to produce a rather tasty combination. This is certainly one to try if you can find it.

 1,742 characters

Photo of FLima
4.23/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone.
Black color, ruby when put through the light, with a thin head with short retention.
Light aroma of roasted and smoked malts, with notes of caramels and some sourness.
Very interesting flavor of sweet smoked malts with a refreshing pine note, heavy on condiments and some nice funkyness from Breta lyke small devils, giving a special character to it. Dry, bitter and burnt long lasting aftertaste.
Medium body with perfect carbonation and a spicy feeling.
That was a very original and interesting beer, mixing several different styles that ramdomly comes out and disappears. Highly recommendable.

 651 characters

Photo of schwemjw
3.52/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

a: a dark brown, bordering on black. a white swirling head that thinned to a lacing

s: interesting. alot of sweet yeast with funky dark fruit. a touch of rusted malt with a little smoke on the end

t: a touch of roast. some big dark fruit such as fug and raisen. I get some burnt toast with fig jam. smoke on the end with a nice hop bittering.

m: Mouthfeel Is awesome. smooth and easy drinking with low carbonation.

o: this is a very sessionable saison. I could drink a ton of this /84

 488 characters

Photo of KFBR392
3.62/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark brown color, sit pitch black in the glass. About two fingers of head which subsided to about half a finger. Very active carbonation with some creamy lacing left on the glass.

Smell: Bready yeast and peanuts jumps out the most. But there are some floral hops, apricots, and spices which really make for a unique aroma. Darker malts and black licorice also can be found. Each time I put my nose to this brew I was finding different aspects that jumped out to me. Nothing is at an elite level, but it is well done how everything going on here meshes together.

Taste: A slight charred malt and oak front hits the palette first. The body evens out with a light to medium bodied yeast kiss. A lot of banana, nut, and leafy greens here. The finish is like the beginning with a chalky smoked malt flavor. The aftertaste is very light, the malt character sticks around. Not as complex as the aroma but still a nice ride.

Mouthfeel: Very light, especially for what the majority of the flavors are here.

Overall: A fun beer to drink. I wouldn't be sure exactly what to call it, but thats part of the fun here. I like going for something bold on a collaboration beer and they did the job. I love the story on the back of the bottle which we all know is synonymous with Stone products, this one written by the Evil Twin brewmaster.

 1,350 characters

Photo of CHickman
3.78/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours motor oil black color with a massive foamy 2 finger tan head that faded slowly, with tons of different sized bubbles in it that were popping as it went down, leaving good foamy lacing coating the sides.

Smells like roasted grains, chalkdust, chicory, licorice, brown sugar, smoked/burnt wood and herbs; it almost smells like burning dry hops and grains, and it a very timid nose that does not jump out of the tulip.

Tastes like roasted grains, toasted malts, chicory, smoked/burnt wood, licorice, brown sugar, cocoa powder, floral hops, flowers and herbs; has the same taste as some burnt bread pulled off a wood burning fire or coal oven, but then the roasted grains give way to a sweetness which is a combo of funky yeast and cocoa powder – it’s really strange, but very interesting. It was very complex and grew on me with each sip.

Mouthfeel is powdery dry, with a light body, high, fizzy carbonation and a slightly bitter aftertaste that seems like yeast and coffee grinds combined with cocoa powder.

This seems out of place for a Saison/Farmhouse ale, but the label states it’s a black smoked saison, so they pulled off the perfect crime by creating a unique brew that is as advertised a black smoked saison. Extra points for making a one of a kind beer in collaboration with other brewers, but this one is only above average. If you’re a fan of smoked porters or smoke beers then this will be right up your alley.

 1,442 characters

Photo of beagle75
2.36/5  rDev -32.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a half-pint chalice

A: Clear, dark brown color with less than one finger of diminishing light beige foam head. No lacing remains on the glass.

S: Mostly base malt and carbon dioxide, with minor influences from wood smoke and green almonds.

T: Begins dry, with roasted grain and mild yeast phenolics. West Coast hops flavors emerge during the middle, green herbs and mixed citrus, concurrent with rising bitterness. The finish sees a combination of tangy yeast metabolites and scorched bitterness that is intense for the style.

M: Medium viscosity, slightly acidic on the palate, with brisk carbonation.

D/O: This beer combines a host of qualities that prove to be discordant together. Hops and dark malt clash with Belgian yeast, while smoke seems to get lost in the cavalcade.

 815 characters

Photo of sweemzander
2.86/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a pitch black color. Produced some tan froth.

(S)- A light smoky roasted raisin aroma meets some mellow cocoa and baked bread-like yeastiness.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. Overall, an up front combo of a salty smoke brine meets roasted malts and some raisin/cocoa.

(M)- A good carbonation level. The balance is good too, just a slightly too heavy smoke component that gets in the way of the rest of the beer.

(O)- An interesting take on the style. I just do not think it is completely successful. Some good things in there, but the smoke could definitely be toned down a bit while still being present instead of overpowering.

 678 characters

Photo of Braz
3.23/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From 99 Bottles.
Appearance: Dark brown to black. Decent off white head.
Smell: Bitter slight smoky notes. Burnt woodsy smell.
Taste: Seems like a decent saison underneath the bitter smokiness. The two dont go together to me. The idea is interesting at least.
Mouthfeel: Not bad, full bodied. Moderately carbonated.
Overall: Just not for me. I love saisons and was intrigued by the idea but it just doesn't work to me.

 419 characters

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.59/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled on 10/26/12, a trifecta of great brewers came together with one being pretty much the master of the American Saison right now...all three have the collaborative fortitude to do a black beer together considering they all make some of the best dark beers available in craft brewing today. This one pours with a black body jet black with a light fine bubbled creamy tan head, leaves fine lacing down the sides of my tulip shaped chalice. Dry hopping comes thru in terms of earthy pine and mild citrus peels with a dark roasted malts surrounding the hop accents, spicy Belgian yeast gives why to alcoholic phenols and black peppercorns. A pleasant caramel drizzled toast brings out a nuttiness in there as well, all in all chalk full of malt and hops. Flavors collide with the bittering hops here, dark roasted malt bitterness potentiates the pine earthy resinous hops riding the waves of carbonation in my first few sips...as the palate adjusts it's still satisfies with a slightly warming effect of the booze. The dry hopping probably makes and breaks this beer, the strong lingering bitterness really Americanizes this black saison into the hybrid known as the "Perfect Crime" The mouthfeel also welcomes the light smoked meat aspect in the back of the nares, not really dominant against the big hops and dark malts utilized but well played nonetheless. Dry hints of cherry tartness and other vine ripened fruit additions start to explode as the beer warms a bit, complex ale in 12 ounces, I'm guessing this beer keeps getting better considering it's 4/25/13.

 1,566 characters

Photo of BlurryVisi0n
2.99/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tulip glass.

Appearance: Body is thin you can tell from the pour coming off a solid black with an orange tint to the body. Rising high is the head maybe just a notch above a finger's length.

Smell: A citrus skin no doubt about it. Freaking light as the air you breathe, comes in and out just as quick.

Taste: iwill tell you this, it is sour, not crazy over whelming sour but you feel the lemon zest to this brew. Light bitterness to it and also cant forget to mention just a little peppery.

Mouth: Like I mentioned above a light peppery finish with a medium body, not too bad.

Overall: i give it this, that this brew comes off complex but other than it needs to taste and feel good to be a member of the elite. Sure there are guys that like "something different" but this beer needs beyond tweaking and should be either left in the store or just laid to rest. Salud!

 887 characters

Photo of StaveHooks
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

12oz bottle served in a Southern Tier Tulip

A - Pours a very dark brown with red highlights when held to the light. 1.5 finger mocha head clings to the sides of the glass. The foam stays around slowly forming a clear center with a tall collar. Below average lacing.

S - Roasted grain, charred wet hay, woody mushroom background, cold coffee grains. The barley runs strong throughout the aroma with notes of old burnt leather and hints of funky yeast. Notes of perfumy lavender show up as it warms.

T - Roasted grains, sharp berry fruit tartness, charcoal wood, hints of acidity, A strong burnt note with the berry tartness clinging the edges of the tongue. It turns smokey toward the middle with leafy green hops showing up. Floral hops ride on top of the strong roast, while finishing earthy with a smokey but crisp finish.

M - Ample carbonation makes a medium creamy body. Hop oils are left on the palate along with roasted grain and a dry finish.

This is not a subtle dark Saison. The roast dominates and creates a smoky background against the berry fruit. The hops are not shy and blend well with hints of wood and campfire funk. The funk is light but adds character overall. I enjoyed exploring this beer. It's heavy on the smoke and roast with the yeast adding delicate flavor. Thanks Hopswagger!

 1,307 characters

Photo of Suds
3.85/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A black beer with slightly reddish tones when held to light. Tan head. Subtle smokey aroma...slightly fruity and spicy in its smell. The taste is tart, and the smoke really comes it. The beer takes on a little toasted spice flavor (think peppercorns in an oven). Very mild, though....and the tartness gives a beautiful balance. Medium body and moderately high carbonation. Very good.

 383 characters

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing
79 out of 100 based on 187 ratings.
  • About Us

    Your go-to website for beer (since 1996), publishers of BeerAdvocate magazine (since 2006) and hosts of world-class beer events (since 2003). Respect Beer.
  • Return of the Belgian Beer Fest

    BeerAdvocate Brings its All-Belgian Fest to Portland, Maine on September 17, 2016. Tickets are on sale now.

    Learn More
  • Get the Mag

    Become a BeerAdvocate magazine print subscriber today.

    Subscribe