Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" | Stone Brewing

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.80%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
647
Reviews:
188
Avg:
3.48
pDev:
14.08%
 
 
Wants:
10
Gots:
48
For Trade:
5
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3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

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4/5  rDev +14.9%

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3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

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4/5  rDev +14.9%

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3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

Photo of clayrock81
3.23/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I am not one to crap on Stone's collabos, but this one was subpar. Not a bad beer, but as I review my notes I find a beer that looked black w/ lace rings and mostly a malty aroma w/ very lil in the hop or yeast department. Taste is more of the same as the beer's malts of weet and dryness overpower the noticeable hops and the not at all noticeable saison qualities. I wouldn't call this a black saison at al but more like a porter or stou w/ some belgian characteristics. Not bad, but not worth trying if you haven't already.

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4.25/5  rDev +22.1%

Photo of ElSid
3.74/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

The Beers of California

#48

Bottled Date: 2012

A: Black and opaque with a thin khaki film of head.

S: Mostly burnt barnyard funk with an acidic edge, dark grain, chocolate and earthy bitterness.

T: The funky bite is there built on a dark grain, bread and brown sugar malt foundation. The malt is predominately grainy with a dash of liquid smoke adding a char edge. There is also some banana yeast esters, bittersweet dark chocolate presence, along with an earthy, leafy hop bitterness which also has tinges of citrus peel. The finish is mildly dry with a spicy, acidic bite.

M: The feel is medium to full with a graIny chewiness and a good amount of carbonation adding another layer of interest to the experience.

O: A truly unique brew which is the product of a collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone. Very interesting with layers and layers of complexity which mostly works. With all things new, this brew is difficult to review but the originality found here ultimately succeeds.

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3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

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4/5  rDev +14.9%

Photo of pkalix
4.02/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

very dark, cant see through it; nice creamy tan head on top which diminsihes to nothing in the time it takes to urinate.
smells... like hops foremost, but a little something malty too....
dang, anything stone is hops, aint it? even a stinking saisson... tastes like al the rest. why does everyone think their beer is so good?
okay, so overall, it's supposed to be a creation among breweries to be a saisson but it tastes like a mellowed ipa. just my opinion. i get the smoked malts, but it just seems that we have to have an overpowering amount of hop to be called stone. am i wrong? my experience of a saisson is a taste of fields. grass, maybe, but not pine. malts, to be certain, but not roasted to the point of being the only way you can taste them...
but it looks nice in the glass . . . .

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Photo of TexIndy
3.76/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass. No dating info but it's new release so it's fresh. It poured black with ruby edges. It had a good sized head that settled into a thick collar and covering film. Great lacing with lots sticking.

The aroma was interesting. The saison elements were pretty hidden with the dark malts and smoke leading the way. Can't pinpoint it exactly but something about it just didn't hit me right. Not bad but not good either. The taste was again more dark malts and smoke than saison which isn't a knock since it's a smoked saison. But I really couldn't find any saison elements in it so if you'd told me smoked {insert style here} then I wouldn't have argued with you. Medium mouthfeel with good carbonation and smoky aftertaste.

Overall, an interesting sounding beer and while I love smoked beers and saisons this one just misses the mark for me. Avail here in TX. Rotation: glad I tried it but one is enough.

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Photo of sevenarts
3.85/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours dark black with a moderate sized tan head and some lacing.

S: Grass, lots of citrus, especially lemon. Very pungent and funky.

T/M: Really wild and hard to pin down. Very hoppy, with big floral and citrus flavors along with a strong piney, grassy element. Somewhat bitter up front, with some funky, yeasty notes, and then a sweeter finish. The malt base is subtle but present, and provides some stout-like hints of caramel and chocolate.

O: A very odd beer, but it's certainly meant to be odd. Big hops,funky saison yeast, and stout notes are combined and never quite blend together. It's very unique and interesting, and works about as well as this crazy idea ever could.

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3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

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4.08/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured near-black with a finger of light tan head. Weak aroma of roasty cocoa with a hint of smoke.

Moderate carbonation and a full, creamy mouthfeel. Dark, roasty chocolate up front followed by some fruity esters, a touch of mesquite, and a coffee-like bitterness on the tail end.

Strong flavors that don't quite meld, but that's half the fun. Pretty nice!

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Photo of EgadBananas
4.01/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours is a nearly black color, with a dark tan head. Had decent retention, and left a nice trail of foamy lacing down the side.

The aroma comprised of pepper, some herbal notes, yeast eaters, grass, and mild backing smoky char note. The smoke was subtle, not over done and lender a nice uniqueness to the aroma.

The more I sipped it the more I enjoyed it. It started a bit more smoky and meaty than the aroma entailed. Then moved to a white pepper and spice note, quaffs of yeast esters, with a smoky, somewhat bitter and herbal finishing note.

The feel was good, was light in body, but was a litter undercarbonated and didn't have that crispness that I enjoy with a good refreshing Saison. Still, it was nice overall.

I love smoked beers and Saison, so I had to try this...and I like it. It's a well executed mashing of of the two, not over done, but kept within the Saison realm. I can however see how this could rub some the wrong way so, if you're open enough to it, keep an open mind.

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Photo of stephenjmoore
3.87/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Black body with no signs of brown, or light coming through. Sticky and foamy tan head that hangs around for awhile.

S- Spicy yeast aroma, dark roasted malts, smoked malt.

T- Almost tastes like a combination between a smoked porter and a dark saison. Smoke and dark roasted flavors come through a lot at the beginning, with the middle and finish offering spicy yeast flavors typical of a traditional saison. The combination works pretty well together.

M- High carbonation level with a smoother mouthfeel probably due to the darker malts. Overall pretty drinkable.

O- Definitely pushes the boundaries of a saison, but works pretty well. Worth a try.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.3/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a jet black opaque body with a thin light tan film of head that is supported by bubbles that race out of the abyss and stick to the bottom of the head.

S- The roasted black malt is very mellow with a cold smoke note in the finish. There is a nice saison yeast ester aroma that turns a bit to new sneaker aroma as it opens, but the aroma always stays light.

T- The nice saison yeast character takes on some dry bubble gum qualities followed by a smooth black malt mellow finish. There is a club soda and cold smoke note to the after taste. As the beer opens some lemon tartness grows quite a bit in the finish. It could be hops but not really distinct, but very pleasant.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat

O- This has all the potential for a train wreck but I would say it truly is the perfect storm. All the flavors come through but they are in just the right balance that it doesn’t get ugly. Each sip made me want another sip just out of pure wonderment. The beer is light and bright even though it has some black malt and smoke flavors. Is this the holotype of a Black Saison?

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3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

Photo of champ103
3.14/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

On tap at Cottonwood in Houston, TX

A: Pours a dark black color with some ruby around the edges. A two finger beige head forms, and gently recedes. Light lace is left behind.
S: Very neutral in the nose. Some toasted malts, dry bitter chocolate. Really not much else.
T: Well, like the nose there is not much here. Nothing really to make out other than some toasted malt, cereal grains, burnt toast, and bitter chocolate in the finish.
M/D: A medium body and carbonation. Fairly crisp, dry, and smooth. Not hard t drink. Though not something I particularly enjoy. I can't see myself coming back to this.

Just blah. I have never been a huge fan of Stone. Though their beers are always packed with something, whether or not I like that is another story. An uncharacteristically...uncharacteristic offering. And what the hell is a "Black Saison" anyway.

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3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

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3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

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3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.2/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A collaborative effort from all the good folks at Stone/Stillwater/Evil Twin
After reviewing I realized this was my 1800th review, cheers!

LOOK: Pours a deep brown with a light off white foam that leaves good lace. Has good staying power, and was served in a chalice.

SMELL: Bread, toast, chocolate, grass and slightly funky Belgian yeast.

TASTE: Moderately tart in a Belgian fashion upfront giving way to notes of dry cocoa, coffee, herbs and hops. Mild peppery spiciness paired with a presence of molasses. Dry hopped flavor comes through well.

FEEL: Really nice, smooth and the carbonation is strong and slightly drying, right where it needs to be. Almost creamy, and spicy.

OVERALL: To hell with judging this beer to any one style, it's a conundrum. A very good one at that. But, for being a smoked Saison, the smoke is not very strong. It had more of a pleasant roasted malt flavor.

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3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing
3.48 out of 5 based on 647 ratings.
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