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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" | Stone Brewing

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States | website

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.80%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Reviews:
187
Ratings:
645
Avg:
3.48
pDev:
26.44%
 
 
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For Trade:
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Photo of ColForbinBC
3.53/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip

A dark mahogany body with a fluffy khaki cap. The cap rose to fill the tulip, and fell to form a thin layer of foam over the top of the liquid. Some clingy lace revealing sip marks.

The nose is of dark fruits, cocoa powder, and a touch of smoke. The smoke comes out more as this guy approaches room temp. Plums and cherries are the driving force in the nose. Extremely clean. Too clean for a saison.

Some smoke up front with cherries, vanilla, plums, and cocoa powder through the middle. The finish is a quick burst of smoked malt with a metallic finish. A touch of cherry vanilla mixes in with the lingering smoke/metallic flavor. The metallic flavor fades and some piney hop bitterness takes over.

Smooth, easy medium body. A touch of spicy alcohol pops in the finish.

This is a super clean saison, even with the smoked malt. I'd the flavors to be a little more robust and, for lack of a better word, dirtier. The metallic aftertaste is a little unwelcoming at first, but it fades and some bitter, piney hops take over.

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Photo of VelvetExtract
3.53/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours very black. Minimal light penetration. Head slowly loses gas and pops away to a thin tan seam of tight bubbles. There is consistent, thin lacing specks all along the glass.

S-It does smell like a Saison in its barest essence. The addition of dark, roasty malt and charred smoke is both bad and good. The yeast does come out in the nose but it has to fight away the other aspects of the beer. Yeast and spice followed by subtler notes of roast and chocolate. Smoke is not overbearing.

T-The flavor is a bit lighter and more vibrant than the nose. The smoke settles nicely above the yeast and spice. It finishes with modest amounts of bitter dark chocolate and coffee. They all seem to conflict at some points. But during some sips, it seems to mesh. Definitely some anise and clove.

M-Bubbly. A bit slick. Bitter. Light hint of booze. Decent drinkability.

O/D-A bit better than I thought it would be. It just doesn't sound like it was the best idea. But hey, they got my $4 so kudos to them. I recently had the Mint Chocolate Imperial Stout and that was infinitely better. This was...adequate.

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Photo of sinstaineddemon
3.53/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - this is a balck smoked saison, and so far it holds true, it is black. A thin transparent blackm, as opposed to a thick viscous stout black, pours with a medium tan head and plenty of carbonation sticking to the glass

S - the aroma is surprisingly lacking, some smoked peat, earthy notes, no distinct hop profile, no spicy saison tones, just smoke and malts

T - my how things change in the taste of this beer, one of the biggest discrepancies between nose and palate that I can remember in a beer. Big spicy funky saison notes float above a great malt/hop balanced profile. Each individual element is distinguishable and of high quality.

M&D&O - among the best layered beers I have tried, a fantastic job of creating such differing and tasty elements at every level. a tasty brew!

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Photo of babaracas
3.55/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a mostly clear dark brown with one finger of offwhite colored head settling to a thin ring, with a few splotches of lace left on the glass. Smell: roasty and slightly burnt upfront, dark brown sugar, notes of chocolate, grass, hazelnut. Taste: sweet throughout, with mild acidity and grainy twang hitting midsip. Mild roast, spicy and grassy hopping, nut-related tannins, a suggestion of funk that doesn't deliver. Finishes drying with some residual sweetness. Black saison, this one does not evoke a particularly good saison, but it's not a bad beer, just a bit scattershot... higher marks if it was labeled as a rando Belgo-hybrid.

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Photo of nova009
3.57/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into a tulip

A- pours an extremely dark brown, bordering on black, a small one finger off white head appears and quickly dissipates down to pretty much nothing, spotty lace

S- spicy and floral although you really have to get your nose into the glass to get it, a little peppery, slightly bready malt, also a little roasty as well, really not a lot going on with the nose to be honest

T- bizzare, you get a tiny bit of the floral aspects of a saison real early but it goes away almost immediately, roasted malt and an aggressive hop back really take over, it almost takes on a porter taste, not sure how I feel about this

M- medium body, nice balance of carbonation, flavor gets all over the palate, nothing to complain about here

O- I wouldn't call this a bad beer, but I feel like the taste didn't take on enough saison characteristics, maybe if they backed off the roastiness it would have worked a little better, I've had better collabs from stone

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Photo of WankelEngine
3.57/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass

A: Pours almost completely black with hints of brown, entirely opaque. There is a nice foamy, tan colored head of about one finger which dissipates to a very thin, oily cap over the course of a minute or two. Mild layers of lace.

S: The first thing I pick up on the nose is some bitter, roasted flavor. This roasted aroma is fairly sharp as it is backed up by the estery profile of Belgian yeast. Other Belgian flavors, bubblegum and apple, provide a counterpoint to the otherwise bitingly bitter aroma.

T: Roasted malt is still predominant, but fairly balanced between that and the Belgian profile. Bittersweet chocolate and a good deal of smoke. The saison side of things provides a little bit of funk and very light bubblegum. The finish is very bitter, all the bitterness of the roasted malt and saison rolled into a lingering aftertaste.

M: Medium bodied with low but effervescent carbonation.

O: An interesting combination of styles, but not the best execution. The aroma is good, but the flavor is too bitter. I like bitterness, but the finish is all roasted and alcohol.

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Photo of Billolick
3.58/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle, purchased at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY

Pours near black, light mocha head stays and leaves some low sheeting and decent looking fine lacing.

Nose is full of dark malts, lite smoke, and some minty spice.

More dark malt, more smoke and I get some subtle pepper, mint, and then hoppy dryness to finish things out. Unusual, off beat, a style bender. Decent fall/winter type of brew. Not my favorite, but worth a try.

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Photo of joecast
3.58/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Well this should be interesting.

Nearly black but looks thin during the pour. No mistaking this for a stout. Head is tanned and thin, hard to pick carbonation level but looks low.

Definite Belgian/farmhouse influence in the aroma but it has something more. Smoke is very light and hard to pick. Easier to notice a slight roast component which is a different twist.

That roast/dark malt changes the taste completely compared to a standard saison. The whole nature of the beer is changed to a much smoother richer beer. Basically it goes from a summer to a winter beer. As such it takes a hit score wise but its far from a bad beer. The basic spicy yeast character is there but the addition of dark specialty malt takes away some of the light refreshing quality.

The mouthfeel has be knocked back as a saison, but overall this is quite nice and released at just the right time of year.

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Photo of Halcyondays
3.58/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle,

A: Pours an ultra deep red to black, opaque, with a medium slightly off-white head. Very solid head retention, some sticky lace.

S: Smoke, dark malt, with a hint of soy sauce.

T: Dark chocolate and plum upfront, but then really gets into the saison aspect. While there's an undercurrent of smoke throughout, the back end of this beer is all saison. Tons of peppery spice, leather, almost a note of bee pollen. It's lacking that delicious factor, but it is quite an interesting, complex beer.

M: Drying finish, medium-bodied overall. Chalky, peppery long aftertaste with some finishing hops.

O: A strange beer to say the least, really a combo of an ABA and a saison with a splash of rauchbier thrown in there. Only $2.99 a bottle, so this is a fun beer to expand your palate, but really at the end of the day, it's nothing mind-blowing, enjoyable though.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
3.59/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled on 10/26/12, a trifecta of great brewers came together with one being pretty much the master of the American Saison right now...all three have the collaborative fortitude to do a black beer together considering they all make some of the best dark beers available in craft brewing today. This one pours with a black body jet black with a light fine bubbled creamy tan head, leaves fine lacing down the sides of my tulip shaped chalice. Dry hopping comes thru in terms of earthy pine and mild citrus peels with a dark roasted malts surrounding the hop accents, spicy Belgian yeast gives why to alcoholic phenols and black peppercorns. A pleasant caramel drizzled toast brings out a nuttiness in there as well, all in all chalk full of malt and hops. Flavors collide with the bittering hops here, dark roasted malt bitterness potentiates the pine earthy resinous hops riding the waves of carbonation in my first few sips...as the palate adjusts it's still satisfies with a slightly warming effect of the booze. The dry hopping probably makes and breaks this beer, the strong lingering bitterness really Americanizes this black saison into the hybrid known as the "Perfect Crime" The mouthfeel also welcomes the light smoked meat aspect in the back of the nares, not really dominant against the big hops and dark malts utilized but well played nonetheless. Dry hints of cherry tartness and other vine ripened fruit additions start to explode as the beer warms a bit, complex ale in 12 ounces, I'm guessing this beer keeps getting better considering it's 4/25/13.

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Photo of BigBry
3.6/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a single bottle, one of the more interesting options available.
Pours a dark brown color, nearly black, slightly hazed with a tight head. Dots of lace coat the glass. Noticable saison like aromas to start, with spiciness and other fruit and floral notes. Smokiness doesn't really come out until the aftertaste.
Taste has lots going on, not sure I could pick out all the elements. Did get some pepper notes, bitter fruit, sharp spices, some oak-like wood, and the smoky charred grain. Alcohol is well hidden. Dry mouthfeel, body is light despite its dark color. No real sweetness or hoppy character, so fits the style and expectations.

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Photo of smcnulty1981
3.6/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: pours with a nice black color when held to the light there is a brown hue with about 2 fingers of a light brown kahki head with some lacing

S: some chocolate and coffee notes with a hint of a smokey hickory

T: hint of chocolate and coffee again on the taste

M: the body was a lot lighter than the color would indicate there was a fairly thin body with not the carbonation level that is expected of a saison

O: this was tough to rate being that its a unique style I tired to compare to other smoked beers however this collaboration fell a little short of the markof description and having had beers from all three breweries this was not the best from all of them

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Photo of Vancoubeer
3.61/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured into my snifter it comes out with a similar color to root beer. Not a whole lot of foam and was not being gentle. Straight pour into the glass and not tipping the glass. I must say I am surprised. Not a whole lot of lacing but overall its dark and looks good. In the smell it smells good. To compare to other black saisons, it does not have the same scent. Maybe its too fresh but compared to pepe nero it lacks that saison like scents. There is a bit of a belgian yeast character that stands out. Where is the smoke? Well its in the flavor. Its not strong but its there. In regards to saison flavors, they are there but the tartness or dank flavors you may get in a traditional one are really not there. Its not bad. There is not a roasty character for the black malts that is nice and not over bearing. The smoke actually lingers in the back. Nothing extrordinary but its good. I like it but I like the other saison in the Collaboration series better. The hops, as advertised are hard to find in the flavor. There is an earthyness in the taste. Perhaps that is it but for someone that really enjoys beer its hard to find. The mouthfeel is average. Its a saison. But one thing is for sure, its not bad its just not doing it for me. I rarely give an average score for beer. I normally really enjoy beer and can find some positive traits. I am not sure where these guys were going with this. Is it bad? Heck no. Its a really good beer. I must admit I am being critical based on the hype, the names on the bottle and the fact that I have really liked the collaboration series. For transparency I am really not into smoked beers but this is a very mild smoked beer and if I was someone who was wanting to enter this category of beer this is a good start. I would totally say get this beer. For a smoked beer lover, this will be a let down. For a saison fan, give it a shot. Its good but there are better ones out there (if you are a beer nerd like me).

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Photo of KFBR392
3.62/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark brown color, sit pitch black in the glass. About two fingers of head which subsided to about half a finger. Very active carbonation with some creamy lacing left on the glass.

Smell: Bready yeast and peanuts jumps out the most. But there are some floral hops, apricots, and spices which really make for a unique aroma. Darker malts and black licorice also can be found. Each time I put my nose to this brew I was finding different aspects that jumped out to me. Nothing is at an elite level, but it is well done how everything going on here meshes together.

Taste: A slight charred malt and oak front hits the palette first. The body evens out with a light to medium bodied yeast kiss. A lot of banana, nut, and leafy greens here. The finish is like the beginning with a chalky smoked malt flavor. The aftertaste is very light, the malt character sticks around. Not as complex as the aroma but still a nice ride.

Mouthfeel: Very light, especially for what the majority of the flavors are here.

Overall: A fun beer to drink. I wouldn't be sure exactly what to call it, but thats part of the fun here. I like going for something bold on a collaboration beer and they did the job. I love the story on the back of the bottle which we all know is synonymous with Stone products, this one written by the Evil Twin brewmaster.

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Photo of SanFranJake
3.63/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

In the interest if full disclosure, saison's aren't my fave but by no means am I opposed and with these three brain-trusts, I had to try.
Pours a dark brown with minimal head which fades rather fast.
Lots of scents like what others have mentioned, none of which really stand out.
Taste leaves a bit to be desired. It's not bad, just not great either.
Overall, would I buy it again...sure. But it wouldn't be a "must have", just a "should try" given the guys who put their name on the bottle.

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Photo of GarthDanielson
3.64/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, brown-to-black coloring with a frothy, bubbly, dense, low profile, light tan head. Aromas of tangy sweet, roasted notes, bitter coffee and hops characteristics, tart fruit notes, and subtle spicing. Flavors are tangy throughout, with cherry and berry sweetness. Some very subtle peat and smoke notes, with a hint of tangy hops building towards the tail end. Definitely leaning heavy on the sweet side, with the roast keeping it slightly in check. Light, crisp bodied, with a tangy sweet, fruity aftertaste. Effervescent, crisp finish. This beer is pretty interesting; unlike any I've had before.

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Photo of charlzm
3.65/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Consumed on January 3rd, 2013 from a Klokke Roeland goblet.

Beer pours a clear dark brown with deep garnet highlights. Head is less than a finger tall and dissipated quickly.

Aromas: bubblegum and a little banana all but mask a touch of funk.

Flavor is smooth and surprisingly bitter at the end. Slightly metallic, a touch of smoke, some dark malts that are more charred than roasted. Not much of the promised smoke flavor to be found. Almost no funk or farm character, either. Maybe a touch of sour cherry or somethign in the midtaste.

Mouthfeel is a little silky, smooth and thick. Slightly dry on the finish.

The oddest beer I've ever had with the "saison" label applied to it. This is to saison what Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is to IPA. A decent enough beer to drink, but would be a big fail if rating to style guidelines of saison.

Ratings reflect the beer only relative to the general world of beer, as it can't be properly evaluated as the purported style.

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Photo of BucannonXC5
3.65/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Type: Draft
Glass: Tulip
From: Stone Brewing Company
Price: $6
BOD: N/A

Black with a finger (when I got it) of tan head. Good lacing - foamy and milky. Good retention.

Smelled toffee, caramel, chocolate, molasses and light dark sour fruit.

Tasted sour fruit, grape, kiwi, plum, chocolate and toffee with a slightly bitter finish.

Medium body. Oily texture. Fizzy (high) carbonation. Astringent finish.

I was a bit disappointed overall. Lots of flavors but nothing that really stood out.

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Photo of Pencible
3.67/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with a bit of light tan head.
S: It smelled like fresh wheat and grassy hops, with some lemon and a little roasted barley and smoky coffee.
T: It tasted like grassy and lemon hops, with some smoky roasted coffee and earthy wheat. It had a clean and smoky aftertaste.
M: It was somewhat thick with lots of carbonation. Nice lively body.
D: This was a successful attempt at brewing a smoked black saison, with nicely balanced scent and taste and a fitting body. The finish was relatively smooth, so it was not difficult to drink. Good to try once, although I probably would never have it again.

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Photo of spinrsx
3.69/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12oz Bottle from Bristol Farms Palm Desert CA for 4$

Appearance - Dark brown colour with an average size fizzy beige head. I can't make out the amount of carbonation showing and there is some good lacing. The head lasted for 2-3 minutes before it was gone.

Smell - Malts, chocolate, grains

Taste & Mouth - There is an average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts, chocolate, and coffee. There are also some smokey/burnt notes and a bit of a graininess. It ends with a malty smokey aftertaste.

Overall - It doesn't really smell smokey but it's in the taste.. but not a whole lot. It's light bodied but the flavours are nice. It just isn't all that exciting. It needs a little more gusto in my opinion.

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Photo of thegodfather1076
3.69/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Presentation: Very eye-catching bottle with a classic color scheme. Front neck label states that this is part of Stone Collaborations 2012. Front label gives the contributing breweries and ABV info. Back label gives a back story on the beer as well as web info on all involved in the collaboration. Back neck label gives a definitions of collaboration in the Stone style. Side label gives cellering info and a brewed on date(10/26/2012). Everything is painted on.

Appearance: I decanted this from its 12oz bottle into a 16oz snifter. Pours out a deep dark brown if not black color An aggressive pour lead to a 1 finger tan foam head of medium density. Head retention was a solid 2min 3sec before fading to a nice thick ring and coating. Excellent Lacing!

Smell/Aroma: Smells initially of a bubblegum fruitiness with subtle hints of smoke. Also has the traditional Belgian saison yeasty smell. Very interesting.

Flavor/Taste: Tastes is very roasty on the front end with slight hints of smoke. This is followed up by a slightly chocolaty bitter flavor with hints of dark fruits. Very little saison flavor here.

MouthFeel/Drinkability: Medium bodied and silky smooth with a nice amount of carbonation. Drinkable.

Overall/Comments: A very different brew that I was eager to try but not really sure what I would experience. Very interesting and well put together although I think my expectations may have been a bit high. Classified as a Saison/Farmhouse Ale at 6.8%. Consumed 2-2-13.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.7/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Unibroue tulip glass. Pours a very dark, nearly opaque brown, appearing black in the glass. Fine two-finger light brown head with great retention and lacing. Pleasant aroma of light fruit, citrus, toasted malt, licorice and saison yeast. Flavor is light toasted malt, light wild yeast, light smoke, finishing with a somewhat medicinal light hop bitterness. The taste is surprisingly flat for the variety of flavors. Nice medium body with light creaminess. This resembles a hybrid between a light porter and a saison, but not really all that well integrated. An interesting, but somewhat attenuated flavor combination.

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Photo of Oakenator
3.73/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pitch black in appearance with at least a finger of head on a 10 oz pour. Good retention and lacing. Smells malty yet fruity - maybe green apple. Almost sour style and hiding behind that you can find a bit of smoke. The flavor is malt forward, chalky with more typical Saison spices on the back end - I get celery, parsley, others. Typical Saison has a real clean finish - on this one the dark malt lingers through that and beyond. Different.

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Photo of rangerred
3.73/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a pint glas

Pours pitch black with a one finger tan head. Really good rocky head retention and awesome lacing on the sides of the glass.

Aroma has the trademark Belgian yeastyness that I expect from a Saison but also a nice curveball of roasted malt with a hint of smoke. The roast and smoke are subtle but enough is there to let you know that this is not your average Saison.

This uniqueness carries over into the flavor where once again, there is a little something extra happening. Belgian yeast up front with the typical fruity flavors common in this style but there are subtle hints of caramel and burnt toast. I also pick up coffee and dark chocolate along with very faint smoke. Quite nice but then comes the mouthfeel. The mouthfeel is is full and slick with a sticky finish. Now I wonder if this is really a Saison. Where is the light crisp mouthfeel and bone dry finish? This really ruins the whole experience.

Overall, a great idea but it just doesn't work. I wonder if all the specialty malts made bone dry attenuation simply impossible? I think this might be the case but if so, then why even attempt a "smoked saison"? Nonetheless an interesting take on a classic style and worth picking up if you come across it.

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Photo of ElSid
3.74/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

The Beers of California

#48

Bottled Date: 2012

A: Black and opaque with a thin khaki film of head.

S: Mostly burnt barnyard funk with an acidic edge, dark grain, chocolate and earthy bitterness.

T: The funky bite is there built on a dark grain, bread and brown sugar malt foundation. The malt is predominately grainy with a dash of liquid smoke adding a char edge. There is also some banana yeast esters, bittersweet dark chocolate presence, along with an earthy, leafy hop bitterness which also has tinges of citrus peel. The finish is mildly dry with a spicy, acidic bite.

M: The feel is medium to full with a graIny chewiness and a good amount of carbonation adding another layer of interest to the experience.

O: A truly unique brew which is the product of a collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone. Very interesting with layers and layers of complexity which mostly works. With all things new, this brew is difficult to review but the originality found here ultimately succeeds.

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing
79 out of 100 based on 187 ratings.
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