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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
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648 Ratings
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.80%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
188
Ratings:
648
pDev:
14%
Bros Score:
3.18
 
 
Wants:
10
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Trade:
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Photo of bigbluebeerguy
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Photo of CityofBals
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Photo of vinny21bal
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Photo of MusicaleMike
2.8/5  rDev -20%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tulip glass. Poured a very dark brown, verging on black with deep ruby hues at the edge of the beer. Head is substantial, tight, and leaves some really decent lacing. Definitely a good start for this beer.

Served right out of the fridge, there was no aroma to speak of, so I let the beer warm up for a while, holding with both hands to try and help speed the process up. Eventually, I start to be able to smell this saison, but even as it approaches a warmer temp, it is still fairly subdued. What I do get is a very light aroma of hay, wheatgrass, and herbal hops. Smokey? Only in the subtlest of ways, and even then I'm not sure if it is just because I am looking for it.

Finally at the right temp, this beer exhibits a weak mix of smoke, hops and black saison. I expect something more aggressive from brewers like Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone. I personally think "smoke" is missing from the equation altogether and that even the "Dark Saison" characteristics are a bit lost here.

Dry, medium body and well carbonated. Kinda spot on for where it needs to be for a saison. Gotta give credit where it is due.

Yeah, I was disappointed by the beer a bit. I feel like they advertised this as one thing (Smoked Black Saison) and went after a very "delicate" version of that and ultimately fell short of delivering that unique style. It had good Saison qualities, but missed the boat for the other things.

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Photo of sweemzander
2.86/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a pitch black color. Produced some tan froth.

(S)- A light smoky roasted raisin aroma meets some mellow cocoa and baked bread-like yeastiness.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. Overall, an up front combo of a salty smoke brine meets roasted malts and some raisin/cocoa.

(M)- A good carbonation level. The balance is good too, just a slightly too heavy smoke component that gets in the way of the rest of the beer.

(O)- An interesting take on the style. I just do not think it is completely successful. Some good things in there, but the smoke could definitely be toned down a bit while still being present instead of overpowering.

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Photo of TastyFoodAndDrink
2.86/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On sight, "The Perfect Crime" pours a pleasant deep chocolate brown with just a hint of off white head. The nose is one of smokey espresso with a hint of spice and hop. Perhaps time in the bottle has robbed it of some complexity.

On the palate it opens with the same smoked flavor, but then gets a little bit funky. The medium and smooth body carries spice, but not in a discernible way. The roasting almost takes on a piney-herbal note. It ends rather slowly with a pine-chocolate smoke flavor that, while not bad, isn't something that asks for you to come back. Perhaps two years ago this was more entertaining, but now it seems little more common place, calling to mind Back in Black from 21st forcibly.

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Photo of brewdlyhooked13
2.88/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - dark, no light getting through. Nice finger of light mocha head, lacy and sticky.

Aroma - mostly the dark malts, a whiff of something earthy/saison/funk-like but nothing clear.

Taste - so I'm looking mostly for balance among the black malts and/or smoke, and the saison. The malts are certainly charred, nearly ashen, but not particularly smoky. Mid-palate contains the first note of the saison. I think it's basically the yeast I'm picking up - a little tart and funky but any delicate flavors are lost in the heavy roast. I guess it does what it was intended to do, but it reminds me of a stout that has starting to turn with infection. Ends with the saison dryness and black char.

Mouthfeel - crisp, smooth, good firm body to amply support all the flavor going on.

Overall - not that enjoyable for me, but I can drink and appreciate the good balance to this one.

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Photo of Chaney
2.93/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Stone IRS glass.

A: Poured a dark, burnt brown, with only a few bubbles posing as a head.

S: Smelled like rotten, fermented fruit actually. Quite a bit of booze in there as well.

T: Still, those rotten esters really lingered which wasn't pleasant. I actually kinda dug the smokiness of this though.

M: Very low in carbonation and lacing overall. Okay here.

O: Never would have tagged this as a saison... more like Belgian Strong or something. Either way, it wasn't good.

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Photo of Treyliff
2.96/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A- pours black, but not quite opaque, khaki foamy and sudsy head that reduces to a small bubbly layer, leaving a little bit of lace

S- strange bouquet of aromas, starting with some toasted grainy malt with a little bit of toffee/caramel, dried dark fruit, blackberries, just a hint of smoke. Not really picking up any saison aromas, but there us an off puting metallic/sour aroma at the end

T- sweet caramel malt flavors are meshed with some astringent dark fruit/berry flavors, their are some faint yeasty saison flavors, but for the most part are masked by a sweet and fruity malt flavor. The smoke aspect is barely detectable any there's some metallic flavors on the finish

M- medium body with low carbonation, slightly foamy mouthfeel with a crisp finish

O- not really sure what they were going for here. This tastes nothing like a saison, the 'smoked' flavors are barely noticeable, and overall it's all over the place

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Photo of PDXHops
2.97/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

12 ounce bottle poured into a La Chouffe tulip. Just a few shades shy of black with a head that's disappointing in terms of volume, but is tightly formed and leaves a fair amount of lacing up top.

The nose on this is like Exhibit A of why I haven't been a huge fan of the black saisons I've run into so far. It's pleasant enough but roast and light chocolate notes blunt any notions of the typical saison stuff. Dark fruit, mild spicing, bready. I dunno, pleasant but not what I'm expecting. It has to warm up plenty before the smoky notes begin to amount to much

The smoky flavor is more pronounced, and there's a sharp roast bite to this stuff. Oddly it's kinda thickish and creamy. It's yeasty, but without the crisp and bright spicy/fruity/lively goodness you want in a saison. A rare dud from Escondido.

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Photo of Pinknuggets
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle to oversized wine glass

A: dark brown with hints of red to it but its also pretty close to black as it is completely opaque. There is a dark tan head that dissipates and leaves a ring around the top of the glass.

S: There is a little but of that hopped farmhouse smell but its not really there and there are hints at best of the smokiness though the malt is very present and unfortunately so is the alc.

T: As with the nose there is that saison hop taste but it is very mild and the smoke is there (once the beer warms up) but it is definitely in the background it seems balanced to me but not necessarily in a good way as it is just bland.

M: The mouth feel is oily and fairly smooth which is what makes this beer more drinkable and is probably the best part in my opinion and its nothing to write home about.

O: Well I was expecting a lot more from the three breweries involved, but evil twin is kinda hit or miss for me. Anyways it was just pretty bland no powerful taste or smell a decent mouthfeel and look but it definitely doesn't do much for me, but it also wasn't horrible.

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Photo of mactrail
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Dark mahogany color in the Saxo tall tulip with a modest foam. Average carbonation. Very thin body but a decent sudsiness. I would call this a black Cascadian IPA, but then it is flushed with a whole lot of the Belgian dry yeastiness. A hint of apples and burnt oatmeal.

This stuff is quite sharp and bitter. Not hardly like a Saison, even stretching the style, but I'll rate it as such. Seems like the collaboration yields Stillwater's excess of the dry yeast flavors, along with Stone's prediliction for turning everything into an IPA, plus Evil Twin's murky silliness. Seems like a perfect crime to me.

Sourish aftertaste is even less appealing after all the harsh bitterness. And then it dries out from there and leaves a film on the teeth and the sensation of cardboard. From the 12 oz bottle bought at Grapevine Liquors in Denver.

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Photo of harrymel
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Found this at Bottleworks, bottled 26OCT12

Black with a light tan etch across the surface. Smells of earth, yeast, clay, some light smoke, some cocoa, and a touch of tobacco. Flavor is light, some oaky mesquite character earthy yeast and a little bit of alcohol and some bitterness. Medium body with light carb and a semi dry finish. Not really into it.

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Photo of JK4Stout
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Not too shabby. Pours a very dark brown. Could go even darker for the style, but we won't get picky here. Has a decent head, but it dissipated quickly.

S: There are better sassions out there in this department. It has a definite note of that tart/citrus-y/methanol-y scent I come to attribute with the style, but there is also a weakness in this area. it smells unfinished.

T: Not bad, but nothing really exciting with this ale. Certainly not worth the price. It does have a lingering smoky flavor, so I give it points for that, but not much else. All in all this is Stone's most mediocre collaboration offering. Sure it looks good, has a great name, and a cool label...but sadly I'm not six and I need something more than that at my age.

M: It is strong and medium in weight to the tongue. I think it fits the style pretty well here in this catagory. Carbonation could have been taken down a scosh.

O: I just can't get on board here. Sorry, Stone. I love most of your brew, but this one just fell short. I love the collaboration series. I think the very idea behind it deserves recognition...but either do more tweaking before a release or stick to a style you are all more comfortable with.

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Photo of BlurryVisi0n
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tulip glass.

Appearance: Body is thin you can tell from the pour coming off a solid black with an orange tint to the body. Rising high is the head maybe just a notch above a finger's length.

Smell: A citrus skin no doubt about it. Freaking light as the air you breathe, comes in and out just as quick.

Taste: iwill tell you this, it is sour, not crazy over whelming sour but you feel the lemon zest to this brew. Light bitterness to it and also cant forget to mention just a little peppery.

Mouth: Like I mentioned above a light peppery finish with a medium body, not too bad.

Overall: i give it this, that this brew comes off complex but other than it needs to taste and feel good to be a member of the elite. Sure there are guys that like "something different" but this beer needs beyond tweaking and should be either left in the store or just laid to rest. Salud!

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3/5  rDev -14.3%

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3/5  rDev -14.3%

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3/5  rDev -14.3%

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3/5  rDev -14.3%

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing
Beer rating: 3.5 out of 5 with 648 ratings
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