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Robert & Ryan / Rip Current / Stone R&R Coconut IPARobert & Ryan / Rip Current / Stone R&R Coconut IPA

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Stone Brewing
California, United States

Style: American IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.70%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by ESPNman on 07-27-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of magictacosinus
2.48/5  rDev -34%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a tulip glass from a 22oz bomber. Freshness date is listed as "10/10/13."

Pours a very typical West Coast style IPA - amber, relatively clear, not too much carbonation, and a frothy, off-white head. In this case, the head retention is pretty low, reducing itself to a ring in the glass that lasts throughout consumption. Slightly viscous, but pretty standard. Doesn't bring anything new, and would not draw any suspicion that it contained coconut.

The aroma is a combination of faint citrus notes and... Something that, at least to me, resembles a degree of coconut. People everywhere appear to claim that this has none, but that is definitely not the case for me. I was raised in Brazil part of my life, where água de coco (coconut water) was an everyday affair for many people in Rio. Rather than impart the coconut texture many people here are more familiar with (milky, sweet), this far more resembles the coconut flavor I grew up with, which is tangy, musty, and slightly acidic. Unfortunately, this resembles borderline coconut rind flavors underneath the citrus and slightly sweet toffee malts. The result is a bit disconcerting. This is a fresh batch - why does it smell so stale and musty?

The flavor is far worse, resembling nothing but faint citrus and coconut skin rinds (or brine) all the way at the finish. I am astonished how little I enjoyed drinking this, especially because I am a fan of coconut. It resembles a cheapened piña colada in some ways, and in other ways in feels like someone spiked a half-decent IPA with coconut water. The hop profile here is pretty mild for Stone, and at least there's some decent creaminess with the carbonation and malty backbone. However, the musty coconut flavor became increasingly oppressive, and combined with a bizarre, raspy, grainy aftertaste, it was indeed a chore to finish all the way.

I've had enough great results with past Stone experiments that I've become comfortable buying just about anything they release with the full hope that it will be worthwhile. This was an enormous disappointment. Who knew that a coffee IPA would be more successful than a coconut variant? I feel sad giving this a bad score, but for many reasons listed above, I can't be generous here. Avoid, unless a hardcore fan of Stone's offerings.

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Photo of Beaver13
2.53/5  rDev -32.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

22 oz bottle. Pours clear golden orange with a medium bubbly white head that quickly goes to a thin film that laces the glass.

The aroma is sweet bready malts, some ripe tropical fruit (with light coconut) and floral hops with a bit of stink.

The flavor is sweet malts with a kind of chemical coconut flavor and bitter grassy hops that taste a bit charred in the aftertaste. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with creamy carbonation.

Overall, an interesting experiment but doesn't work for me. The coconut tastes fake and the doesn't work with the grassy floral hops. I much prefer their coffee IPA.

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Photo of vfgccp
2.74/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2

Enjoy by Oct 2013, opened Aug 2013.

A - Amber, semi-hazy body. Nice off-white head has great retention and lace.

S - Dried apricot, condensed milk, musky sweat, and a touch of green plants.

T - Nice, fresh resiny hop character but fairly little coconut. Sharp, resiny pine and honey. Rosewater, grass, and just a touch of raw coconut on the back end.

M - Relatively vanilla, medium body. Not bad, but not great.

O - Not enough coconut for billing on the label.

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Photo of kojevergas
2.82/5  rDev -25%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Awroight. 7.7% ABV confirmed. Self identifies as an "India Pale Ale Brewed and Flavored with Coconut." Reviewed as such. 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with nice printed-on label art and branded pry-off cap acquired earlier tonight at a local SoCal bottle shop and served into a flared stem-snifter/tulip hybrid glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average given the brewery.

Served cold, straight from the fridge, and allowed to warm just a biteen over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger wide head of beige colour. Above average thickness. Okay creaminess. Above average (~3.5+ minutes). Light weak lacing as the head recedes.

Body colour is a clear copper of average vibrance. Translucent. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Overall, it's pretty standard fare for the style. Not unique or special, but no overt flaws are immediately evident.

Sm: Floral hops, caramalt, clean pale malts, barley, mango, and grapefruit. I normally wouldn't notice any coconut (like if it wasn't blatant on the label), but when I really really search, I do find some light coconut shavings on the back-end; not at all an evocative note or even a pleasant one. They clearly didn't use enough coconut; it feels like a homebrew attempt at a coconut beer. When Kona does it better, you know you're amateur. Some apricot and peach. It's a biteen artificial, like some extract was used. That certainly contributes to the homebrew vibe. An above average strength aroma with no detectable yeast character or alcohol. Not impressive, but pleasant and inviting for what it is.

T: Hmm. Unwelcome tropical fruit hop esters (mango, apricot, tangerine, peach, melon, fruit punch) mix unfavorably with overdone caramalt and clean malts. Any coconut shavings/coconut milk notes are extremely light and get buried deep beneath the hop notes; talk about a lack of subtlety or respect for balance. They really missed the mark on the coconut. Some hop bitterness does leak out and goes untamed - not a pleasant note. Some candi-like sweetness; I might even suspect a dash of candi sugar was used. As it warms, it becomes evident too much caramalt was used. It's not gestalt, and feels haphazard. Floral hops. Not getting any oily, nectary, or juicy citrusy hops. Even the grapefruit is quite limited. It's just pretty meh all around. Its below average depth of flavour and flavour intensity certainly don't help it. Flavour duration is average. Little complexity or subtlety here, and careless balance. Poor layering. I'm not much of a fan.

No yeast character or alcohol is detectable. Overhopped.

No blatant off-flavours are noticeable.

All things considered, as it warms I do grow to love the finish - which has the most coconut shavings/coconut milk. It's a nice refreshing end to an unremarkable flavour profile. Too bad the whole beer isn't as good as the finish.

Mf: Overcarbonated. Full-bodied but lacking in flavour. Weak and empty. Muted. Not oily, harsh, or gushed, but a bit biting. Strangely coarse and dry on the climax, tanking drinkability. Bad presence on the palate for the style. A bit too thick. Doesn't seem brewed with the flavour profile in mind; it hardly matches up. Not to style. Sticky.

Dr: Another forgettable brew from the most overrated brewery in brewing history. Pedestrian gimmicky mediocrity that doesn't warrant a second (or even a first) purchase. Doesn't hide its alcohol particularly well. Wouldn't recommend to friends. I'll finish this bottle, but I wouldn't want another (even if it were free). Okay drinkability. I like the concept, but the execution is poor. What little quality there is here I attribute to Ryan Reschan.

Really gets better as it warms - surprising for an IPA. I initially gave it a Low C-, but as it warms it develops into a Low C.

Low C

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Photo of ArrogantB
2.86/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

22oz bottle, think it was $7.99. Bright orange color, great head, looks nice. Aroma is sort of underwhelming, not much hoppiness, tropical fruit or really much of anything, it is very muddled. Flavor is a let down, there is a strong alcohol component that overpowers the beer and I'll be damned if I did not taste coconut at all. A very mediocre IPA with just a lot of astringency. I was hoping for another good west coast IPA from Stone but this is not it.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
2.87/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Poured a clear golden orange color with good carbonation presenting a nice white head. The head retention was pretty decent which yielded some small curtains of lacing

S: The nose is a bit sweet with a light tropical fruit nose from the hop bill not the coconut. Speaking of coconut...where are you?

T: A sweet bready malt backgound with a nice dash of tropical fruits provided by the hops. However, the flavor of this beer muddy and wonky if you ask me. The coconut is waaay in the background. Even then, its not like a fresh coconut. A bit sweet, hefty finish, a little bit of oil as well

M: Medium bodied, carbonated well to a little low for me.

O: Wont try or recommend. Turn up the coconut.

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Photo of WynnO
2.93/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Relatively thin IPA with near zero coconut on the nose and taste.

If you say COCONUT on the label please give me some.

Minus this the beer is a typical Stone IPA, good when I first started drinking IPA's, however there are so many great IPA's today Stone has become pretty average.

Don't pass this up if you are offered it. It's not a bad beer, but I cannot recommend anyone proactively making a run to the beer store to buy one.

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Photo of hardy008
2.98/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Pours clear amber with a one finger off white head, with nice retention and lacing. The aroma has grapefruit, pineapple, and mango. I do not smell any coconut.

I can taste the coconut. It is not very strong. The beer is also much more bitter than the aroma suggested. To the point of being overly bitter. In addition to coconut, the taste also has grapefruit peeling and floral hops. this tastes quite a bit different than the aroma, which is unfortunate.

Medium bodied with average carbonation. Has a strong bitter aftertaste which I find unappealing. I'm glad I only bought one of these, because I honestly don't want to drink this beer again.

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Photo of mevett89
3/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: light amber with a thin white head. Pretty bubbles rising to the surface.

Aroma: pine and resin from the hops, with the faintest bit of coconut.

Taste: pine and resin bitterness from the hops, with the roasted coconut coming in a bit at the end, and especially in the aftertaste. The hops linger in the palate.

Mouthfeel: slick and smooth, form the coconut I presume. Medium bodied.

Overall: it's a good, solid IPA, but personally I wanted more coconut. I think I would prefer this if the hops were toned down to pale ale strength and the coconut were dialed up a notch, but to each their own. I would also prefer more citrusy hops, all I got were pine notes that didn't mesh as well with the coconut.

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Photo of litheum94
3.03/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

22 ounce bottle. Best by date of 10/10/13.

Brilliant golden body. Off-white head, fizzy. Crackles out to a whispy cover with pools of bubbles riding on top.

The nose is extremely floral, pungent and potpourri like. Some bready malts. Pine and grapefruit. Very vague coconut. I wouldn't have picked it up if I wasn't looking for it.

Dry, cracker, malt body. Very floral, a tad grassy. Lots of pine bitterness and some cracked pepper. Grapefruit zest. Some toasted coconut pops up as it warms, but again, I wouldn't have been able to pick it up if I didn't know that this was a coconut IPA. Extremely bitter on the finish, with pine flavors lingering forever.

This is one of those beers where you read the back of the bottle and wonder if your palate is broken, because what they describe is not at all what I taste. I think one of the main problems with this beer is that it's just too bitter for the coconut. It completely masks any hint of coconut flavor. This is a hard beer to rate, because as an IPA, I enjoyed it. But as a coconut IPA, I have to take off major points, because the coconut just isn't there.

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Photo of JohnG190
3.08/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy amber with a thin, quickly fading head. Little lace. Aroma is mix of dank and floral. Not much coconut to speak of. Some malt sweetness. Bitter hops hit the tongue first, followed by citrus and pine. Again, not much coconut flavor. Finishes immensely bitter, as one would expect from Stone. Medium bodied with decent carbonation for an IPA, slight astringency on the tongue on finish. Overall, a decent IPA, but if this were a blind tasting, I'd be hard pressed to call this a coconut IPA.

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Photo of Reappropriated
3.16/5  rDev -16%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This is a good beer, but I usually enjoy the Stone Collaborations more than this one.

Overall this is a solid IPA, but nothing more than that. There is very little if any hint of the coconut, which for a coconut IPA is a bit of a problem. Just about every other IPA that Stone makes is better (and cheaper) than this beer.

Appearance: The pour from a 22oz bottle is good, a nice golden color, with small to average head and slight lacing.

Smell: Somewhat tropical, hops, overall pleasant with a hint of something earthy that is hard to completely put your finger on.

Taste: Lots of hops up front, with a little citrus underneath, but not much more than that. I was really expecting the coconut to come in at the end, but in the fight between the hops and the coconut, the hops won in a complete knockout, creating my main complaint with the beer.

Overall it was enjoyable, but nothing special and nothing that is going to make me buy another bottle. If you want an IPA go with just about any of the others Stone makes, I prefer them and they are cheaper.

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Photo of beertunes
3.19/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Enjoy by date of 10/10/13. Stupid 22oz bottle format. Poured into straight pint glass. Poured a clean, clear light orangeish-gold color with 3/4 inch of off-white head that low retention and lacing.

The aroma was nicely hop forward, a floral-citrus blend with a hint of pine. There was a faint, but solid, malt foundation, but sign of any damn coconut. On the tongue, it was the same story, lots of hops, decent contrasting malts, and no coconut that I could find.

The body was perhaps a bit fuller than typical for the style, which fit this beer pretty well. Drinkability was good, typical for a solid IPA. Overall, a nice change of pace from the regular Stone IPA. Worth a shot if you see it, if the $8 price is acceptable to you, just don't expect to find coconut.

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Photo of ehammond1
3.24/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On Tap

Churchill's Pub & Grille

Unfortunately, this didn't turn out anything like the incredible homebrew example I tried. This is a fairly boring, somewhat bitter, IPA from Stone. Ruin 10, Enjoy By, Ruin, regular IPA, etc. etc. are all better than this. No coconut presence whatsoever. Really disappointed in this one. I'd rather drink a regular Stone IPA than search for the coconut in this that isn't there.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.3/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

22oz. bomber into a Heady Topper stemless snifter.

Pours a 1 finger rich, white head with good retention. Beer is a clear copper. Lacing is thick and layered and spotty with great stick. Very nice looking beer.

Nose is coconut flesh, citrus, sap resin hop bitterness and cane sugar sweetness. Good balance. Moderately aromatic. Solid.

Opens sap hop bitterness. Some caramel, coarse brown sugar, citrus, and a biting hop presence in the middle. End is a slight bitter coconut skin at the end. Finishes resin and bitter with more of the same in the aftertaste. No real coconut flavor at all here. Not bad but certainly a bit disappointing.

Light to medium bodied with ample carbonation. Prickly and crisp in the mouth and goes down filmy and sticky. Finishes messy with a long, lingering aftertaste. Ok.

There was a fair amount of hype for this brew and honestly, it really doesn't live up to it. Just a regular IPA from Stone with almost no coconut presence. Skip this one.

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Photo of bobhits
3.3/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours bright and clearly olden colored with a white foam cap.

Notes of citrus grape fruit mostly. Some very basic caramel malts and I dunno maybe just the label but I'm calling a "something else" coconut.

The flavor is much the same. Citrus grape fruit with an interesting malt finish. Mostly the caramel malt with perhaps some oak and coconut but honestly the damn beer is called coconut IPA so I'm just assuming that's it. The flavor lingers on the tongue and there's a good bit of resin.

Very clean and given coconut is known for the fatty elements of it, I kinda expected a bit of a film or thickness to the beer that would make it richer than the 7.7% would normally give. That didn't happen.

It's a good ipa but the price sucks given it's just a pretty good one. A 14 dollar sixer might be a possible max for this one and trust me a 22 oz pour isn't called for. Good yes, but it isn't worth going out of your way for.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.3/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

22 ounce bottle - $7.49 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a bright, clear, yellow-orange body with a hefty, foaming, whitish head. Moderate lacing.

Smell: Pale malts, bready, a bit cookie-hinting before the stronger, more fragrant hops hit the nose -- fresh flowers, citrus fruits, mango. The coconut addition remains rather delicate, timid even.

Taste: Lightly bready pale malts with a touch of sugar cookie to it, though, don't get me wrong, there's very little sweetness present. Floral, lemony hops, also a bit of additional tropical fruit, even some apricot. Brightly bitter throughout. The coconut remains regrettably subtle. A little toastiness and coconut peeks through on the dry, bitter, acidic finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Slightly oily on the tongue.

Overall: Pass. I was left wanting more coconut flavor as very little showed up in the final product, at least for me.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.31/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Picked up a the COOP for about $7ish... seems pricey.

Pours a very clear orange with a decent 1 finger head... nice lacing but the head dropped very quickly.

Nose shows good tropical fruity hops... melon and some papaya... a bit of agave syrup... but nothing I associate with coconut.

There may be some coconut.. but it is waaaay on the finish.. the hops blow it out of the water.. mango hoppiness with a pretty bitter bite begins up front and finishes almost as strong..

Really pretty strong ABV... the hops push up front and to the back but get a hammer by the EtOH..

With room temperature warmth.. the coconut might bloom a bit, but that also could my mind wanting it to come about after soo long.

Decent and expected Stone IPA... but if you want any Coconut, this is a waste of time and a pretty big waste of money.


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Photo of corysmith01
3.31/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

This review is an odd one because, if it was just an IPA, I'd probably notch it a few points higher. The nose and taste are what you'd expect from a quality IPA. Lots of citrus with a balanced yet pronounced bitter finish. So, as an IPA, this is pretty solid.

The problem is that this is a coconut IPA. I had looked forward to having this for some time and must admit I was a bit let down. If I really concentrated, I could make out just the tiniest hint of coconut, perhaps on the first sip or two. But as I went on, it was all hop bitterness. In fact, if you had given this to me and not told me what it was, I would have never guessed there was any coconut present. So, to that end, I had to rate it down...not because it's not a solid IPA, but because it doesn't really deliver on the promise.

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Photo of DJNordz
3.31/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a Dogfish pint looks and smells delicious but like most people probabyly were, I was expecting a refreshing coconut IPA. This was an overly dry and bitter IPA and I did not taste any coconut through the entire bottle. It was so far from what I was expecting that I had to use the 'gansetts I had bought with it to wash the taste out of my mouth. Maybe it was my expectations that were wrong but if a light refreshing IPA with hints of coconut is what you want this will not satisfy that craving.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.32/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Alluring golden color. Foam is minimal and almost not present at all. Good clarity on this brew. The nose is straight forward as advertised. Primarily I'm getting the citrus hops but there is the lingering trace of coconut. The mouthfeel is a bit boozy and warm. That hop burst of flavor is intense. I'm not sure that the interplay of citrus hops and the coconut is working. The bitterness of the hops overwhelms the sweetness of the coconut and they are at odds with each other. I appreciate the daring, but this is a miss.

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Photo of Hopswagger
3.33/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

P: Pale clear golden body with streaming effervescence and a huge creamy off white blanket of clouds resting on top. Wet lacing slides gracefully up and down the walls.

S: Juicy tropical fruits, lots of lime, melon, stone fruit and dried coconut. Faint aroma of wet socks.

T/M: Huge dose of spice that dwindles to bitter citrus fruits and a soapy presence. Perfume/herbal booze. Coconut is faint but comes in toward the end and brings a warming sensation. Full bodied with a creamy carbonation. Super dry finish of citrus oils.

O: Call me crazy but I'm not getting the coconut like I expected to. The exexuition seemed rough unlike the normal refined Stone brews. This was decent but not really jaw dropping. A beautifully poured brew with a nice nose.

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Photo of allengarvin
3.33/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

This pours a light orange-amber color, with a small head. Aroma offers some sweet malt and citrus hops--maybe a very light coconut scent--not sure. The flavor is mostly hops, grassy and citrusy. Not much malt. And, frankly, I'm having trouble detecting any coconut flavor. Tastes like a generic pale ale to me. The body is nice and light for the strength.

Certainly not worth the $6.99 price tag. Could pass for any generic IPA.

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Photo of alphagnome
3.35/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

pours incredibly clear! Bronze in color and crowned by a think and airy, off-white head that hangs around for awhile. Mild carbonation is visible.

Pungent hops fill the nostrils up front, followed by nice (but subtle) roasted coconuts, mango and pineapple closes the aroma. Your sense of smell will dance as this one bounces back and forth between bitter to sweet is.

Taking a sip, you are greeted by a blast of bitterness. Hop city! The taste is very grassy with faint hints of melon. Unfortunately, there is a lot left to be desired here. The aftertaste presents itself with a fair amount of tropical fruit and a faint reminded that coconut was used in brewing. Considering coconut was the main selling point for me, I would like more presence. I also think a bit more malt for balance would do this one wonders.

Incredibly dry from start to finish. Mild carbonation.

I like the idea here and think this could be a solid brew, unfortunately as it is, there is not enough here to make me want to run and get another.

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Photo of MNishCT77
3.36/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

22 oz. bottle purchased in the greater Washington D.C. area, unknown bottling date but best buy 10/10/13, poured into my FFF Teku glass, drank 10/5/13 over an hour.

A: 2/3 - deep orange-golden coloration, minimal clarity (can't see or read through), initial soapy white head dissipates into subtle glass lacing, moderate alcohol legs

S: 8/12 - lots of bleachy Cascade aroma; the bottle is all about the tropical fruit aromas but I smell none; no coconut aroma at all; 66.67% is a gift but I'm really not feeling this aroma at all

T: 13/20 - on the anterior tongue, there is an unpowering Cascade bitterness; it the middle of the mouth, the bitterness continues to linger with minor malt balance (marmalade and honey flavors) and alcohol; although it finishes dry, the worst aspect of the taste, in my opinion, is the lingering bitterness and the total lack of coconut flavors

M: 3/5 - moderate-bodied with hop oils coating the tongue, the alcohol is present but doesn't taste like a 7.7%ABV; moderate-to-high carbonation

O: 6/10 - I really wanted to like this beer and was hoping for coconut flavors/aroma but I got none, which is very disappointing after reading all the positive reviews of the homebrew recipe; this is a moderate IPA at best and, with the American market filled with many bigger and better, I'd stay away unless they can grasp those elusive coconut flavors/aroma

TOTAL = 32/50

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Robert & Ryan / Rip Current / Stone R&R Coconut IPA from Stone Brewing
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