17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA | Stone Brewing

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17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Inspired by new experimental German hops, our brewing team is celebrating our 17th Jahrestag by taking palates on an unconventional tour of Deutschland by way of Southern California. In doing so, we used a grain bill comprised exclusively of pilsner malts and German hops with crazy awesome names: Herkules, Hersbrucker, Magnum, Merkur, Opal, Smaragd & Strisselspalt. Dry-hopping with Sterling, a U.S. hop with Saaz parentage, lends a bit of familiarity, but be forewarned, this is a unique beer that takes the IPA–a style we've already pushed far beyond it's previous limits over the years–to interesting new territory.

Added by JohnGalt1 on 08-14-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,800
Reviews:
335
Avg:
3.94
pDev:
10.41%
 
 
Wants:
31
Gots:
108
For Trade:
0
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Photo of kylehay2004
3.78/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: no head really on a hazy dull golden with light copper hue body.

S: aroma is mild with wet socks, grapefruit, soap, tangy tropical fruits and lemon zest

T: bready malts, orange peel, tart apple and grapefruit for citrus, resins and generic earthy flavors but it comes across as fairly simple but its just the right amount of sweetness.

M: medium body and moderate carbonation.

Overall: this one wasnt very special. I may just have very high expectations for Stone IPAs.

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3.91/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled 7/22/13.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy bone head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Foamy patches of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, citrus zest, and herbal and peppery hop aromas. Taste is much the same with citrus zest and peppery hop flavors on the finish. There is a fairly high amount of hop bitterness that lingers on the palate long after each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but slightly sticky mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with a nice mix of citrus, herbal, and peppery hop aromas and flavors that make this one easy to drink.

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4.05/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

a real interesting glass of beer here, and I love the idea of featuring german hops in an ipa style of beer, bolder and more hop forward than most of the more traditional and expertly balanced beers of the region. this has a glowing golden color, dense and a touch hazy, with a soft white head on top that looks like melting vanilla ice cream. I smell grassy elements here, not so much of the citrus or bitterness of the American ones, more gentle but equally flavorful is how I see it. some hints of lemon in there too, not like a sorachi ace hop, but subtle and less oily. I love the lighter grains which support but allow these hops to really shine. this would be exceptionally cool as a deconstructed series, each featuring just one of the german varietals (can you hear me stone?). a bit of an alcohol bomb at close to 10% abv, but it seems to fit fine, a pint is a lot of this. clean finish too, and a good body for the color, north of medium. everything about this beer is well executed, and it is another hoppy wonderland from stone. worth seeking out.

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look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at The Queen's Kickshaw, Astoria, NY

A: The beer is hazy orange yellow in color and has no visible carbonation. It poured with a thin white head that died down, leaving a thin collar around the edge of the glass. The head eventually completely faded away.
S: Strong aromas of grapefruit hops are present in the nose.
T: The taste starts out with strong amounts of bitterness, which overshadow the flavors of grapefruit citrus. The bitterness lingers through the finish.
M: It feels medium-bodied and very crisp on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is an "in your face" hoppy beer that is not for the faint of heart. It packs in a lot of hops, but the bittering hops really seem to stand out the most.

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3.98/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Deconstructing the German Lager, rearranging its pieces and putting it back together is what has happened to Stone's latest birthday beer. Its proportions now resemble the more recognizable Imperial IPA.

Bright gold in its appearance, the beer is stuck between the bolder look of Bohemian Pilsners or Dortmunder Lagers and lighter Pale Ale. Void of any haze, the ale gleams with straw highlights. Its steady carbonated streams build a froathy white head that easily outlasts the session and laces delicately with every sip.

Spicy and floral, the nose it front and center with Noble hop character. Woven together with honey-type malt aromas, the scent rounds into a wonderful honeysuckle note. Still, a background of spiciness is earthy, grassy, and tea-like. Its rustic and raw sweet scent tugs at the nose in much the same manner as freshly hung tobacco.

Thin caramel, honey, crusted and doughy sweetness greets the front of the mouth, just ahead of the soft fruitiness of hops. But as the middle palate develops, the malt sweetness is easily overtaken by the grassy, spiciness of those Noble German cones before a sharp and resinous bitterness builds in its finish. It's a stright-forward dialogue of hop dominance and malt support- just like American IPA. But uncharacteristic lager flavor and fauna are used instead of those more typical pale characteristics.

Medium-full on the palate, the texture is dry, racy and spicy- particularly after its short-lived sweetness runs its course. This leaves the finish with grassy chlorophyl-full astringency, spicy warmth and sharp crispness. Its a refreshing ale despite its peppery bite.

The beer might be just as well an Imperial Pilsner that utilizes the full 70 IBUs that IPA enjoys. Its a fantastic way to celebrate a very Cali-Bavarian 17th birthday!

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4/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

650ml bottle, thanks to the good doktorzee for picking this up for me on his recent sojourn to Orange County. A fine name for a beer bent on destroying hearts and minds and tastebuds (glad to see the cultural taboo about Germans and mayhem finally waning). Maybe this could be paired with La Fin du Monde, spiritually, and yet stylistically opposing.

This beer pours a clear, pale golden amber hue, with three fingers of puffy, loosely foamy eggshell white head, which leaves a broad swath of tornado touchdown lace around the glass as it slowly sinks into oblivion.

It smells of semi-sweet bready, doughy caramel malt, restrained pine resin, a bit of musty field honey, tannic black tea leaves, and earthy, somewhat demonically spicy floral hops. The taste is rather bitter right up front, as the acridity of the pine cone hoppiness kind of hits a standing three-bagger straight off. A seemingly meek, yet gritty caramel maltiness emerges a bit haltingly thereafter, amongst some more understated sourdough, and gradually emerging spicy, leafy, and decidedly un-perfumed floral hops.

The carbonation is fairly laid-back, mostly just manifesting in a teasing frothiness, the body a decent medium weight, and actually smooth, with a certain 'the end is near' fear knocking at the door from the swirling, yet polite enough hops. It finishes just off-dry, the grainy, bready caramel malt not willing to give up the ghost as yet, while the earthy, leafy, and piney hops do well to level off and remain stoically content in their fate.

S'funny, the only thing omitted in the small-type (I'm not that freaking old) musings on the standard Stone back label, is actually the only thing missing in my walkthrough here - that being the booze. They don't talk about it, and I don't sense it (taste-wise, that is). This is indeed a DIPA, one full of too many funny-sounding German hops to take any sort of stab at identifying, but the overall effect is of a pleasantly even application of bitterness in a well rendered west coast iteration of the style. The gods may be crazy, but might this not at least make them a bit more willing to just get along?

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2.84/5  rDev -27.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Picked this one up at me local HEB grocery this morning; it was delivered yesterday so freshness is guaranteed. 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with printed-on label art and branded pry-off cap served into an Independence Brewing pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are average given the brewery. Enjoy by: 11/13/13. Reviewed as an IPA (not an Imperial IPA) because it identifies as such on the label's description as well as in the name and on Stone's website.

Served cold, straight from me fridge. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as I pour.

Pours a one finger wide head of white colour. Decent creaminess and thickness. No real lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes. Head retention is average to above average (about 2-3 minutes).

Body colour is a clear somewhat pale copper of average vibrance. Transparent and translucent. No yeast particles are visible.

Overall, it's pretty standard fare for an IPA. Not unique or special, but there are no overt flaws. Appears adequately carbonated.

Sm: Pale malts, hideous lavender, graininess, honey, pilsner malts, floral hops, vague lemony citrus hop notes, and a soapiness indicative that the beer spent too much time spent in primary. Honeysuckle. Astringent tea. Caramalt. Doughy yeast. Boy, that lavender ruins it. An off-putting aroma of mild strength.

No alcohol is detectable. A bad aroma overall for the style.

T: Horrendous lavender - ugh. Lemon citrus esters, artificial lemon grass. Inappropriate Saaz-esque hop notes with a pilsner-like graininess and obnoxious bitterness. Honey. Pale malts. Pilsner malts. Caramalts. No piney, nectary, or juicy hop notes. Somewhat resinous. Build is simple; this really needs some complexity and subtlety. Subpar balance. By no means a gestalt beer. Has some cohesion, though. Lightly doughy yeast; that doesn't suit the style at all.

Subpar depth of flavour. Average duration and intensity of flavour.

Some alcohol presence does manifest.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Overcarbonated. A bit too thick. Body isn't ideal. Suits the flavour profile in a general sense, but doesn't come across as custom-tailored to it by any means; there's not a marriage of texture to taste here.

Not oily, hot, boozy, harsh, or gushed.

Dr: Drinkable for the decently-hidden ABV. I wouldn't get it again, especially at this price point. It's more of a German Lager-meets-IPA than a true IPA. Pretty average overall; nothing to write home about - certainly not unique or special. Another mediocre brew from Stone. I wouldn't recommend it to friends. I'll kill this bomber without issue. I can't say I'm disappointed; this is the level of quality I usually expect from Stone. The whole "new experimental German hop" thing is a nice gimmick, and I expect it'll help this beer sell quite well. Stone's marketing is incredible; I just wish their beers were too.

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3.83/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Verging on golden, the liquid displays an amber hue; the cap was a couple of inches high and the lacing was adequate

Smell: The German hops exude a grassy aroma with hints of American citrus; underneath are bready malts supporting the hop bill

Taste: Bready malts building in sweetness with the hops bringing both grassy and tropical fruit flavors in the middle; increasingly bitter through the finish, though the malty sweetness lingers in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body (slightly sticky) with moderate carbonation and some warmth in the gullet

Overall: Like many Stone beers, this one has that sticky aspect delivered by the malts; interesting difference in the hop bill, but I would much prefer a dryer, lower ABV version of the same beer

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17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA from Stone Brewing
3.94 out of 5 based on 1,800 ratings.
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