Stochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPA | Stone Brewing

Stochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPAStochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPA
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Stochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPAStochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPA
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
First Release: February 2014
India pale ales harness the inherent flavor characteristics of hops to bring forward familiar flavors of pine, resin, spice, and citrus. In some cases, those botanicals are so potent, they exactly mirror specific edibles. Such is the case with Centennial hops, which hail from the Great Northwest and come across on the palate like a mouthful of citrus fruit. That sensation is amplified with this, the first beer introduced via the Stochasticity Project–a double IPA brewed with Centennial, Chinook and Magnum hops as well as an immense dosing of fresh grapefruit peel. The result is over-the-top bittersweet grapefruit intensity that is at once refreshing and bracing in its citrusy bitterness.

Added by Sweffin on 08-23-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
293
Ratings:
1,963
Liked:
1,649
Avg:
3.97/5
pDev:
11.08%
Alströms:
4.12
 
 
Wants:
78
Gots:
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Trade:
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look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled 1/23/14.

Pours a clear honey orange with a foamy orange-tan head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, citrus fruit, citrus zest, grapefruit juice, and herbal hop aromas. Taste is much the same with citrus zest and slight herbal hop flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that has a solid grapefruit presence all around, but it's a bit stronger in the flavor.

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3.96/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

very cool beer, thinly veiled as something other than stone brewing, but thats cool. love the idea here, huge grapefruit hop buff, so this is right in my wheelhouse. i thought the execution overall was a little better than okay, but not as good as it could have been, or was in my head. a clearing orangey color, well carbonated with a bold white head that lasts. a nose as hoppy as it is grapefruity, plenty of bitterness, but some pale or maris otter malt backbone too. the flavor starts like a robust ipa, balancing grain and heavy handed hop additions wight he woodiness of centennial and the columbus citrus profile. the grapefruit waits until the end to show up, but it comes on strong. its all rind, not flesh so much, i get that bitter white pithy flavor, which is a really nice compliment to the hops, they both sort of play off each other, getting ever more bitter. the finish is forever, citrusy bitterness without the accompanying acidity. i wanted a little more fruitiness to this, and a little more sessionability. with all the bitterness and alcohol strength and malt body, its a very slow sipper for me, and when i was thinking of an all day style ipa with refreshing grapefruit, this is a little odd, but i love the idea, and maybe would like to see a series of these, one with flesh, one with ruby red fruit, one with pils malt, one around 4% abv… it would be a cool project. glad i got to try this beer, but i probably wouldn't buy it again.

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look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: The beer is slightly hazy amber yellow in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a quarter finger high white head that quickly died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of grapefruit and grapefruit peels are present in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste has flavors of grapefruit citrus from the hops but there almost seems to be nearly an equal amount of grapefruit zest, the latter of which stands out in the finish. There is a moderate to high amount of bitterness and this persists through the finish. Only slight traces of alcohol are perceptible.
M: It feels medium-bodied and crisp on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: As advertised, the aromas and flavors of this beer are all about grapefruit, although the addition of grapefruit peel seems to mellow things out about and not make this as tangy as you would expect.

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4.13/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

With the always-arrogant hop dominance front and center, this special version of Ruination kicks those natural IPA flavors of grapefruit into hyper warp with actual citrus additions.

Pouring the steadfast hues of golden and amber, the ale carries a surprisingly filtered haze that strips any diffusion from the beer's appearance. It simply gleams in the glass and shows off its streaming carbonation brilliantly. Its ivory tinted lather builds on top with strong and long-lasting retention, lacing the glass beautifully as the ale fades.

Citrus aromas are backed with caramel for a perfectly imbalanced scent. The common focus on grapefruit is exacerbated by more prominent citrus character as the actual grapefruit pith, peel, juice and ribs all add as much of a leafy verbena-type character as the hops do. With just enough malt character to give a slim graham cracker note, the beer's hop dominance is evident.

Then to taste, much of the same transpires. High citrus character is of all things pink and white grapefruit- fully equipped with rinds, pulp and tangy fruit juice. The hops easily dominate the taste even as caramel and graham cracker rise first and further support the hops and fruit additions afterwards. Finishing with a leafy, stemmy sassafras herbal complexity, the hop bitterness and fruit acidity provides earthy taste to boot.

Medium-light on the palate, any residual sweetness is short lived as the malts simply dissolve off of the early palate. Its malty-dryness props up the hops as the intensifying bitterness introduces an acidic pang and hides its vegetative astringency well. Deeply resinous and spicy warmth close the session with high level of refreshment.

In theory, if the beer already tastes like grapefruit, then lets push that even higher by adding actual grapefruits to the beer, relying on the hop's "bigness" becomes its own complexity. But I would prefer richer taste by adding a different fruit to the mix- oranges, lemons, apricots would not only intensify the fruit character but give it greater variety as well.

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2.55/5  rDev -35.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.75

The name is indeed "Stochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPA," not "Stochast...India Pale Ale." So props so whomever added this correctly. Bottled 01/29/illegible. (I assume 01/29/14). 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with appealing label print and unbranded black pry-off pressure cap acquired at me local H-E-B grocery a couple hours ago and served into a Pinthouse Pizza conical pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average given the brewery. Reviewed as an IPA since the label and description clearly identify it as such.

Served cold - at fridge temp. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a three finger wide head of very pale khaki colour. Okay creaminess, thickness, and frothiness. Okay complexion and consistency. Head retention is good - about 7-8 minutes. Leaves spotty inconsistent lacing on the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body colour is a transparent translucent copper of very good clarity and average vibrance. Clean; there's no visible yeast sediment or anything. Appears well-carbonated.

Overall, this is predictable standard fare for an IPA. Far from unique or special.

Sm: Soapy - I think this spent too long in primary. Bubblegum. Fresh citrus peel. Grapefruit. Faint pine. Floral hops. Fruity. Fairly resinous, but not real oily or nectary (much to my disappointment). The fresh citrus peel notes are a definite highlight for me personally, but the unwelcome bubblegum seems to drown the finer notes out. Maltwise, it's got a sweet bready undertone with plenty of pale malts and caramalts. Surprisingly, if anything it seems too sweet, not too bitter; did Stone brew this? I'm shocked they seem to have brewed an IPA without unnecessarily overaggressive hop bitterness.

Overall, this is a fairly pleasant clean aroma of mild strength, though it does seem too sweet and the bubblegum is unappealing.

No yeast character or alcohol is detectable.

Mf/T: Okay, right up front it's obvious this is too dry and pithy. It also comes off a bit stale and rough - which is disastrous for an IPA. Wow, this mouthfeel is poorly executed. Overcarbonated, soapy, and medium bodied. Slightly oily. A biteen coarse. Horrid presence on the palate. This is a poor texture for a beer in this style. I'd almost prefer a watery beer to this. Ugh. It just scrapes the tongue.

Not gushed, hot, boozy, harsh, or astringent. There is some tolerable alcohol warmth.

Soapy detergent dominates the flavour profile; this definitely spent way too long in primary. The backbone of the beer is a weak pale malt/caramalt core. I pick up on faint hints of graham cracker as well. Once you get past the soapiness, you're confronted with poorly integrated bubblegum tones. The pleasant citrus peel from the aroma becomes a bitter raw nightmare in the taste, and the grapefruit character is poorly executed. It doesn't quite have the bite of most grapefruit-based IPAs, but it has all of the pithy rindy bitterness. As a result, this flavour profile is soapy and off-putting throughout, but too sweet and bready up front and too bitter on the backend. Obviously, the imbalance is extreme. As it warms, I pick up on that stale orange juice note I always despise in IPAs - a note which lingers on the aftertaste along with the pithy bitterness. Ugh.

No yeast character comes through.

Lacks subtlety, complexity, intricacy, and nuance. The build lacks cohesion. Not a gestalt flavour profile by any means. Below average depth and duration of flavour. Average intensity of flavour. I'm having trouble liking this.

If the off notes don't get to you, the wretched imbalance will. I applaud the experimentation, but frankly this shouldn't have made it to market.

Dr: I swear I approach my reviews of Stone's beers with an open mind, but it sometimes seems like their hop choices and approach to brewing IPAs is just diametrically opposed to my personal tastes. This is absolutely not a beer I'd recommend to friends and not a beer I'd consider buying again. I'll finish this bottle without too much trouble - it's surprisingly drinkable in spite of its many flaws - but boy is this a sad attempt at an IPA. It's the kind of failure at brewing an IPA only Stone (and Green Flash) is (are) capable of. To all those who love this, I wish I was one of you. But unfortunately it's really not doing it for me. Not Stone's finest work, but then it's not a collaboration beer.

Surprisingly, it does get better (less bad?) as it warms. The bitterness becomes less obnoxious and the stale orange juice note picks up a little.

I'm surprised Stone has gone with this sneaky labeling approach. "Koochenvagner's Brewing Co" indeed. I tend to view Stone as a marketing company that happens to manufacture beer, but this marketing decision is somewhat confounding.

Low C-

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3.87/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with an impressive head; nice retention and a significant amount of lacing

Smell: Citric and bitter, with a pithy grapefruit character

Taste: A bit of graham cracker, up front, and then there is a bitter assault on the taste buds; this is not a floral, citrusy hop blast but a pithy, aspirin-like bitterness; just a vague smidgen of the malt lingers into the dry, bitter finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: This is quite a bitter experience and just what I would have anticipated from Stone, although the malt balance in many of their beers is missing from this one; not really the kind of hop profile I enjoy but one that a fan of really bitter beers might find appealing

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look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 1/23/2014. Pours fairly crystal clear golden orange color with a 2 finger fairly dense white head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of big grapefruit peel, orange zest, tangerine, pineapple, lemon zest, citrus rind, floral, grass, pine, light caramel, bread, and floral/grassy earthiness. Incredible aromas with huge citrus/floral hop and citrus peel aromas, with light-moderate malt balance; and great strength. Taste of big grapefruit peel, tangerine, pineapple, orange zest, lemon zest, citrus rind, pine, floral, grass, light caramel, bread, and floral/grassy earthiness. Good amount of floral/pine bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of grapefruit peel, tangerine, pineapple, orange/lemon zest, citrus rind, pine, floral, grass, light caramel, and floral/grassy earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice balance and complexity of bright citrus/floral hops with grapefruit peel, and light malt balance; with a crisp malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a smooth, crisp, and moderately sticky mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is an awesome DIPA. All around great complexity of citrus/floral hop and grapefruit peel flavors, with light-moderate malt balance; and very smooth and crisp to sip on for the ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Stochasticity Project Grapefruit Slam IPA from Stone Brewing
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