10 Barrel / Blue Jacket / Stone - Suede Imperial Porter | Stone Brewing

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10 Barrel / Blue Jacket / Stone - Suede Imperial Porter10 Barrel / Blue Jacket / Stone - Suede Imperial Porter
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: American Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.60%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
When Meagan Parisi and Stone brewmaster Mitch Steele decided to collaborate, it was essential that they tap a special individual to complete their triad of fermentation domination, and they found just that in Tonya Cornett, the brewmaster at Bend, Oregon's 10 Barrel Brewing Company. Together, they decided on a sturdy yet velvety base of imperial porter and developed a plan to celebrate the bounty of the environs in which it was produced by harvesting avocado honey, jasmine and calendula flowers (some from our very own Stone Farms) and infusing them into the beer to create something complex and uniquely Southern Californian. Consider it craft cross-pollination at its finest.

Added by azdback on 09-27-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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1,126
Reviews:
196
Avg:
3.82
pDev:
11.52%
 
 
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 9/13/13.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson-brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, cocoa, honey, fruit, and floral aromas. Taste is much the same with cocoa and floral flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roasty bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that starts smelling better as it warms up but there is something in this one that burns the back of my throat after each sip.

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look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

all stone collaborations are highly anticipated in my book. my lady loved herbal healing, and calendula flowers are huge for that, so we were both excited to decant this. rich black color with a short lived inch or so of light mocha foam. not much light passing through, but not super dense either. slightly bitter on the nose, as most flowers are, extracts at least, and it exacerbates the bitter roast on the barley here. not as complex as I would have liked on first sip, but trust me, let this beer warm up, the honey and the floral stuff really shine at room temperature, and the alcohol never gets hot. perhaps the coolest part of this beer is that the other two head brewers aside from stone are female. you don't see enough of that, so huge props to that operation going on. also the calendula really comes to life as it warms, and im left very satisfied, although this comes across just a touch thin for an imperial porter. not as suede soft in my mouth as the label suggests, but still relatively velvety as they go. a good beer overall, and I will keep buying these stone collaborations because they are always do damn thoughtful!

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look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

On-tap at Bunkers Sports Bar & Grill, Vandalia, OH

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a quarter finger high tan head that died down and left a collar around the edge of the glass and some lacing on the surface.
S: Light aromas of chocolate malts and cocoa are present in the nose.
T: The taste follows the smell but is more complex with notes of jasmine and flowers as well was hints of roasted malts.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little smooth on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer tastes strong and complex for the style but hides its alcohol very well.

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look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

When I think of "suede", I think of dark, smoothness. I think of mocha-rich attributed and a silky earthiness. I think of a rugged sense to a quality and enduring quality. ...and I think I get all that with this ale!

As the dark ale pours, it settles into the glass with a slow release of foam and froth. Rising above is a mocha-stained head that caps the beer with a stronghold presence. Alluring to the eye, its retention is strong and its lace is blanketing.

Bold Porter-like aroma are all about coffee, chocolate, and nuts but without venturing into the world of char. With a hearty sweet scent, there's some chocolate and cream notes that infiltrate the dark grain. With no real descerable notes of honey or spice, there is a tinge of something either fruity or floral.

Its taste certainly qualifies as Porter, but all that chocolate, coffee and heavily toasted malt hits the tongue with a strong presence but yet a balance that never allows any one taste to command the other. Its chocolaty tone introduces the flora-fruity taste of honeysuckle and lavender. Somewhat grape-like underneath, its taste is of whipping cream and tangy yogurt. But none of that overshadows its heavy toast and chocolate tones that shy just away from Stout-like proportions.

In texture, the beer's strong carbonation promotes a dry almost-roasted character at first. But as the bubbles start to subside, the beer's malty structures soon reel in a more cream-focused and sweeter tone. Smoothening out to something akin to velvet and silk, the beer's taste-meets-texture happens better in the middle palate than in the first or final taste. As the beer concludes, it favors roast-type bitterness- somewhat of french press espresso and a dry alcohol echo.

I think that the name of this collaboration ale is spot-on! Its rugged character of alcohol and dark grains speak to a leather-type of refinement. But its smooth and tempered nature is reminiscent of silk and ribbon. But in the end, when I hear "suede" I want to taste more lushness, more sultry, more savory. I wan it to absolutely melt my palate, and this beer only satisfies it.

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3.17/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with intricate printed-on label art and branded pry-off pressure cap acquired for $7.99 USD at a local Austin, TX bottle shop and served into an Avery stem-tulip in me gaff. Reviewed live. 2013 vintage. Expectations are above average. 9.6% ABV confirmed. Bottled 09/13/13.

Served cold - straight from me fridge - and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a one finger wide head of appealing khaki colour. Good soft complexion and smooth consistency. Good thickness. Nice creaminess. Has a nice even coating of lacing as the head recedes. Head retention is above average - about 3 minutes - which isn't too shabby at 9.60% ABV.

Body colour is a predictable opaque solid black. Pretty dark, but not a jet black. No yeast particles are visible.

Overall, it's exactly what you'd expect an imperial porter to look like, and doesn't offer anything unique or special. There are no egregious flaws. I'm looking forward to trying it; the head is certainly above average.

Sm: Honey and rum/sugarcane notes are the first thing I pick up, and run a bit roughly against the floral and nectary notes; they don't quite clash, but they're not working well together. Vanillicin. Dark malts. Chocolate malt. Some burnt notes. Cocoa. Cream. Some pleasant cocoa notes (which are unfortunately restrained). Seems too sweet and imbalanced overall.

I don't pretend to be able to pick out avocado, jasmine, or calendula - that shit is well outside my purview. But there is something bolstering the sweetness that I know I haven't found in other imperial porters. Unique perhaps, but not beneficial.

A mild strength aroma which is pleasant and inoffensive, but not inviting or alive. No yeast character comes through, nor do any hop notes. Some alcohol presence.

T/Mf: The artificiality of the vanillicin on both the open and finish is the first thing I notice, which immediately betrays the beer's overall lack of authenticity. That said, the faux-vanilla sweetness up front is actually pretty pleasant. I just wish it wasn't quite as sweet in the second act and climax. The build is pretty much what you'd expect for a porter, with plenty of dark malts, chocolate malts, and hints of burnt character. But the presence of honey is a departure from your standard imperial porter, and lends the build a guiding nectary sticky sweetness.

I pick up the flowers (and perhaps some floral hop character) only on the climax and in the third act, but again I won't pretend I can pick out jasmine or the gimmicky flower Stone used in this. The floral/honey/other gimmicky notes don't really aid the imperial porter build in any obvious way. This certainly isn't a gestalt build, and Stone seems to think adding notes is always a good idea, regardless of their characteristics or potential to help (or hurt) a beer. As a result, the flavour profile is a bit messier than it needs to be and lacks the refined considered balance of the best beers in the style.

I get notes of sassafras/cola, a hint of rum-soaked cherry, unwelcome grape, and cream. A brief kiss of licorice/fennel on the climax. The chocolate here lacks depth. There're none of the more difficult to execute notes of the best imperial porters: don't look for coffee, char, roasted barley, or oatmeal here.

Below average depth of flavour. Average duration and intensity of flavour. Okay amplitude; the flavours don't really blend seamlessly together but don't ring distinct either.

As much as they add unnecessary notes, it doesn't come off all that complex in the end, and lacks both intricacy and nuance. Subtlety has never been Stone's strong suit, and there's no exception here. It's a cohesive flavour profile and has some likable elements.
Too bitter on the finish.

No yeast character or alcohol comes through. There are no egregious off-flavours.

Mf: Silky, velvety, smooth, and wet. Some coarsening/drying roasted barley would really help. Overcarbonated. Sticky. Chewy. Has an artificial, unnatural presence on the palate. Doesn't complement the flavour profile per se, but it suits it in a general sense. It doesn't oppose it, anyway. Too thick and imposing. Okay body; it's a bit too full. Too acidic.

Not crisp, oily, astringent, harsh, rough, boozy, hot, or gushed.

Dr: Poorly priced - at least here in Texas - for the quality. I'd pick it up at $4.00. Certainly drinkable; I'll easily kill the bomber alone. This isn't Stone's best collaboration beer, but it isn't their worst either. Aging 1-3 years would likely help it as the sweetness would hopefully come down. I wouldn't get this again or recommend it to friends.

I liked the dark fruit notes (except for the grape).

Stone et al can keep throwing in their gimmicky ingredients, but at the end of the day it's the basics that they need to work on.

C+

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look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a dark chocolate color capped by a frothy mocha head; plenty of lacing hangs around the glass

Smell: Slightly burnt toast, dark chocolate and flowers; I don't know about Calendula but I can certainly pick out the jasmine

Taste: Dark chocolate and honey, with the floral tones building in the mid-palate; sweetness through the finish

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with moderate carbonation

Overall: I like the smell of this beer better than the taste but I have some admiration for the concept; not a ton, but some

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