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Dark Horse Too Cream StoutDark Horse Too Cream Stout

Brewed by:
Dark Horse Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Winter

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Photo of Immortale25
4.02/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Bottleneck says 303-13.

A- Pours an impenetrable black color with a 1/4 inch brown head that immediately vanishes leaving a thick ring around the edge of the glass and a small center patch of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a jagged ring behind.

S- Lots of milk chocolaty goodness with some caramel and vanilla thrown in for good measure. A little nutty too.

T- Smells a lot better than it tastes as there's a brush of roast and then an abrupt metallic flavor that kind of kills the party. Alcohol is decently well-hidden. The roast creeps in more and more with each sip bringing notes of dark chocolate. Minimal sweetness.

M- Thick, robust, medium-low carbonation and a full body. Once the sediment in the bottle retained from the initial pour (and boy there was a lot of it) is introduced, the mouthfeel becomes more creamy.

O- I wish this beer had more elements of the aroma in the flavor as it smells wonderful but the taste leaves a bit to be desired. Still it's drinkable enough and there's nothing necessarily wrong with it. Just feel like it could be so much better.

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Photo of fscottkey
3.53/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Oily black with no light coming trough. The head is massive - it almost overfilled my glass. It is easily 2 1/2 fingers of dense tan foam.

S: Sweet and roasted malts - chocolate and vanilla. Very pleasant combination of smells.

T: I get a lot of smoke. It is not bad - I just wasn't expecting it based on the nose or the description. There is subtle sweetness and hints of bitter coffee.

M: A little thin and less coating that expected. No noticeable carbonation.

O: Based on the Appearance and Nose I expected big things. The taste was way off the nose - and not really in a good way. I am desperately sipping and hoping for hints of chocolate and more coffee - but I am just getting smoke. There are other stouts in this series from Dark Horse - I have them and will try them. I *think* there is one that is a smoked porter - I can't imagine something smokier than this!

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Photo of mfnmbvp
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle, with no apparent bottled on date present. My second of the five winter stouts from Dark Horse Brewing Co. Picked up a single bottle of this from the local beer store.

Poured into a clear balloon snifter.

A - Pours an inky jet black colored body with about a finger of dark mocha head. Some spotty mocha lacing, but none really sticks. Looks pretty nice.

S - Smell is comprised of milk chocolate, cream / lactose, coffee bean roastiness, cookie dough / fudgey, & mild dark fruit presence. Maybe a hint of spicing. A pleasant, yet average aroma.

T - Taste follows the aroma - milk chocolate, cream / lactose, dark coffee bean roast / bitterness, mild indistinct dark fruitiness, and some hints of metallics on the finish.

M - The feel is silky smooth, and creamy. Medium bodied with good roasty bitterness lingering on the palate.

Overall, a nice example of the style, but it lies somewhere in the middle of the pack. Lightly warming with a moderate 7.50% abv. Well worth having, and I look forward to trying the others.

Dark Horse Too Cream Stout ---3.5/5

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.71/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle purchased at AJ's Beer Warehouse in Henrietta, NY.

Pours out a dark, nearly pitch black, with a half inch head, and not much lacing.

Smells like lactose, vanilla, coffee, and roasted malt.

The taste is similar. Pretty smooth, but slightly simple. Some roasted malt flavor is smoothed over by milk stout-y lactose flavors. A little bit of chocolate and coffee flavors, but they are pretty weak.

Medium bodied, but slightly thin. Creamy, smooth, slick mouthfeel. Low carbonation.

Of the "numbers stouts" in this series that I've had (all but Fore), this ranks #3, behind Tres Blueberry and Plead the 5th, and slightly better than One Oatmeal.

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Photo of barczar
4.06/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours a used motor oil brown/black with a frothy, lingering mocha head.

Milk chocolate, toasted malt, deeply roasted malt, and lactose form the aroma. Smells very sweet. Chocolate dominates.

Chocolate carries through in the flavor, dominating throughout, initially. The finish is fairly roasty, a little bitter, and just a touch acrid. Deeply toasted nuts surface in the aftertaste. There’s an underlying dark fruit character that surfaces initially, tart cherries, which bows quickly to the roast malt backbone. Roast and chocolate battle back and forth.

Body is full, rich, and creamy, with modest carbonation, and surprisingly well-hidden alcohol warmth.

Not overly bitter or roasty, with a great chocolate presence. The tinge of tartness adds complexity to break the monotony of the chocolate. Very rich malt character.

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Photo of HotHabanero
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottled. Pours pitch black with an average sized, creamy head. Aroma of slightly roasted malt and note of chocolate, light coffee and vanilla. Sweet flavor that ends up quite dry with notes of malt bitterness. Medium bodied, oily to creamy texture and soft carbonation. An excellent stout.

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Photo of CloudStrife
3.94/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled November 5, 2013.

A: Pours a dark brown appearing black in the glass with minimal slightly tan head on top. Just a bit of head remains in the middle while the rest dissipates or fleets to the edges. Some spots of lacing on the glass.

S: Robust roasted malt is the first thing I think of when I take a whiff of this beer. Hints of sweetness such as molasses or toffee. Mild coffee and chocolate. A smokiness comes out more as it warms up.

T: As with the aroma there is loads of malt in the flavor. Big roasty flavor hits you as soon as you take a sip. It lingers well into the aftertaste. The milk stout qualities come through and really smooth things out. Alcohol is well hidden.

M: Smooth and creamy body with low carbonation. Pretty easy drinking especially considering the ABV.

Overall its a very enjoyable beer that is perfect for the winter months. Big roasty quality will leave you wanting to sip this one all night.

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Photo of SerialTicker
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottled October 3rd 2013 and poured March 18th 2014. Into a shaker pint, unfortunately. $2.19 for a single bottle.

Appearance: Black with a head that fizzes away quickly and loudly -- sounds like pop. All that remains is what looks like black water with only a few carbonation bubbles rising from the bottom.

Smell: Hm. Nice. Roasty for sure, but sweetness that creates a bit of a caramel, milk chocolate, and vanilla character. A sweet smelling roast is the primary smell, with the other notes being a bit underlied.

Taste/feel: Definitely a solid beer. Doesn't strike me as being too much different than One Oatmeal stout, just that this one has a bit more "oomph", and a less mouthfeel.. they really are both quite similar beers. The carbonation is pretty mild, but prickly, on this beer, and the texture is a bit thin. The flavor is unlike the smell, as it's just a lot of coffee flavored roastiness, with a subtle vanilla sweetness. As it warms, more sweetness comes through along with... dark fruits? It seems out of place in a cream stout. I do like that it adds another dimension, but it's not what I look for in the style.

A very good cream stout, but not the best I've had. It looks ugly in the glass, but it has a pleasing aroma, and a pretty good flavor. The mouthfeel is a bit of a bummer, but Too remains enjoyable regardless. I prefer One to Too just because it is a bit more drinkable, with a nicer feel on it.

Quick Edit: I recommend getting the sediment in the bottle, as it thickens up the brew considerably and really pushes it over the top. After doing that, it turned a very good beer into a great one. You gotta get that all in the bottle.

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Photo of Brenden
4.22/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

This is a good-looking stout, decently thick without appearing to be overbearing, a moderate viscosity to it. It has a touch of a red sheen in a very dark brown body. The head, medium brown, forms a sturdy crown roughly a finger tall that sits stubbornly for the duration and leaves a mix of ringing, patching, netting and spotting.
A rich malts backbone provides plenty of roast with a bit of creamy sweetness, some coffee and cocoa particular to a big stout of the dark and dark roast varieties. A whiff of dark fruits eases into the end.
Lots of roast and char manages to avoid astringency. The only thing I'd ask for is a touch more sweetness (there's a little) and a less subtle lactose addition. As such, it's a great stout.
It's thick and rich with a moderate viscosity that gives great body and smoothness without sitting like a brick. There's just the slightest crispness, enough to keep it lively and interesting, and the smoothness pulls even into the roasty finish.

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Photo of BradC
4.39/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours jet black with a tan head

Smells of roasted grain, dark toasted coffee and burnt chocolate.

Tastes of burnt coffee, roasted grains and a hint of chocolate, firm hop bitterest finish. Don't get much sweetness as in other sweet stouts. Sweetness emerges a little as it warms, but not much.

A good amount of carbonation gives your tongue a tingle when it hits your mouth nag brings out more so the bitterness.

Overall, a great stout, I like them dark and roasty and this one delivers.

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Photo of papat444
3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle, bottled 297-13 (Oct. 24, 2013).

One of the blackest pours i've seen, viscous and thick. Bubbly dark brown body with average retention. Wisps of creamy coffee fill the air as well as dark chocolate and some bitter-sweet variety as well. Strong oatmeal taste, chocolate upfront transforms into smooth, creamy coffee. Medium bodied and overall a nice stout.

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Photo of KFBR392
3.31/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours dark brown with a medium to thick body. A rich head of about a finger on the pour with a solid brown color. Average to above average active carbonation in the glass while drinking.

Smell: Big front of sweet dairy and silky, milky chocolate. The malt presence is also very smooth with just mild hints of roasted malt. Well balanced, the creaminess is very strong and potent but is kept in check.

Taste: The front is a funky, oddly bitter chocolate. Some creamy tones of vanilla and toffee pop up during the body but are quickly replaced by more chalky and grainy malt and chocolate. Finish is lingering bitterness and more dry malt.

Mouthfeel: Grainy, with a funky bitterness makes this brew less then desirable.

Overall: Really loved the look and aroma that this one brought, but was very disappointed once I began to drink it. Chocolate flavors are off, dairy tones are oddly sweet and bitter.

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Photo of motownfreak15
4.37/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

You can't go wrong with this beer. Perfect for smoking a pipe and reading Turgenev while feeling like a boss, dark, thick head when I poured it into a glass, and the taste was incredible. Chocolates but not overpowering. You could smell the creaminess quite liberally, if that makes sense. Heartily recommended.

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Photo of Brandegee
3.97/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pour into wide-mouthed tulip goblet...
A: Inky black pour with healthy dark-brown head that quickly fades away to a subtle ring. Very similar appearance to DH's One Oatmeal Stout (recipe tweak?).
S: Yum. Lots of toffee and candy notes on this one. It smells like goat's milk caramel tastes.
T: This is an aggressively sweetened stout, and it's delicious at first (almost a creme brulee style), but wears a little thin at the back of the palate. Finishes as a dry stout. This beer doesn't betray as many off notes as the Oatmeal, but it doesn't have a huge amount of depth either.
M: A little too much carbonation mars an otherwise silky, rich, thick texture.
O: A big improvement over One Oatmeal; a nice representative of the cream stout style. But's almost too sweet for my liking.

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Photo of krustster
4.62/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Uuaahh god man. Pure black, not even a little brown or red, totally opaque, and this is "only" a normal stout (not imperial)! Fairly dark tan, creamy head that sticks around for a good amount of time, lots of lacing, looks very oily and viscous. To be frank, this is one of the best looking stouts I've seen in any category.

Smell: Rich dark chocolate, coffee and "roast", and licorice. There's something unique that sticks out here and I believe it is in fact the licorice. Oddly enough, it smells.... well, creamy. Is that possible?

Taste is some more of that, but sweeter. Not highly sweet, but a definite semi-sweet chocolate chip type of thing, with some black coffee, some of the lactose type of sweetness, definite licorice coming through. Actually the more that I drink of this, the more it just tastes like a straight chocolate bar to me. Maybe a Hershey's Special Dark bar. Dark, but still sweet and incredible. I can see why some people aren't too crazy about this one, but it totally hits the spot for me. With each bottle I've consumed, I have grown to like the taste more. There's just something about it... the way the "roast" is so upfront, but without any real bitterness, and balanced out by the sweet taste, it draws me in.

The true power of this beer is the creamy, sticky, viscous mouth feel. It really is thicker than many imperial stouts I've had, and the "cream" aspect (sticky lactose feel, dunno if it even has lactose but it leaves that milky feeling in the back of my throat) adds even more thickness to the already pleasantly bloated body. And at "only" 7.5% that is really saying something. And the carbonation is just high enough that it doesn't die out by the end of your drink, but never surpasses the level of "creamy on the tongue".

Overall, the incredible mouthfeel, especially for a non-imperial stout, elevates this already delicious brew to a level beyond that of an ordinary stout. Bell's Double Cream was quite tasty but this one leaves it in the dust, and is much easier to find to boot. Awesome beer at a bargain price to boot!!

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Photo of cwguy5
4.26/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

poured completely black with no light coming through - darker than some imp stouts. super rich, dark cinnamon two-finger head that looked almost like nitro - faded slowly to a thin cap.

nose is of light brown sugar, bread, sweet malt, touch of smoke in background

taste is a little more complex than the nose. there are plenty of sweet and dark malts along with some creamy oatmeal/almond sweetness but there is a bit more char on the palate. the char and the light bitterness rounds out the flavors nicely along.

medium-bodied with a very smooth mouthfeel. carbonation is plentiful but extremely fine and foamy in a good way. mild bitter aftertaste with a sweet, malty linger.

really good beer if not the creamiest of the style.

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Photo of Stevedore
3.71/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, 303-13 Julian date. Poured into a Kuhnhenn goblet today, 12/29/2013. Second of the Dark Horse stouts.

Pours a very dark black body, oily but not particularly viscous, with a nice two finger dark mocha head. Similar to One Oatmeal. Not much lacing, and retention is not quite all that- leaves a thick collar and a thin film.

Smells phenomenal. Rich, intense and roasty. Lots of roast malts, coffee, espresso. Not complex, but very rich and roasty. No cream, not much in way of the dark fruits as in One Oatmeal.

Flavour profile is mostly a roast malts with some coffee and a bit of bitter dark chocolate. I don't get much cream, but on the back-end, there is a funny taste that makes me think I'm drinking room temperature milk.. which isn't exactly a tasty feeling. It's bittersweet, almost. There is a wateriness in the middle with a nice rich roastiness in the beginning and a bitter coffee and chocolate back end, but I cannot help but feel there is something missing in the middle. Not bad by any means, but this omission is pretty obvious to me.

A bit on the thinner side of medium, very good carbonation does help make up for this a bit. Watery, not particularly substantial though. Aftertaste is a bitter coffee mixed in with a little bit of sweet chocolates; it doesn't come together quite that well actually. Not the most well-executed stout.

Solid stout offering, I prefer One Oatmeal to this. It's missing something in the middle, perhaps some lactose sweetness of which I did not get, and its a bit watery. If the Cream aspect was talking about lactose, I did not get much of it. If it was referring to a Cream mouthfeel, it's halfway there but it is not anything like Bell's Double Cream Stout. An interesting stout to try, but I won't be getting this one again.

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Photo of mc4z
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Pours a pitch black color with a cinnamon colored head. The head dissipates quickly and there is minimal lacing. The nose is roasty with hints of chocolate, coffee, and cream. The taste is mostly roasted malt with chocolate and coffee flavors being the most dominant. There is a subdued sweetness and a lingering hop bitterness that I did not expect. The mouthfeel is smooth and this is quite drinkable for the style. Overall I like this beer but I expected it to be a good bit sweeter.

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Photo of CMUbrew
3.84/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: Black color and dark brown head that doesn't hang around long. Pretty typical.

S: Pretty big darkly roasted malt aroma. Slight coffee.

T: Roasted malt, very dark and bold. Sweet edge that is mostly pushed out by the strong roast.

M: Pretty smooth and full.

O: A solid stout from Dark Horse, definitely better than One from the stout line.

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Photo of Pencible
4.11/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured an opaque black with moderate dark tan head. (Same beautiful look as One.)
S: It smelled like bittersweet mocha and cream.
T: It tasted like rich dark chocolate and roasted coffee, with some cream. It had a clean bittersweet aftertaste.
M: It was fairly thick with moderate carbonation. Nice big body.
D: This was a better stout than One, with nice scent and taste and body. The finish was smoother too, so it was easy to drink. Still nothing special, but more enjoyable to try.

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Photo of alucardswordlol
4.09/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured this beer out a bottle into a glass.

Appearance - Dark brown with a caramel head that retains quite well.

Smell - Light chocolate and coffee aromas.

Taste - Solid amount of coffee up front, then

Mouthfeel - G

Overall - Great cream stout, up there with Bells double.

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Photo of hopsolutely
3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle picked up recently in Michigan. Pours a silky, oily black with a coffee coloured head that disappears more quickly than I expected given its visual density. Beautiful aroma of both dark and milk chocolate plus roasted dark and chocolate malts. The whole chocolate spectrum, with vanilla and coffee tones lightly riding on the malts. The lactose and silky sweetness in more pronounced in the flavour, which is very suitable for the style but might be challenging to enjoy more than one in a sitting. Nice coffee and hop bitterness to the finish which has a pleasing bite and stops it from becoming cloying.

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Photo of falloutsnow
3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

From: Binny's, Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle, 2012 release
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Dark Horse's "Too" is a very good cream stout, with a subtle sweetness resting atop a fairly rich display of roasted malt, chocolate, coffee, vanilla, and brownie-like flavors. While I enjoyed this, I felt "One" had a richness and slight harshness that the addition of the lactose seemed to diminish a bit. I would seek this out again if I was not able to find "One."

Pours a 1.5cm tall head of dark tan to brown-colored foam, made up of small to medium-sized bubbles, creating a fairly dense looking mass of foam. Retention length is less than average, lasting less than a minute in a quick decline to a thin film of residual foam resting atop the body of the beer. Body is a dark brown to black color, light showing a slight amber-brown hue. Beer is opaque, no carbonation perceived.

Aroma is a bit mild, particularly when compared to the oatmeal stout in this series. Primarily of diffuse roasted malts with a bit higher sweetness than the oatmeal stout, with very subtle hints of charred toast, biscuit, brownie, and caramel. Not unpleasant, but not a particular standout, either.

The overall flavor of the beer is one of roasted malt with slight sweetness resting atop the dark chocolate and roasted coffee flavors. Front of palate is of roasted malt, dark chocolate, and roasted coffee beans, but with a moderate sweetness that simultaneously adds a new flavor, but smooths and lessens the others somewhat. Similarly, the mid-palate features roasted malts, dark chocolate, brownies, roasted coffee beans, cream, hints of vanilla, and a mild sweetness glazing over the top of these flavors. Back of palate features rosated malt, dark chocolate brownies, a bit of burnt biscuits, slight vanilla, and a continued sweetness across these flavors. Aftertaste is fairly sweet, combined with acrid roasted malt character and very dark chocolate, lends to a flavorful, if not overly complex lingering flavor.

Beer is medium bodied with medium-low levels of carbonation, which results in a maintains a gentle foaminess, substantial smoothness, moderate heaviness, and velvety creaminess, providing an excellent mouthfeel. Generally close to, but a bit lighter than Dark Horse's oatmeal stout. Closes dry, with mild stickiness on the palate and mild astringency from the roasted malts.

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Photo of ChrisKayler
4.31/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Glass: Duvel Tulip.

Appearance: Pours like a dark motor oil. A somewhat aggressive pour produced barely a half finger of brown head, which quickly dissipated. No lacing.

Smell: Roasted semi-dark chocolate, a bit of coffee, bread, the slightest bit of caramel. That lactose / cream / metallic scent is always present in the background. This smells very good!

Taste: Chocolate initially for a brief portion of a second, transitioning to metallic lactose bitterness, changing again to mellow creamy goodness. The aftertaste is back again to roasted malts and chocolate.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with medium carbonation. A tiny bit of syrupy sweetness is left on the tongue and lips. Wet finish.

Overall: My favorite milk stout to date. A really excellent, smooth, chocolate taste combined with the sweetness and slight metallic puckering of the lactose. I was surprised that I liked this one so much ... would definitely drink it again!

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Photo of mvanaskie13
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a sam adams custom glass, color is deep black, head is dark tan and thin but clings some to the glass in a ring.

Smell is a wonderful blend of chocolate, espresso, roasted malts hints of bitterness and a light lingering sweetness.

Taste is again a great blend of roasted malt, chocolate and espresso flavors, some light bitterness and a lingering, somewhat thick sweetness.

Mouthfeel, as indicated by the taste is a lingering sweetness throughout, but not cloying, enough bitterness to back this somewhat dense stout.

Overall, a very solid sweet/milk stout, great mix of chocolate, espresso and roast to create a wonderful tasting and smelling brew.

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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout from Dark Horse Brewing Company
3.89 out of 5 based on 1,135 ratings.
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