Black Damnation III - Black Mes | De Struise Brouwers

Black Damnation III - Black MesBlack Damnation III - Black Mes
266 Ratings
Black Damnation III - Black MesBlack Damnation III - Black Mes

Brewed by:
De Struise Brouwers

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Black Damnation III is yet another variation on Black Albert. 100% of Black Albert was used that matured for a while on Caol Ila barrels

Added by alcstradamus on 03-14-2010

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Photo of Arbitrator
1.55/5  rDev -62.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

On tap at The Trappist in Oakland. From memory a few hours ago. Sipped a bit out of t0rin0's glass.

A: Pours a pitch black body with dark mocha head. No retention.

S: Burnt rubber, stale coffee, charred oak, vanilla. It's not as harsh as the Mikkeller Black Hole, but the burning tire / electrical fire comparison was the first thing that came to mind. Unpleasant and off-putting. Some booze.

T: Same as the nose; it's not as much of a clashing, painful trainwreck as the Scotch Black Hole was, but the burning-tire peat contribution is hardly shy. Stale coffee shines through, as does smoke. With the oak it makes for a pretty charred effect in general. Immediate dislike.

M: Less smooth than the IV; it has a rubbery booze component that I don't care for. Otherwise fine.

D: Black Mess is aptly named. I honestly don't get why people think this beer is great. I thought it was awful. But then, I tend not to like peaty, burning-tire whiskeys, so maybe I was never the target market.

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Photo of Dbot
2.25/5  rDev -45.9%

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2.25/5  rDev -45.9%

Photo of BMMillsy
2.54/5  rDev -38.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.25

Bottle from the local shop out of nowhere. Popped this one with Beastmaster. A huge gusher from the start. Finally stopped and poured into mini snifters. Pitch black pour with a small dark brown head and no light showing through. Aroma is a combination of sour cherries, roasty chocolate, green apple, peat and scotch whiskey. Yeah, pretty sure it’s not supposed to be like this. Flavor follows with a good amount of peat and roasty chocolate, alongside some sour black cherry and sour apple flavors. Mouthfeel is bold and thick with low carbonation. This is really disappointing. Bottle was a hefty price to begin with at $43, but now that is a travesty. Afraid to pop my Damnation II now. Still drinkable I guess but not a big rich BA stout like one would expect.

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Photo of mothman
2.76/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Poured into darkness snifter.

Pours a finger of thick tan head. Decent retention with some splattered. Color is pretty black.

Aroma: It almost reminds me of the BA Black Hole series, but not as toxic. It must be the barrels I am smelling, because they give off a huge profile. Bit scotch whiskey flavor with some peat and char. Some oak and vanilla, and a touch of honey. I am having a hard time determining if I like it or not.

Tastes: Yep, this is pretty close to the BA Black Hole series, just not as extreme. Tons of peat, char, smoke, and ash. The scotch whiskey barrels show a lot with a significant amount of oak and alcohol. I get a touch of honey and vanilla, but too much gross covers it up. It has a lot of chocolate and roasted malts.

Mouthfeel: One of the better aspect of this beer. Smooth and creamy with a nice bubbly feel to it. A medium to full body with a decent amount of carbonation. Ends warm and boozy.

Overall, this isn't what I was expecting. Reminded me a lot of the BA Black Hole series (worth mentioning 3 times). It just isn't very drinkable. Big letdown.

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Photo of womencantsail
2.81/5  rDev -32.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at The Trappist

A: The pour seems to live up to the name of the beer and looks black in the glass with a small mocha colored head.

S: There's quite a bit of smoke and peat on the nose with plenty of roast to go with it. I don't get too much in terms of chocolate or coffee. Maybe some vanilla, but certainly whiskey and booze are evident. There's some rubber in there too.

T: Things don't change much on the palate. Lots of smoke and peat along with a slight rubber flavor. Pretty roasty with the whiskey being strong. There's a really distinct soap flavor to the beer which I don't find very appealing.

M: The body is medium, nothing really special for an imperial stout, with a low, smooth carbonation.

D: Not as good as the other beers in the Black Damnation series, not by a long shot.

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3/5  rDev -27.9%

Photo of Rifugium
3.01/5  rDev -27.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

First had: on tap at Farmers Cabinet, Philly, PA

Hmm. Looked fine enough: opaque black with a large, creamy, tan head that retained well and left some soapy lacing on the glass. Aroma was strangely faint, with distant scents of smokey malts and booze. Taste was unusually light, flavors of roasty malts, grainy alcohol, an underlying caramel sweetness, and an almost rubbery character like I was drinking out of a water balloon. Kind of lacking in the flavor department. Mouthfeel was a bit thin as well, almost watered down. Not too impressed by this one at all.

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Photo of mulder1010
3.06/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330 ML bottle

Thanks to Baggio for the bottle

A-- Poured black, no light penetrating the body. Big, massive dark brown head with tints of cinnamon on the sides. Three finger height at start that worked it's way to one finger and slowly to film. Good head retention and body shape. Very clean and left no lacing through drinking. Just quick running alcohol legs on the sides of the glass.

S-- Lots of soft notes. Dark chocolate, dark fruits, peat, and wood.

T-- Odd sour fruitiness to the start of this. thought a chocolate covered cherry soaked in brandy. Lots of fruitiness in the taste that quickly dripped off to chocolate, licorice, peat and wood.

M-- Very thin. Lots of brandy or rum soaked fruits. Ah, fruitcake and spice, with hints of char and ash. Low carbonation and medium feel with a lot of char, ash and stewed cherry finish to this.

O-- Easy to drink and well hidden alcohol but not sold on the brandy or rum covered cherry aspect of this. Loved one and II but this is different. I think my issue is more towards the Islay scotch than the beer.

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Photo of Gfunk720
3.18/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Consumed in my small tasting tulip in small amounts. Thanks to Shogo for this one.

A- Dark black with a deep cocoa colored foamy head. The head thins out, but retains a bit.

S- Smells sweet and chocolaty, with a touch of booze. Whiskey/Bourbon and oak notes. Slighly off though, and nothing special.

T- Chocolate and coffee mostly, some bourbon and malt. Slighly bitter and acidic, with a notes of peaty/oak. Not what I expected.

M- The bitterness is a bit off putting. It's has some good flavor, but the acidic coffee aspect of it is a bit much for me. The bitterness lingers in my mouth for minutes after taking a sip.

D- More of a sipper, doesn't taste like 13% but is just too acidic to drink quickly. This is one of the beers that just missed the mark for me. Black Albert did not take well to these additions.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.23/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to jrallen34 for this. Poured a thick black with a nice, fairly tall black head. Smells of roasted malt, smoke, and some peat. The taste has the same components, but for me the peat really stood out and completely dominated the other flavors, creating a one-dimensional beer. A bit overwhelming. Moderate body; somewhat dry. Not nearly as good as the other things I've had from De Struise. A bit of a disappointment.

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3.25/5  rDev -21.9%

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3.25/5  rDev -21.9%

Photo of kbutler1
3.26/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Poured into the classic Darkness tulip glass. Pours a really dark brown/black with a slight tan head. Pretty carbonated. Holy barrels Batman! This thing is just loaded with the whiskey barrel aroma, so much so, that it almost wipes out all other smells. Some tobacco and leather makes its way know in the nose as well. Earthy/woody as well. Sweeter than I thought it would be to start which then transitions to a leather and bitter aftertaste. Medium/heavy mouthfeel. Some coffee notes as well. The booze definitely makes itself known as it warms slightly. Dark fruit notes as well in almost a cloying way. It's a sipper for sure and not the best really at that.

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Photo of mdfb79
3.31/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

From 08/26/10 notes. Had at a local DC tasting, thanks a lot Gene!

a - Pours a dark black color with no head or carbonation evident.

s - Smells of roasted malts, peat, coffee, and chocolate. Smells a little like turpentine.

t - Tastes of alcohol, coffee, roasted malts, chocolate, and peat again.

m - Smooth and creamy. Medium to full body and low carbonation.

d - Not a huge fan of this one. Had it side by side with Black Damnation IV and preferred that one a lot more. Probably wouldn't seek out again.

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Photo of ridglens
3.35/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Hayesez for this taste, actually had the same bottle as rhodeska:

1/3 of the bottle poured into a portsmouth snifter, sipped from pretty chilly to room temp. keep in mind this was after a BCBS and a Parabola (for whatever that's worth). i'll keep this one short.

A- very pretty beer, black with thin dark head that leaves quickly. no lacing

S- weird, but kind of a skunky, scotchy, PEAT smell (yeah that's what i thought too). all smells intensified as it warmed, which was good and bad. some typical roastiness came through as well, which was great

T- scotch (which i don't really enjoy). Very roasted and good, but still with that weird, not all pleasant funk...

M- pretty damn creamy, could be a little thicker.

D- the flavor kind of stopped my mouth from begging for another sip...

not the worst beer i've ever had, but definitely not my tastes (weird, i usually like funky beers!) an interesting try, but i wonder if we got a less-than-great bottle, as none of us really loved it....

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Photo of kscaldef
3.41/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Oily black pour with a thick mocha head. No lacing, but lots of legs. A roasty, nutty aroma, with a slight fruitiness. Whisky in the nose is quite restrained. Overall, the aroma is a bit sedate. The taste is predominantly burnt coffee and dark chocolate. Again, there's less whisky influence than I'd like. Picks up a strangely acidic note as it warms further. Despite the large head on the pour, there's very little carbonation in this, but it still avoids being cloying although it's definitely heavy. Overall, this is a bit of a letdown for me, as Caol Ila is one of my favorite whiskeys and it doesn't seem to have really shown up here to any significant degree.

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Photo of Etan
3.46/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle.

A: Pours a glassy black with a huge tan head. Good retention.

S: Ground coffee beans, earthy cocoa and some peat, a hint of acrid smoke.

T: Scotch barrels are there in a big way, but aren't too overwhelming. Notes of chocolate, bitter coffee, some yeasty dried fruit aspects come out of a bed of woody peat.

M: Medium with a decent amount of carbonation.

O: The more Scotch barrel-aged stouts I try, the more I think stouts shouldn't be aged in Scotch barrels. This is one of the more balanced ones out there, but the flavors just don't do it for me.

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Photo of rhodeska
3.48/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

This beer was kind of a new one for me. That peat/scotch smell was something I am not used to, but I don't think I'm a huge fan of.

The appearance was fine, nice pour, looked really good. The smell was intriguing, maybe because it was just something new to me. However, the smell didn't come through in the taste to me, I wasn't a big fan of the peat taste... Overall, I guess the smell made it an interesting beer to taste but I'm not sure I would want a full glass of this beer.

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3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

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3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

Photo of NickMunford
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of HuskyinPDX
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

Bottle opened on 7.10.14

Syrupy sweet, burnt, bitter finish.

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Photo of CheapBeerBuzz
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

Photo of portia99
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Armsby Abbey at Stoutfest 2011. 6oz pour in a stemmed glass - sampled side x side x side with Black Damnation 2 and 4.

A - Pours a deep, dark black with a low tan head that is just off-white.

S - Whiskey, salt/sea water, smokey, peaty, boozy.

T - Not much (surprised!), flavors are low and not that distinct. I do pick up boozy/whiskey flavors, smoked and peaty malt and some hop bitterness. Smoke is a bit over the top.

M - Low to medium carbonation with a medium thick body. Very smokey - the defining aspect of this beer.

O - OK...not crazy about the smokey aspects. A bit overdone for my tastes and definitely different from most stouts - very definite Scottish Highlands aspect here...not sure it works though - at least for me.

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