Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) | Moa Brewing Company

Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)
BA SCORE
59.6%
Liked This Beer
3.71 w/ 525 ratings
Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Moa Brewing Company
New Zealand (Aotearoa)
moabeer.co.nz

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by KickbacksSteve on 01-14-2012

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#26,097
Reviews:
139
Ratings:
525
Liked:
313
Avg:
3.71/5
pDev:
15.36%
Alströms:
0
 
 
Wants:
8
Gots:
65
Trade:
0
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Ratings: 525 |  Reviews: 139
Photo of sweemzander
2.58/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.75

Photo of Lare453
2.59/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 1 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bottle Into a riedel Shiraz glass

First of all, fuck this beer. After barely loosening the cage, the cork, cage attached, blew out of the bottle grazing my forehead. Then started foaming like an asshole all over my new floor.

A unbelievable amount of foam... I'm talking about foam like I've never seen before. Soapy foam sits on top, thick dish soap foam like what you get from sanitizing when you brew. Black in color...

S very sweet, musty, like a used barrel...

T musty, sweet beginning, ou definitely get a lot of the Pinot noir/red wine in the middle and ntp the end, the end also has a slight malt and roast. The aftertaste is dry red wine.

M thin and way over carbonated. Not great...

O the only thing this beer has going for it is that it is one of the few beers aged in red wine barrels that you actually get red wine in the flavor. Other than that I would not get it again...

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Photo of kojevergas
2.62/5  rDev -29.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

My second beer from this brewery. I didn't much care for the first. Expectations are above average; it sounds good and I'm in the mood for the style, but I'm suspicious of its current low (by beeradvocate standards) ratings. Self-identifies as an Imperial Stout; it doesn't specify that it's a Russian Imperial Stout. Cost was $5.99 at a nearby Whole Foods; I guess that alone should have set off warning bells - a barrel aged import from halfway across the Earth oughtn't to be so inexpensive. Imported by Moa USA - another red flag, as a quaint local kiwi craft brewery wouldn't have its own importing company stateside.

"Flavored ale." Aged in Pinot Noir Barrels. Bottle fermented and conditioned. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

12.7 fl oz dark green (ugh...) bottle with attractive text and symbols on the actual glass and a hood and wire cap (i.e. cage) over a cork served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

Cork pops out with unnatural ease; that is the easiest cork to pop out I've ever come across and I've encountered one or two corked beers.

A: Pours a two finger dark khaki colour head of nice cream and thickness, and pretty good (~4+ minute) retention. Soft complexion. Light lacing as the head slowly recedes.

Body colour is an opaque (nontransparent and nontranslucent) solid dark black; not quite a jet black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Spot-on for the style, but not unique or special. Still, it's looking good. I'm starting to get a bit more confidence.

Sm: Chocolate, chocolate malt, white grapeskin, some generic woody notes but I wouldn't say oak, wine must, dark malts, a hint of vague lychee. The darker more conventional stout notes are up front whilst the wine-redolent notes are on the climax and finish - leaving me with the impression this is going to be structurally imbalanced and divisive. The notes don't feel cohesive and seamless, but rather opposing. Some cream. No coffee or roast. Some overly present hop character, including primarily floral hops. The out-of-place wine notes are unwelcome and supplant the imperial stout character. The barrel aging seems to overwhelm the base beer; this isn't seeming ideal at all. A mild strength aroma with a troublesome blatant lack of balance and subtlety. Nothing about the execution screams careful deliberate barrel aging. I'm skeptical of this.

T: Oh boy. She's imbalanced as hell. It's a warzone: overwhelmed traditional imperial stout notes - including chocolate malt, a bit of cream, and dark malts - struggle to fend off the pesky overbearing wine notes to no avail. By the start of the second act, the imperial stout notes have been defeated and only the wine notes remain, accompanied by an unwelcome untamed sweetness punctuated inappropriately by strangely artifical lychee notes. Nothing in terms of barrel or wood here; if you wanted refined oak you'll be disappointed. The wine notes grow a bit musty by the climax, evoking a raisiney caramel-ly vibe as the climax hands the baton to the lackluster finish. Aftertaste is all unwelcome sweetness that just plain doesn't belong in any beer of the style. Zero coffee, zero actual chocolate, zero roast. Some artificial grape juice. Syrupy.

I think I might be able to safely say this is a spectacular failure at an imperial stout; American Imperial Stout or Russian Imperial Stout style status notwithstanding.

Grows more and more raisin-y and a bit vinous as it warms. Whatever pinot noir the barrels previously contained was a poor wine.

Flavour duration is average. Flavour intensity is well below average for the style, but average overall.

Mf: Dries unnecessarily on the finish. Overcarbonated. Rugged. Smooth up front, but it coarsens as it goes, evoking a shriveled raisin-y character rather than whatever intricate smooth wine notes they unsuccessfully went for. Poor presence on the palate. Fails to facilitate the better flavours from the profile. Syrupy and thick - overly so for the lack of flavour diversity and depth.

Dr: Fails to hit the key elements of the style on a fundamental level. Frankly, I'm unsure what to give it. Partly because in spite of all its flaws, it's still damn drinkable for 10.2% ABV. I don't hate it, though I could certainly see where such a response would be justified. It requires an alteration of one's expectations; if you're expecting and in the mood for a good imperial stout, this will massively disappoint. Wouldn't recommend it to friends and I wouldn't get it again. I'll concede that it's a failure at what it's attempting to do, but if we consider it aside from its purported style, it's not a bad beer per se. I can see this beer being a love/hate brew for many. But at its current price point, I'd say it's worth the roll of the dice.

It may be the biggest waste of barrel aging I've ever come across.

C-

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Photo of gashmoney
2.74/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Only rating because I'm forced to. No body, no sweetness, too much wine barrel. On the gross side of things for me. Very tobacco-y.

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Photo of Kmlund
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of JRBecks
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of Davepoolesque
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of EB1
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of CoryR
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of StoutIrish
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of Sludgeman
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of Skagnetti
2.75/5  rDev -25.9%

Photo of madbrewer9
2.78/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Very dark brown. Low light tan head with very fine bubbles. Leaves some lace on glass.

Get some fruit and alchohol in the nose

Taste is somewhat wine like, med. Maltiness with slight hop bitterness. No hop flavor. Get a little barrel flavor.
Lacks the chocolate, coffee and roastiness I'd expect from a RIs

Mouthfeel is very thin.

Nice beer but lacks the oomph this style requires.

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Photo of Claribrew
2.79/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.75

A - pours into tulip glass with an enormous head. This beer is extremely overcarbonated. almost opaque black with a deep tan head.

S - be careful breathing in after pouring this beer... So much CO2 escaping I can barely smell anything. Once that's gone, deep dark fruit,tobacco, burnt oak, orange peel, molasses, and toffee.

T - the first word that comes to mind is "tart." Tobacco, oak, slight alcohol warmth. Aftertaste is tannic, astringent, and sharp. sourness, then nearly metallic. Lingering tones of red wine and tartness, and later, bitter husk and chalk.

M - this is where they really missed the mark. The beer is so carbonated that even a very careful pour produces 80% head. The carbonation left in the beer is low, but with a sharp taste of carbonic acid. This makes the body seem very thin, and for the already-sharp flavors going on in this beer, it really doesn't work.

Overall - not worth the $5. Judging by other reviews, I don't think my overcarbonated bottle is a fluke. The problem here is balance - too many sharp flavors (roastiness, tannins, unsweetened chocolate, tartness, over carbonation) and not enough residual sweetness. Quite the opposite of the velvety smoothness that oak (and particularly wine barrel) usually brings to a beer.

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Photo of ADZA
2.85/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

First of all ive got say its abit daunting when your about to review a beer and you see such a low average anyways here goes and it pours a dark black hue with crimson edges and leaves a massive three finger dimple laden head and lacing everywhere,the smell is mocha,dark chocolate,herbal hops and a touch of pinot noir,and from the mouthfeel i begin to understand the low average as its light bodied way too light for a RIS and especially with this high ABV and the taste doesnt get much better as its mainly watery dark chocolate,a light touch of milky mocha,herbal hops and the finish is definately dominated by the pinot noir oak and overall dont believe the hype just believe the overall average as i would not revisit this anytime soon and still in shock about the mouthfeel cheers.

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Photo of LubricatedWisdom76
2.87/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

I am a big fan of most of the Moa and had never tried this beer so was hoping for big things, especially with the barrel aging. Unfortunately the over-carbonation ruins this beer, big time. In a category that is filled with tasty complexity and outstanding examples, this is below average.

Appearance: jet black but way to much yeasty carbonation from the bottle conditioning, even when poured carefully.

Smell: probably the best part of the whole experience as it combines roastiness and burnt flavors with a sourness and musty element from the barrel aging. Not my preference with this style but definitely interesting.

Taste: Like the aroma, it is a mix of burnt coffee and some definite tart, vinous qualities and sourness. The carbonation, though, scrubs the palate way too quickly so none of this good complexity hangs around.

Mouthfeel: The great ruiner of a beer that might otherwise have some unique features.

Overall: I wouldn't buy this again. At a time when the market is flooded with Imperial Stouts and DIPAs as most breweries' showcases of flavor this isn't one that can compete. I'll stick to the MOA pilsner and St. Josephs Tripel.

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Photo of ZoomanCru
2.9/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

MOA – Barrel Aged Stout (10.2%) - Moa Brewing Company (New Zealand)
☆☆½

App: Black pour with a serious three finger head that is way off for the style. Bottle seemed a little over carbed when opened. Allowed to settle and warm for nearly 20 minutes. Head is thick and creamy and very dark, with a sort of tawny brown color. Head retains like crazy, wish it would settle so I could drink the damned thing. Lacing is high and sticky with individual bubbles visible.

Smell: Smell is very strong on the barrel, with a significant woodiness and a twinge of acetic. Some dark roasted malt aromas come through, but are nearly hidden under the barrel aromas. Some very basic hints of dried fruit. As head settles, alcohol volatility becomes apparent.

Taste: Whoa. This beer is just absolutely overflowing with complexity. Fore taste is very sweet, and allowed to sit on the palate opens up into an impressive milk chocolate and plum-skin tartness that is very pleasant. Continues to its third act with a touch of roasty dryness that fights hard agains the sweetness and the alcohol. Dryness looses out, and alcohol is very apparent. Frankly a little hot, more akin to wine (which I don't usually expect in a 10pt stout). My hypothesis is that this bottle had a little extra sugar and was shipped/stored warm, increasing the ABV to around 11.5 (an estimate). Some really nice dark notes on the aftertaste.

Mouth: Totally overcarbed, a little too lingering in its sweetness, and the presence of the alcohol is drying my mouth out. All totally against style and very detrimental to overall impression.

Home tasting, 12.7oz bottle (Half Pour) into Snifter.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
2.94/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Poured a way to overcarbonated jet black color with a big brown cap that took about five minutes to settle.

S: Charred wood, licorice, chocolate, dark fruits, nice and light funkiness

T: Some dark fruit notes upfront, with charred wood, hint of funk giving way to acidic, coffee and licorice

M: Way overcarbonated, medium to big body, boozey

O: Meh. Pass.

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Photo of valkyre65
3/5  rDev -19.1%

Photo of NSXAG
3/5  rDev -19.1%

MOA Brewing - Imperial Stout [Stout Aged in Pinot Noir Barrels] (12.7oz ---> Stemless wine glass : 10.2% ABV)

Pours extremely dark and opaque, with about an inch and a half of foamy khaki head… The nose is that of a chocolate and roasty malts, with darker berries on the finish… Going to take my first sip, I notice the retention in the head and the lacing are both quite nice, as both has remained quite well with minimal assistance from the hardly present carbonation… A light chocolate bitterness is the first taste to present itself on the palate, followed by a warm wave of cranberries with traces of molasses woven in there… The mouthfeel is not horrible, though it does have a syrupy viscidity to it, which is not entirely appreciated for this particular brew… The finish doesn't exactly "align" with the rest of the beer, which can be said about just about every other aspect also… It's as if it's an All-Star Team at their first practice - All the right stuff, but no chemistry… So while all the components make this a very alluring beer, it lacks unity and structure… Though, on a comprehensive level it falls short, the highlights of this beer make it one I feel is at least worth a try for someone looking for alternative tastes… Another good brew - Cheers!!

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Photo of TreeBear
3/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of jjd315
3/5  rDev -19.1%

Photo of rockrob
3/5  rDev -19.1%

Photo of pma7779
3/5  rDev -19.1%

Photo of bbadger
3/5  rDev -19.1%

Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) from Moa Brewing Company
Beer rating: 59.6% out of 100 with 525 ratings
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