Leonard Croon's Old Mean Stout | Dunedin Brewery

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Leonard Croon's Old Mean StoutLeonard Croon's Old Mean Stout

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Dunedin Brewery
Florida, United States

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): not listed

Availability: Winter

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Added by StevieW on 03-16-2003

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.52/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Served up a dark brown, near black body with a slim, off-white head.
Smell: Roasted malts with a coffee-scented accent to them, low-grade chocolate, and light plums.
Taste: An initial coffee-toned, robust roastiness is softened by some semi-sweet chocolate and a modest dark fruitiness. Restrained hops and bitterness. Pulls back to a predominately basic roasty flavor until the soft finish.
Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.
Overall: Satisfactory.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.98/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

hey everbody, ol' lennie croon here. them good folks up at dunedin has asked me an' my dog hops to give all a' y'all a few thoughts on a bottle a' my homebrew. now course it ain't exactly my homebrew since i done give them dunedin boys the recipe and they brewed it they ownselves, but i'm sure it's pretty damn close.

first thang i wanna say is that this here beer aint old an' it aint mean so i'm not sure where they come up with the name thats on this here bottle. now i'm older'n dirt and some'd say i'm mean, least 'til i toss back a few jugs a' my beer. 'course there was that unfortunate shotgun incident back in '02 but that weren't rightly my fault. second thang is that hops caint rightly say if'n he likes the beer (he's smart but he aint no goldamn genius) but i'll be able to know based on how he's barkin' and waggin' and such. now lets commence to studyin' on the beer.

blacker and wetter'n ol' hops nose, this is. blacker'n the oil what comes outta my truck. the foamin' is purty nice too, sort of a light brown like the swamp water gets after a storm. i don't go in fer that lace shit so's i ain't even gettin' inta that. smells purty nice to the ol' sniffer, like that chocolatey syrup what i put on ice cream and kinda like the strong black joe that i have ever' mornin'. them boys up at the brew'ry nailed this sucker, they done me proud boy.

this here stuff is plenty a' chocolate and black joe like i said and its got a little burntness to it thats just enuff to be good. they didnt forget 'bout the hops neither, theys in there givin' a nice sharp bitterness that i love so much i named my hound after 'em. the thickness is purty good too, i can roll this stuff aroun' a little and sorta chew on it jest like i do with my homebrew, but it could be a mite thicker to suit me.

i caint unnerstand how the good ol' boys round these parts can drink that there yella pisswater, 'specially not when i'd be more 'n happy to share my brew with 'em. now if'n y'all'll excuse me, i'm gonna do less thinkin' and more drinkin' and then me an' ol' hops is gonna go take a lil' dog nap out under the live oaks. 'fore i go though, i wanna thank that nice feller BierReise for bringin' me this here bottle from the city. he's an upstandin' guy. knows 'is beer thats fer sure.

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Photo of Jason
3.03/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Presentation: 16 oz brown bottle with a silk screened label, no freshness date.

Appearance: Pours with a color of used motor oil, thin bubbly lace with little retention.

Smell: A big whiff of yeast and semi-acrid roasted grain.

Taste & Mouthfeel: Slick on the tongue with a lacking smoothness as well as very little crispness. Suggestions of beef broth and charcoal come to mind. Minimal citric hop flavor but some bitterness is there … tastes like the bitterness is more from the roasted malt. Heavy hand of yeast on the palate, finishes semi-dry.

Notes: A tad too astringent for me and a bit hard to drink, not horrible but not something I’d drink as a session beer either.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.75/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Silkscreened label depicts what appears to be a satyr holding a fiddle dancing on a rock. Is that right?
Color is firmly, fully black, black as Satan's spleen, and the head is a nicely retained, frothy, brown. Aroma is nicely roasted and toasted, with espresso tinges and bitter notes I quite admire.
On first taste, it feels more like an oatmeal stout than any other kind. Not exactly thick in mouthfeel, but still full-bodied, rich, and delicious. An easily downable stout, but not terribly outstanding.
Label states, below the fiddling satyr, "slam this mutha!" I hope they forgive me for not following that stern directive. I approached this generous 16 0z. bottle with careful consideration.
And it was okay, a fine-enough stout. Thanks again, JohnnyDuvel!

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Photo of GarthDanielson
4.23/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured on-tap at the Dunedin Brewery. The beer was served in a pint glass, and it pours a jet black, viscous pour. Light, foamy, frothy milk chocolate colored head that settles very quickly. There are deep, rich smells of roasted coffee and dark chocolate. Very dry and smooth in mouth. Flavors are rich in dark bittersweet chocolate, dark roasted coffee, and a light smokiness that brings everything together. Dry and smooth finish, with a smokey and semisweet aftertaste.

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Photo of ppoitras
3.03/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

16oz bottle with reasonably involved silkscreening obtained via trade with BierReise. Thanks for the opportunity...

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a half inch of brown head which shrunk down to a small layer of foam reasonably quickly. Excellent light lacing over the pitch black opaque liquid. Heavy aroma of dark malts, chocolate and coffee, with maybe a tinge of smoke hiding in there. Flavor follows along in the aroma's footsteps, with the dark malts dominating, leaving little room for much else to show its colors. Bitterness present, but not so much hops bitterness as the dark malt again. Little to no carbonation in the mouthfeel, which seems odd and hurts a bit, in my estimation. Bitterness sort of puts a damper on the drinkability as well. Not a bad brew, just not what I look for in a stout.

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Photo of sulldaddy
3.83/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Almost done with my FL brews.
I am sampling this beer at room temp in an english pint glass. The beer pours pitch black with a soft creamy tan head of 2 cm foaming up easily. The head fades very slowly leaving a tight display of latticework entirely around the glass. This looks good!
Aroma is espresso mixing with dark chocolate and some roasted malt as well. As I drink I detect some smoke in there as well. There is also the faintest hit of grassy hops.
First sip reveals a much thinner body than I expected and average carbonation. Flavor is simlar to the nose with mostly espresso and chocolate and a slightly bitter mid swallow that I cant discern if it is from the black patent malt on the label or from the hops. Halfway through the pint I start to pick up some smokiness on the finish which mixes well with the roasted malt. The finish is rather dry which makes me thirsty. A nice smooth beer that is very dark but doesnt sit too heavy. When you remember the brewery is near the beach and it is probably 85 degrees + when you drink this local, the light body is probably a good thing.
Overall a tasty brew.

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Photo of blitheringidiot
2.22/5  rDev -36.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Bottle states "Slam this mutha!"

Pours with a viscous used motor oil hue with nary a light splinter finding a way through topped with a frothy sudsy beige cap that takes its good ole time settling down.

Getting some goofy scents here of pine and leathery plastic.

First swigs: Leathery and overly bitter. The flavors are way whacky here. Cola and borderline awful. Maybe I need to try another. Heck, this was only $2.99. It's the silk screened bottle. Maybe it went South? Feels thick but, overall, this can't be what they had in mind.

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Photo of Jredner
3.97/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bitter hop aroma with a bit of maltiness. Pours like a classic stout, deep blacck, but this one has a thinnish tan head. Flavor is coffee dominated with mild chocolate notes and roastiness running through all flavor ranges. I think it's a pretty decent stout just very mild on flavor intensity.

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Photo of StevieW
4.4/5  rDev +25%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

16 oz brown bottle. The name is dedicated to a local band.
Murky black color, shiny. Full bubbly beige head. Thick and creamy. Smell was subtle combination of roasted bitterness, coffee, and hops. Figgy, plum, and roasted fruit smell and subtle tastes. Flavor is super smooth and creamy combination of burnt malt, bitter coffee, and bittersweet chocolate creaminess to finish. Whispers of Cascade hops finish things up. Smooth chocolate presence finishes up and lingers on the tongue after a nice hoppy cheek puckering snap. Full bodied and thick. The combination of burnt flavors and chocolate creaminess make this a memorable and very good stout. Finish gets a touch watery, then resounding hop burps make you remember this one.
This is a very very good stout, please give it a try.

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Photo of GallowsThief
3.33/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the House of Brews in Jensen Beach, Fl.

A – Poured out a bad ass black with tiny bit of milk chocolate head that receded quickly. Small amount of clingy lacing.

S – Roasted malts, espresso, slight bitter, dark fruit with figs.

T – Nice rich chocolate with some smoky, burnt highlights. Definitely a bitter coffee taste with a touch of vanilla cream. Roasted malt. Not a very sweet brew but has some hints from what I am guessing is the figs and possible plum.

M – Medium to thick bodied and a bit on the chewy side. Doesn’t coat the palate more slides off of it. Little to no carbonation.

O – Decent to good but not great. Missing something. Could use a little less bitter and possible a shade more of sweetness to balance it better. Still worth a try and I would again.

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Photo of Fish113d
3.35/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

From a bottle, it pours a black color with a brown/ruby head that reaches 2 fingers in thickness. The head is also seafoamy (my take on it) and spongy! Great appearance! Aroma is mostly of nutty brown roasted malts with lots of chocolate. It reminds me of a Mr. Goodbar with a slight rasberry aroma as well; complex and fun! Taking a sip, i taste lots of roasty malts that goes bitter and thin with a slight almond flavor. not much sweetness that I hoped for at all! Pretty watery actually, lacking flavor. Not too bad, but could improve a lot! Feel is balanced a bit but WAAAAYYY too thin for the style; overly disappointed. Overall, it is drinkable and worth a try, but not worthy of the style.

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Photo of ManekiNeko
2.02/5  rDev -42.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

1 pt bottle served slightly chilled in a Guinness glass.

Appearance: Black black black topped by a huge light brown head, which pretty much didn't go away the entire glass. Thick sheets of lacing.

Smell: Predominantly fruity smells of prunes, cherries and grapes. Faint aromas of dark chocolate and coffee in the background, but the fruits rule this kingdom.

Taste: More sour than bitter. Extremely grapy overall. Hints of chocolate and black strap malts. Way too dang fruity for this style.

Mouthfeel: Thin and watery. Acidic and acrid.

Drinkability: Brett infection? Intentional? Bad bottle? I'm hoping this is the case.

Thanks to Bierriese and BIF 6 for the opportunity.

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Photo of BierReise
3.25/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

16oz Bottle No Freshness Date Poured quickly and produced no head just a thin film. Color is solid black with light just barely creeping through edges. Aroma of roasted malt and dark coffee. Body is on the thin side and finishes slightly dry. Flavor is raosted malt and a tad bitter. Surprisingly very drinkable. Overall a decent brew.

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Photo of JohnnyDuvel
3.1/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This stout reminds me of a lot of several micro stouts I've had. Somewhat thin body (almost watery), overly bitter (but not as much as some). Flavor is pretty good, a little chocolate, expresso too. Overall, just too thin and bitter for me. I wish I could like it more, because these guys are really cool. Best brewery down here. I'm not knocked out by the micro stouts. I'll take my Sammy Smith!

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Photo of shippos
3.56/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks to luckysevens82 for the opportunity.

black body with a tan thin head but dense.
sweet milky aroma with a great roasted character with a hoppy aroma ikn the background. average but very drinkable mouthfeel followed by a dry bitter hop character with a black malt astringency in the finish. very clean smooth aftertaste, very drinkable.

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Photo of SigEp
3.65/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Excellent stout, favorably comparable to Shakespeare stout by Rogue. thick rich with chocolate overtones and characteristic sub-charcoal of burnt malts. moderately hoppy and very pleasing to the nose. Dark black off brown thicker than a Guiness but not as motor-oil as Stormking or it's imperial brethren. It rarely gets cold enough down here in Florida to truly enjoy this dark-breed, so I suggest cranking up the AC and sitting under the vent while enjoying one of these Florida-born delicacies!

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Photo of Gaben
3.48/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 5 | smell: 2 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Picked up a mixed four pack from B-21 and this brew happend to be two of them.

This stuff might not be the best tasting or looking stuff around but if you want a differnt tasting stout then here you go, for this got its nickname here in the bay "Mud Boy" aka "Mud Stout!"

The appearance is pretty weird and somewhat nice, no foamy head what so ever, just a good pour down the middle and you can start up on this "Black as night" brew.

The smell isnt much there , I'll but it this way , if drink all of you stout "Mostly dry's like beamish" and find you glass in the morning and smell it, there you go, thats what Mud Boy smells like.

As for the taste thats something differnt, it would be somewhat like an imperial stout without all the ABV%. You can surely feel that it has the roasted malty goodness and a hint of mud.

Mouthfeel isnt too good, kinda dull, and very muddy/sticky with lots of carbantion

Drinkability is alright , I remember wanting more of these other then the same old borning guinness draught.

So yes I did like this brew, I mean if you a stout fan and sick of the same old , then try yourself a mudboy and see for yourself.

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Photo of MichaelLynBryant
4.33/5  rDev +23%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dunedin Brewery brews this beer once a year & releases it the First Friday in February. This review is from the 2011 brew.

Look - Pours black with a dark brown head.

Aroma - Subtle roast with notes of espresso coffee and chocolate malt.

Flavor - This old mean stout has a sessionable alcohol content while giving the drinker a robust & roasty experience. Taste is roast coffee, bitter chocolate, and sweet malt. Delicious.

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Leonard Croon's Old Mean Stout from Dunedin Brewery
3.52 out of 5 based on 42 ratings.
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