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Southampton Biere De MarsSouthampton Biere De Mars
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Southampton Publick House
New York, United States | website

Style: Bière de Garde

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.50%

Availability: Spring

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Bierman9 on 03-25-2004

BEER STATS
Reviews:
224
Ratings:
396
Avg:
3.78
pDev:
12.17%
 
 
Wants:
33
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15
For Trade:
1
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Reviews: 224 | Ratings: 396
Photo of JohnGalt1
2.11/5  rDev -44.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

12oz Inflatablechair brought over tonight... Thanks Sammy!! Cool and a new to me brew.

Pours a light orange with a short lasting white head... little lacing or retention.

The nose is off-putting .... immediately makes me think of malt extract... a bit perfumy that could be hops or spices, but the thick maltiness is overpowering.... Sam says "oxidized" his palate/nose is miles ahead of mine.

Flavor is no better... tastes like an unfermented homebrew experiment... I can detect/identify nothing that comes across as hops or spice... just tons of malt (extract) ..

Palate seems thick and a light carbonation that does nothing to scrub the flavors off the tongue...

The first time in a looong time that Sam and I haven't finished even half a bottle.

3/2/2/2.5/2

I don't think this was a bad or old bottle... I just believe it wasn't done well. If I am wrong, somebody please approach me and I will happily trade for a different bottle. Cheers, Toby.

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Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
2.26/5  rDev -40.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

12oz to pint glass. Sampled 4/7/11.

A: Small 1/2 finger foamy head, off-white in color and below average retention. The body is light golden orange and has brilliant clarity with a steady pace of bubbles running up the sides of the glass. Lacing is spare.

S & T: Malt dominant brew. No hops are detectable on the nose. Toast, must, wood, old sock. Mildly spicy. Touch of sweetness with a smooth boozy alcoholic note presented in cherry form.

M: Full body, thick and chewy. Lively carbonation. Good mouthfeel with points being deducted from the alcoholic texture and the finish, which should have been drier.

O: I thought this would be a style that Southampton would nail but this beer has an odd, very unpleasant aroma and flavor. Would like to try it on tap or (even better) the 750mL version some day for comparison.

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Photo of steve8robin
2.58/5  rDev -31.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got this in a BIF. 12oz bottle. Let's see..

A: Golden honey color with some nice orange tint. Small 1 inch white head that fades at a decent pace. Good.

S: Sweet sugary malts with some nice strawberry blended in. Some hints of caramel and toffee. Not much else. Decent.

T: Kind of a strange tart bite to this one. Almost like a metallic bite. Kind of a dirty watery type taste. Hard to get past. Eh, not good.

M: Leaves a strange bite of aluminum in your mouth. Ok.

D: Hard to get past the strange metallic taste to this brew. Ok.

All in all, this brew was not good. The flavors it did have blended in a very unpleasant way. Don't bother hunting or trying if you have access.

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Photo of billybob
2.75/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 oz. bottle with no freshness date. light copper color half inch head faded very quickly to just beer almost no lace. smells sweet and musty like old brewed tea. sweet malty taste hint of caramel, alcohol, oily feel to it after taste of old tea, poor carbonation overall very disappointed i have had southampton's double white which is excellent but i will not buy this beer again.

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Photo of Givemebeer
2.78/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

A: Golden with a surprisingly thin head and not much lacing

S: Light fruits and light grainy scents

T: Spicy and vague light fruit. Semi-dry finish

M: Light bodied

O: I really expected more out of this one. Could definitely say its refreshing, but thats about it. Scent and taste are weak and I would have liked a bit of a drier crisper finish. Definitely needs more to it if its going to be 6.5%

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Photo of jeffthecheff
2.87/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours amber gold in color with a thinner than expected head. The head eventually dies down to the point where it can't be swirled back up. Good clarity.

The aroma has some toasted malt, some caramel, some maple, and some spice. Not a ton of yeast character. A little bit of mustiness comes through, but came across as un-fresh and stale instead of earthy. The flavor follows with some toasty malt up front, a slight buttery flavor, and a bit of low quality caramel on the finish. Nothing to get excited about.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied, slick, and with medium carbonation. This beer isn't great, but I'll take another right now. I'm not in a picky mood tonight.

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Photo of woosterbill
2.89/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Prime 16 into an Unibroue tulip.

A: Perfectly clear light amber body with an inch of creamy white foam. Pretty good retention and lacing. Lovely.

S: Huh. Sharp lager-like sulfurous yeast, dry pilsner malt and some spicy phenols on the back end. Not what I was expecting, and not all that great.

T: Sweet fruits up front, then dry pilsner-like breadiness followed by a biting bit of chalky minerality on the finish. Complex, but slightly unpleasant, actually.

M: Active medium body; the carbonation starts sharp and finishes smooth. Nice.

D: Weird mix of malt sweetness and yeast dryness. I'm not really a fan.

Notes: While I'm normally a big fan of what Southampton does, this one left me cold. I have to admit I'm not terribly familiar with the Bière de Garde style, but this was by far the least enjoyable of the several examples I've had - although I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be the most closely representative one. I'll keep an open mind until I've had more opportunities to sample authentic European versions.

Cheers!

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Photo of avalon07
2.93/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a bright orange color and a cloudy consistency. There was absolutely no head or lacing to speak of.

S: Aroma was very muted, but had traces of fruit, malt, and some phenols.

T: Tasted of malt, orange, some mild spices, but little else. This beer is just thin and watery without much character. Not at all what you expect from the style.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a sharp, vibrant finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This beer does have a couple of decent qualities, but it fails in the flavor category.

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Photo of mactrail
2.95/5  rDev -22%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

More like a golden bock beer, rather strong and even a little sweet. Very slight foam on the amber brew. A decent carbonation on the tongue. Beery and slightly perfumey aroma.

Fairly thick mouthfeel. Malty with a touch of butterscotch. I could not detect any of the Belgian flavors. I don't know how you would categorize this as a Biere de Garde or anything remotely in the style. Perfectly drinkable, but hard to rate it fairly. A scratchy finish with some winey bitterness.

From the 12 oz bottle, oddly enough available at the supermarket in DC.

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Photo of nbaeteer
3.01/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Appearance: attractive light bronze color. visible bubbles/carbonation. pours a full one finger head that quickly dissolves to a thin film which lasts until the glass is empty.

Aroma: Orange, citrus with a light hoppiness and floral background.

Taste: Estery with a light maltiness

Mouthfeel: light astringency in the back of the mouth. Bitter citrus qualities are more noticeable in the taste than in the smell.

Overall: Really a restrained beer that shows it's strengths when you pay a little more attention to it. Definitely not a beer that makes a real strong first impression but has some Saison like qualities and also some Kolsch traits.

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Photo of thecheapies
3.04/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Cream soda/amber color with plenty of carb streams a-risin'. Minimal head from a topped-off pour. No significant lace effect.

Grassy hops with a mild acidity not unlike white cheddar. Pale grains and crabapple.

Tinny and musty. Opening woody acidity and finishing fizzy bitterness. Caramel malts are up-front, and a quaint tartness is all but missing. Off-kilter for the style. No yeast esters of prominence. Slight granny smith sour sting that's quickly cleansed with the toasted grains and some booze. Very unexceptional and down-letting.

Too fizzy. Body's okay. A little turning in the belly. Will need a big stout to settle myself up.

Had more hopes for Southampton on this one. Can't win 'em all.

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Photo of danedelman
3.05/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A-very coppery for this style, I feel.

S-maltiness, some grassy and even a hint of coffee.

T-malt bomb!! no tartness which I was thinking I would get from this one.

M-medium bodied

Overall-not impressed and a little disappointed on this one. I usually love southampton too. :(

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Photo of Ineedabeerhere
3.06/5  rDev -19%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From one of the new 12oz bottling. Had this earlier tonight.

Surprisingly good clarity on the pour, a golden-ish color with small white cap, a dot of lace or two. Ring lasts.

The aroma.. well it's kind of leaving me disinterested. Yeast characters combine with the spice additions for equal parts of fruitiness (berries, mostly) and spice (some a floral-ish component as well). But there's this overture of butteryness that's just kind of off-putting. As it came up to room temp, this intensified.

The taste has a moderate spice presence... though they don't say what spices they add to this specifically...as it warmed, this became pretty dominant and almost medicinal in nature... clearly not all coming from the yeast. Some dirt and bread. Dry finish, low-medium level of carbonation, the spiciness lasts on the tongue... not too appealing.

I guess it's an interesting stab at the style, but it could've used a lot more of a hop bite and a more interesting malt profile to balance out all the spiciness here.

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Photo of vkv822
3.07/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz : tulip

Clear, golden orange with a thin, foamy white head.

Toasty, sweet malts predominately, with some faint grassy, and melon hop notes.

Medium-full body, with mild foamy carbonation.

Not unpleasant, but the flavor profile was fairly subdued and one dimensional.

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Photo of oriolesfan4
3.08/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Part of the Southampton mixed 12 pack. Pours a somewhat dark golden color. Smallish head to it.. very strong aroma, wine like almost. Medium to full bodied... very sweet beer. Good mouthfeel, quite carbonated. Reminds me a lot of champagne tastewise.. even a bite of alcohol in there. Not totally into this style but this one isn't bad... give me an IPA or Amber over this one for sure but definitely drinkable and a good change of pace beer for a unique style.

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Photo of goodbyeohio
3.09/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

been sitting on this beer for 6 months, and at 6+%, seems like the right time to crack it.. after all, it's a rather warm, spring-like night. 750ml, all dressed up with gold foil. cork is a bitch to remove with an anti-climactic sigh/dull pop emerging. this is a southampton cork expectation though, so i continue..

golden orange in appearance, jubilant, fluffy head disappears quickly leaving not much more than a thin, even layer of sud. stray bubbles dance about and the body looks a bit dense and cloudy. almost clear, not quite. lacing is present and it rocks hard against the glass, staging a sit-in on the walls of the tulip.

nose.. doesn't exist too much. ok, let's be p.c. and say 'subtle'. there is a hint of fresh-baked donuts.. sweet & yeasty. maybe a lemon spritz and the quick whiff of a blossoming garden.

tastes kinda so-so too.. sticks with the whole nose profile. there is a brief sourness.. not quite brett, but funky nevertheless. more lemon than lactobacillus. quickly makes way for a light, crisp, nearly flavorless brew accented mildly by hops and light fruit tang- think wild raspberries. mouthfeel is both creamy and sharp, easy to drink and that is admirable. tastewise, this is a middle of the road belgian pale ale, or a wannabe saison. take your pick.

not impressed, won't try this one again.

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Photo of KTCamm
3.15/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served from a 12 ounce bottle into a pint glass.

Pours light copper with orange tint with a small layer of white foam. Slight orange fruity smell. Some funkiness too.

Creamy taste, orange citrus overtones. Somewhat gritty mouthfeel, like too much of the rind got in the mix.

This one didn't work as much for me.

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Photo of curasowa
3.16/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: Hazy, light brown color with a thin cap of head that fades quickly.

Aroma: Very bready, molasses, hints of ripe fruit.

Taste: Syrupy sweetness, bready malt, then a bit of funky yeast in the middle. Sourness builds on the back end, with some nutty and grain husk notes trailing in the finish which is fairly lingering.

The Rest: To be fair, this is a style I don't have a lot of expirence with. It reminds me somewhat of a dubble, but the malt and sweetness is just a bit too unbalanced.

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Photo of GbVDave
3.17/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Chimay chalice. Extra special thanks to Ineedabeerhere for this from our latest trade!

Bottle dated 061110

A: Pours a clear, apple cider gold with the tinyest suggestion of head on top. Really. It barely reached 1/8 of a finger thick before it completely disappeared. Not one speck of lace was left behind.

S: Vaguely grapey and toasty with huge amounts of butter. Also picked up a hint of green apple.

T: Pretty much as above with more toasted grains and a flavor I can only describe as woody butter.

M: Pretty much covers the toasty, dry, and bitter side of the spectrum. Actually, I found this to be the best thing about this beer.

D: This was kind of a "meh" beer for me. Not bad, just sort of blah. I'd really like to have tried the version of it shown in the picture above.

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Photo of Thickfreakness
3.21/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A- Pours a deep, honey-caramel orange with a tinted one finger head that fades away rather quickly and leaves just little drips and drabs of lacing. A decent little bit of carbonation.

S- Sugared lemons and black peppercorns. Subtle hints of honey, caramel, mowed over leaves, and some notes of bitter citrus peel and a touch of yeastiness.

T- Notes of sweet caramel, lemon pepper, spicy basil, toasted nuts, buttered popcorn, milky toffee. Again, little hints of bitter citrus peel. The pepper really hits you on the back end of the swallow, just before being overtaken by the sugary sweetness.

M- Decent blend of sweet and bitter... but in somehow, and weird way. No real sence of carbonation as the beer rolls on the tongue. Pretty darn flat indeed.

O- I wouldn't call this bland, but I was hoping for so much more from this fantastic brewery. Not bad, but I'm not sure I'll be buying this again anytime soon.

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Photo of yelterdow
3.21/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served at just over fridge temperature in a Duvel tulip. EPseja joined me in this hard-to-find and expensive ($10.79) adventure.

Appearance- Pours a pale honey with a solid inch-thick head. Foamy, sudsy bone white crown that sits like shaving cream in a full bathroom sink. A good amount of lacing trails behind. Very, very nice.

Smell- Saaz-like hops strike the nasal passages immediately, almost too hard. Some sour, yeasty, lemony, wheat notes follow with a hint of perfume and flowers. As time unfurls, a sourdough bread character becomes evident along with a trace of phenols. The nose opens up and becomes sweeter over a half-hour or so.

Taste- Characteristic of an old beer, with its acidic and citric bitterness. Some astringency comes forth which makes me wince slightly... lemon and bread remain on the lips after the swallow.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- A bit sharp and aggressive in the mouth with resulting big ass burps... almost to a detriment. The beer mellows a little after several minutes, but this intensifies the punchy sourness that now has taken over almost completely. Not an easy beer to get through to the end... next time I will pair this one with food, as I believe there is some balance that needs to be achieved.

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Photo of Sean9689
3.23/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Southampton Mega Tasting! Bottle #141/250...original batch brewed at the Publik House.

A - Pours yellow, clear, white head, thin ring.

S - Yeasty funk, cloves, wheat, slight sweetness, orange peel.

T - Similar to the nose. Yeast, wheat, some sweetness, citrus.

M - Light, crisp, dry finish.

O - Meh, not my kinda beer. Not really digging this one.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.24/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12 oz bottle into a teku.

Appearance: Pours a hazy copper color. The head is about a finger high and eggshell in shade. Retention is nothing special, though a little bit of lacing sticks to the glass. (3)

Smell: Sweet caramel malts dominate, with additional biscuity touches. Some lighter stone fruits appear when it opens up. I'm struggling to pick up any significant rustic notes aside from subtle touches of bread and black pepper, though.

Taste: Starts off with plenty of caramel and brown sugar qualities, maybe even some graham cracker. It finishes vaguely spicy, with some black pepper and a touch (I do mean a touch, too) of farmhouse yeast. Pleasant, but lacking depth. (3.25)

Mouthfeel: Despite the powerful crystal malt sweetness, it finishes quite dry - dry enough to be easy to drink, in fact! Sweetness does accumulate after many sips, slowing things down. That's due to the fact that it doesn't feel very lively on the tongue. (3.25)

Overall: It is what it is, a nice springtime beer, no more or no less. Still, I can't help but wish for more of a rustic character - this tastes more like a typical amber ale to me. Worthy enough, but I like to think there are funkier biere de gardes out there... (3.25)

3.24/5: Not bad at all, too bad it lacks the proper farmhouse characteristics

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Photo of AgentZero
3.28/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Southampton Mega Tasting beer, thanks to beerworld for this original 2008 bottling, #141 of #250.

A - This looks a lot like the last couple Southampton beers we had. Big white head, little bit of lace, golden looking brew with slight haze.

S - I get some very strange notes on this one, menthol, eucalyptus, honey, mint, camomile tea, as well as some yeast and sweet malts. Not really doing it for me, also not sure that this is what it is suppose to smell like, but the bottle is somewhat older.

T - Taste is a little better than the smell, with some of the weird herbal notes more muted. I still get some mint and tea along with some honey. Truth is, the taste on this whole thing is quite mild. It is a little champagney, and reminds me of drinking some type of champagne-water.

M - Decent carbonation, lighter, dry finish.

O - Not a huge fan, some of the tastes a re just a little too off for me. Glad to have tried the original bottling, but either it hasn't held up well or it was just off to begin with.

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Photo of Bouleboubier
3.28/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I was looking forward to trying this, first time having it. I noticed the bottled pictured is different (grand-er presentation) - any explanation for that?

Clear, yellow-orange hue with next to no head. Mild spice character, cloyingly smooth feel that gradually took precedence over the flavor. Sure didn't taste like 6.5%, but certainly felt it, especially in the after-aftertaste - my tongue felt remarkably astringent.

I was somewhat underwhelmed with this. Felt myself at times just trying to finish it to get rid of it. Southampton usually cranks out some quite flavorful, satisfying beers, but this didn't meet my expectations - which maybe weren't too high to begin with...

EDIT: (10/17/10) Heard a talk by Phil Markowski recently where he explained the differences between Saison, Biere de Garde, and Biere de Mars. Much subtle info I wasn't aware of - quite interesting. Hoping that I can approach this more aware next time.

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