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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966
BA SCORE
3.9/5
106 Ratings
BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
BrewDog
Scotland, United Kingdom
brewdog.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Port Dundas 1966 barrels

Added by brewdlyhooked13 on 11-10-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
65
Ratings:
106
pDev:
10.51%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
4
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Trade:
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Photo of mfnmbvp
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 fl oz. bottle, Batch No. 013, bottled on 02/02/2008, aged nearly seven years. My first of any of the Paradox beers from BrewDog, this one their "imperial stout aged in a former Port Dundas 1966 cask". My 1000th beer review on BeerAdvocate, and I couldn't be more excited. Acquired this gem from the local Ardmore Station Liquors.

Poured into a Duvel tulip glass.

A - Served cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption; it pours a dark chocolate brown; opaque in the glass with hardly any conjuration of head, merely some mocha colored bubbles. The beer has clearly lost a lot of carbonation over the course of time, and appears much more watery and less viscous than I had imagined.

S - The aroma comes through nicely, but it has also noticeably fallen off. Notes of chocolate, cocoa, vanilla, oak wood, some indistinct raisin / plum / fig dark fruitiness. I suppose very minor alcohol fumes are still detectable.

T - The taste follows the nose - notes of chocolate, vanilla, oak, cream, raisins. A very nice flavor profile, but a bit too tamed by time it seems. No alcohol warmth or presence is noted at all.

M - Smooth and mellow at this point. The carbonation has fallen off ridiculously; the beer is watery at this point.

Overall, like others have said: this beer's best days have come and gone. Glad to have tried it, but it wasn't worth what I paid for it at this point. If anyone is still holding down bottles of this, I'd recommend drinking them ASAP, because this beer is not improving with age. However, I look forward to trying other variants of this beer.

BrewDog Paradox Port Dundas -----3.5/5

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Photo of ShadesOfGray
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter tasting glass. Pours a semi-dark brownish black, fills the glass dark as night...with no head at all, just a couple bubbles around the outside edge. No lacing either.

Aroma is wine-like. Bourbon like notes, bitter-sweet dark chocolate, and of course...very malty.

This came highly recommended, but I'd have to say I'm a little let down. There's definitely some sweet and bitter dark chocolate notes, a strong booze flavor and warmth in the mouth and down the throat...and semi-medium body and smooth. Although, there's a complete lack of carbonation and it's killing the mouthfeel and taste slightly. Overall though, there's some great flavors associated with this beer...even a little oak, just was expecting more.

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Photo of SFLpunk
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz brown glass pry-top.

Appearance: Deep chocolate brown/black, virtually no head with tan bubbles.

Nose: Toasted grain, banana liqueur, "white cherry," some aged vanilla bean, banana leaves, peach and light chocolate.

Palate: Medium bodied and slightly boozy. The alcohol lifts out of the beer. Lots of old vanilla, medium toast, some smoked malt, medium caramel, bitter chocolate. Moderately long finish which switches between bitter stout and lifted old whisky flavors.

Notes: Alcohol cleans up the finish and leaves the mouth with a lighter-bodied impression. Not bad, prefer the Isle of Arran batch.

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Photo of IBUnit63
3.72/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Room temperature into Duvel tulip. Batch 13 with BBD 2/2/2010.

Head of dried ginger comes and goes quickly, leaving wisps up top. Body is slightly turbid yet dark brown - root beer/espresso brown.

Nose is very subtle for malt texture - port and whiskey, along with vanilla oak, dominate here. Oh yeah...the booze is there, too. Big time. Brings out milk chocolate notes. Hops? Noble at most - very mild...grass? Pine? Too mellow to make an impression.

Port shows up here but it's slightly watered down against the oak/vanilla backdrop. Now the roasted chocolate malt comes out more clearly and counters the booze. Even some hop grass shows up.

Palate isn't bad - tight with coffee, booze and a little hoppy grass. A little clammy up front. Not a lot of Beautiful Chemistry here. Pretty disjointed, and finish is sort of tepid.

2 Brewdog offerings sampled so far, with 2 disappointments. This one is OK but there are much better. There's really no synergy to speak of, and that's the real issue. Good individual components and they just don't connect. None have real power to me, either, so I can't imagine age helping too terribly much.

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Photo of camil1mj
3.73/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I have drank a lot of good beer, but this is my first review.

Bottle says best before 2/2/2010. Poured into my Bell's tulip glass at cellar temperature.
A: Dark as night. No light shines through
S: Chocolate with a slight hint of alcohol.
T: This is a lot less intense than I would have guessed from the description. I would use the term weak. Chocolate and whiskey are the two tastes I can really pick up on.
M: The feel is disappointing. it is very thin for my expectations of a barrel-aged stout.
O: This is an average barrel-aged stout. I have had better and worse. The smell is the best thing going for it.

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Photo of sisuspeed
3.74/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter. A thin, off-white, film rests on top of a fairly dark body. Light lacing.

The nose is filled with sweet malts, chocolate, cherries, honey and a touch of sea salt. Nice floral honey notes. Plums and figs. Nice depth. Hint of alcohol.

Vanilla, dark roasted malts, light honey and a touch of dark fruit. Some saltiness and oaky wood. There are some nice notes going on here, but Brewdog has done better than this. Still a tasty brew though.

Mouthfeel is smooth, but unfortunately flat. Some lingering bitterness from the malt and wood. I think the lack of bubbles is hurting this beer the most.

Drinkability is pretty good. This is the third beer in the Paradox series that I've had and it seems that Brewdog knows how to use there barrels. However, the Isle of Arran is still my favorite. Looking forward to trying some of the others.

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Photo of Smurf2055
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Thomas_Picton
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of bbadger
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of neckbracesub
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of mrn1ceguy
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of hopley
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of SteveTheBrit
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Zimm
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Tanktizzo
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Naugros
3.76/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured flat, with just a few bubbles. I can count them if you want. I had to check other reviews to see if maybe what I received was a bad bottle, but this seems to be a common complaint. Not a good start. It's really dark brown and inky, but so are all stouts.

Smells like whiskey with a wee bit of chocolate...sorry, Brew Dog is in Scotland so it should be spelled without an "E". Also, Port Dundas is a Scotch whisky. LOL, spellcheck is saying that I spelled "whisky" wrong. The programmer must have been Irish.

Anyway, back to this beer. It's time to taste it, but I'm afraid to. Courage Beer Samurai, courage. Ooh, it tastes a lot better than it smells. Chocolate and coffee bring in a sweetness that I hadn't expected. The whisky flavor is still there, but mitigated and it seems that the barrel conditioning did more than pick up a whisky flavor, it brought some oak as well. There's a bitterness in the aftertaste, but I can't tell if it's from a hops presence or due to the roasted grains. With no citrus, floral or grassy flavors to be found I'll go with the latter. Do yourself a favor and drink this at room temperature. The whisky is even further mitigated (even if still thought spelled incorrectly) and the bitterness is taken down a notch, letting the sweetness shine through. Much nicer.

It's 10% ABV and it smells and tastes of whisky. So it's going to sound really strange when I say that the alcohol is hidden pretty well. There's no vinous sensation and no heat. Do not confuse whisky flavor with alcohol heat. The beer is satiny in texture and goes down smoothly. Oh yeah, and it's flat.

Not an everyday beer, but more of a "I want to try something a little different" beer. It's nice, I like it, but for my money I'd rather have a Weyerbacher Heresy.

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Photo of erz316
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10, served into la chouffe snifter.

A - christ almighty! have they even bothered to prime any of these goddamn beers?! the head is nothing more than the offspring of the increasingly hard pour i made. the colour is a light cream. the body is super pitch black. looks pretty much like the islay one I just had. I dont really know what to say, they all pretty much look the same disappointing way. these oak casks must be fucking magical because they suck out all the carbonation and body from these brews, except for the very first one I had.

S - this one, however, does smell a bit different. a little less smokiness, less peat, and a bit more malts. there is this a odd caramel-port/sweet wine note that is slightly fruity; maybe even a touch of cocoa powder. the only problem with all of this is that the brew doesn't smell very strongly, it is quite weak and one has to search for the aromas; but they smell pretty good, so i'll bump up the score.

T - the taste is the best so far of the recent ones had. the initial is a huge amount of malts, raisins, figs, some brown sugar, and whiskey spiciness and alcohol. I really enjoy this flavour but I cant find much that makes me think 'stout!'. the fig raisin thing it has going on is quite good; the sweetness from this sensation is most like a brown sugar, with a touch of raw molasses. the finish is much sweeter than would be expected: there is a distinct prune taste, quite very much pruny. the aftertaste is a bit astringent , but mostly malty and charred oaken whiskey. a nice finish for a questionable stout.

MF&D - that is not the texture of an imperial stout, yet again. this one might be the thickest yet of all the recent ones i've tried, but at best it is a medium. the carbonation is still lacking enough to really bring down the score. the drinkability is alright, but I want something big, carbonated, and thick (much like my penis, sans the carbonated aspect)!

I have to approximate what I thought the ratings are, because the goddamn site crashed when trying to submit a review.

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Photo of megahurts4
3.82/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewdog Paradox Port Dundas

Appearance: dark brown, no head, and no lacing.

Smell: caramel and toffee.

Taste: caramel, toffee, and a slight cocoa.

Mouthfeel: medium-light and smooth.

Overall:
This is much lighter than anticipated. The flavors are subtle and rich.

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Photo of kzoobrew
3.82/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours beep brown almost black. Nearly opaque, light only penetrates the edges leaving faint ruby high lights.. Even when poured vigorously there is no head.

Very nice whisky aroma. Big time vanilla aroma. There may be some chocolate scents in there but I am losing much of it behind the vanilla and whisky aromas.

Flavor is heavy on the scotch up front. roasted malt and some chocolate flavors coming up behind. Slight touch of vanilla though far less than what is picked up by the nose. The woodiness of the oak and the whisky flavors stick with you long after your last sip.

Mouth feel is rather smooth and creamy. Body is not overly big, but rather comes off slightly watered down. Finishes rather dry.

While this was rather enjoyable it does not live up to expectations. I am glad I have tried this one but will pass on it next time. The concept in better than the brew.

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Photo of dirtylou
3.85/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle - Star. best by 2/2/10, hmm

appearance: poured into oversized snifter - flat pour with almost no head and a very small number of beige bubbles, mahogany body

smell: aroma leans towards scotch and butterscotch, dry malts, not overly complex

taste: smooth and well refined - creamy caramel, butterscotch, milk chocolate, scotch. It barely feels like an imperial stout - the scotch aging is less pronounced then i wasnt overly moved by the base stout

mouthfeel: nice smooth body, creamy, but relatively flat

drinkability: fine

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Photo of gordavidson
3.85/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- A deep, dark brown liquid that has a surprising amount of transparency. The head rises and falls as quickly as Coca Cola. Pretty limp looking.

S- Very mild smelling. I get some whisky, dark fruits, and a bit of smoke.

T- Sweet, dark fruits with a mild whisky flavor. There is some oak, vanilla, and smoke coming through, but overall, this is pretty mild. Sweet and enjoyable.

M- Silky smooth, but maybe a tad thin. The carbonation is barely noticeable. A fairly clean aftertaste, but the roastiness sticks around for a bit.

D- For the ABV and the style, this is a pretty mild beer that drinks fairly easily. This is enjoyable, but KBS blows this out of the water and I would never pay $12 for this again.

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Photo of azdback
3.86/5  rDev -1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Sam Adams Lager glass. Light black color with dark caramel highlights. No carbonation bubbles or head at all. Kinda looks like Coca Cola. There is some stickiness hanging onto the glass from the alcohol, but no lace.

Smells like any well barrel aged stout should. Big notes of vanilla, and whiskey. There is some coffee, and cocoa. Some subtle smokiness. It really smells fantastic.

Tastes like a very thin version of Victory at Sea, which isn't a bad thing. The coffee really comes out in the taste. Followed by vanilla, and alcohol.

Mouthfeel is pretty flat and watery. This is where I am most disappointed. But the bottle does say "best before 2/2/10" So maybe I am just getting to it late, but not surprised I was disappointed.

Overall, I am happy to have tried this. Thanks to matttYCE for this great extra. This is by far the best stout I have had from across the pond by a long shot. A must try if you can get your hands on this.

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Photo of brdc
3.87/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Small capped bottle, poured into a snifter.
Bottle states best by 02/02/10, not sure when this was bottled.

Dark brown color, golden highlights, minimal short lasting dark tan head, no lacing. Quickly, the beer looks as flat as possible.
Aroma is pleasant but tame, whisky, vanilla, oak, faint roasted malts.
Thin on the palate, with minimal carbonation, which detracts from the overall taste and experience.
The taste itself is also tame, pleasant, but needs a bit more power; vanilla, whisky, some roasted malts.
This is a good beer, but somewhat disappointing particularly considering the absurdly high price ($12).

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Photo of tpd975
3.9/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Bosse for sending this one across the pond.

A: Pours a nice dark brownish black with a few bubbles that never really manage to make a head. No retention or lace.

S: Subtle aromas for a barrel aged beer. Hints of sweet molasses, vanilla, oak, and a touch of booze.

T: Nice caramel sweetness up front. Subtle chocolate malt and hints of peat. Fresh oak and subtle vanilla. A hint of bourbon beneath.

M: Not thin overall, but very thin for the style. Fairly still could use a touch of carbonation.

D: Fairly good. Despite being thin and subtle in flavor and aroma it does seem to meld together nicely. Overall it is a tasty beer that is more drinkable than the other Paradox beers I have had.

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Photo of jpell33
3.92/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Good beer but my first from Brewdog, so probably had high expectation going into it.

Poured flat and had distinct flavors from the cask.

Very smooth and sweet taste. Whiskey from the barrel has a distinct impact on the flavor. Good start for me with Brewdog. Can't wait to try some of the other batches.

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Beer rating: 3.9 out of 5 with 106 ratings
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