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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 | BrewDog

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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
BrewDog
United Kingdom (Scotland) | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Port Dundas 1966 barrels

Added by brewdlyhooked13 on 11-10-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Reviews:
65
Ratings:
106
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
10.51%
 
 
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Reviews: 65 | Ratings: 106
Photo of david131
3.85/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- A deep, dark brown liquid that has a surprising amount of transparency. The head rises and falls as quickly as Coca Cola. Pretty limp looking.

S- Very mild smelling. I get some whisky, dark fruits, and a bit of smoke.

T- Sweet, dark fruits with a mild whisky flavor. There is some oak, vanilla, and smoke coming through, but overall, this is pretty mild. Sweet and enjoyable.

M- Silky smooth, but maybe a tad thin. The carbonation is barely noticeable. A fairly clean aftertaste, but the roastiness sticks around for a bit.

D- For the ABV and the style, this is a pretty mild beer that drinks fairly easily. This is enjoyable, but KBS blows this out of the water and I would never pay $12 for this again.

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Photo of WastingFreetime
3.57/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I popped my cellared bottle after reading several reviews below (tl:dr version, it's going downhill at this point) and I 've had pretty much exactly the same experience as the general consensus describes. Only they are much better with words than I am.
So if you've got one of these in your cellars... I'd also recommend drinking now rather than later.

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Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
4.22/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle for $11.99 ea.

Of course this puppy is opaque! a thin and rather fizzy tan colored head dissipates fast and appears pretty relaxed which great since it's been layed down on cask fora while.

The nose has aged leather, musty dates, spicey raisins, herbal whiskey and a heat tingle. Dark and dank berries with roastie and sweet malt aroma's. Smells very much like the 30-year old Courage IRS i had last year...without the oxodized effects. Bold aroma's of old leather and berry sweetness makes this one unique indeed.

Very roastie malts hits first with herbs and camp-fire effects. Oats and wheat in the malt which has a bunch of unique complexity is balanced by a very subtle hoppy bitterness that settles into dry leaf with thyme and white pepper. Vanilla just bursts out of the malt, which is gained from the cask aging, and just a slight bit of not-so-sweet chocolate. This one might have just too much vanilla and aged furniture for my taste, but it's unique. A mellow whiskey-like heat without any of the actual burn sensation. A mellow, aged medium to full feel that is very relaxed, but not slick.

this one was very much like the classic courage IRS, only with more vanilla from the cask.

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Photo of brdc
3.87/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Small capped bottle, poured into a snifter.
Bottle states best by 02/02/10, not sure when this was bottled.

Dark brown color, golden highlights, minimal short lasting dark tan head, no lacing. Quickly, the beer looks as flat as possible.
Aroma is pleasant but tame, whisky, vanilla, oak, faint roasted malts.
Thin on the palate, with minimal carbonation, which detracts from the overall taste and experience.
The taste itself is also tame, pleasant, but needs a bit more power; vanilla, whisky, some roasted malts.
This is a good beer, but somewhat disappointing particularly considering the absurdly high price ($12).

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Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.95/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Went in with a friend on this bottle. Just couldn't justify $12.99 for a 12oz bottle.

Pours a dark brown, nearly black in color. No head forms on the pour. Smell is some rich port, and some dark roasted malts. Even more of the rich port like qualities come through in the taste. Very balanced and well done.
This is just a bit thin to be qualified as an Imperial Stout. Not close to some of the more viscous, fuller bodied Imperial Stouts out there.
Decent beer, but definitely not worth the price of the bottle. I could get two 12oz bottles of Bourbon County and still have some money left over.

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Photo of coldmeat23
4.49/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 50 degrees
BATCH: 013 BEST BY: 02/02/10

This pours a super dark brown color. There isn't much of a head at all, just a small island of bubbles, in the middle of the surface. Lacing is in small spots and tiny strands and fairly sticky.

The bourbon notes and the maltiness really achieve a very good level of balance, in this one. Malt notes are both sweet and roasty. Nice presence of oak, vanilla, honey and a hint of floral. Mild hints of caramel and cocoa powder and peat smokiness.
This is the best, most balanced, nose that I've yet to find from any of the Brewdog Paradox series.

The taste is almost as good as the smell. A nice, rich, maltiness is balanced by the dry, light smokiness, that is imparted by the barrel aging. Hints of cocoa, tobacco, vanilla, leather, oak and light touches of dark fruits. Light notes of blackstrap molasses.

I really think that mouthfeel is where these beers fall short. This one is a medium, almost full, bodied beer. It has a very light level of carbonation. Sure, it's smooth and easy to drink, just like water or juice. It's sadly lacking any real creaminess, which I think is a shame. Then again, I didn't make the beer, so who am I to complain. As far as that goes, I will buy their beers, whenever I can, because I do enjoy them.

I'm knocking of a bit for the lack of any real body. Other than that though, I could personally drink quite a few of these. Until that 10.00%abv knocks me down, that is.

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Photo of azdback
3.86/5  rDev -1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Sam Adams Lager glass. Light black color with dark caramel highlights. No carbonation bubbles or head at all. Kinda looks like Coca Cola. There is some stickiness hanging onto the glass from the alcohol, but no lace.

Smells like any well barrel aged stout should. Big notes of vanilla, and whiskey. There is some coffee, and cocoa. Some subtle smokiness. It really smells fantastic.

Tastes like a very thin version of Victory at Sea, which isn't a bad thing. The coffee really comes out in the taste. Followed by vanilla, and alcohol.

Mouthfeel is pretty flat and watery. This is where I am most disappointed. But the bottle does say "best before 2/2/10" So maybe I am just getting to it late, but not surprised I was disappointed.

Overall, I am happy to have tried this. Thanks to matttYCE for this great extra. This is by far the best stout I have had from across the pond by a long shot. A must try if you can get your hands on this.

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Photo of SFLpunk
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz brown glass pry-top.

Appearance: Deep chocolate brown/black, virtually no head with tan bubbles.

Nose: Toasted grain, banana liqueur, "white cherry," some aged vanilla bean, banana leaves, peach and light chocolate.

Palate: Medium bodied and slightly boozy. The alcohol lifts out of the beer. Lots of old vanilla, medium toast, some smoked malt, medium caramel, bitter chocolate. Moderately long finish which switches between bitter stout and lifted old whisky flavors.

Notes: Alcohol cleans up the finish and leaves the mouth with a lighter-bodied impression. Not bad, prefer the Isle of Arran batch.

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Photo of BradLikesBrew
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Imperial Stout aged in 1966 Port Dundas cask which was first home to American Bourbon before being shipped across the Atlantic for Scottish Grain Whiskey.

Nearly black body. The aroma is packed with figs which will become a trend later on. Figs, toffee and vanilla dominate the aroma. It tastes like a damn Fig Newton. Rich stone fruit permeates the body. The cask shows itself in the form of light vanilla, oak, and peat notes.

Good balance here and much like the Glen Grant, this one goes down very easy. Smooth, lightly carbonated, this is a very dangerous beer. ABV hides nicely. This beer's style may say America, but the subtlety and drinkability says Scotland.

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Photo of barleywinebrewer
4.52/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A - nice black brew with a wisp of red at the edges. Soft off white head that quickly dissipates.
S - vanilla, oak, abv warmth
T - vanilla, whiskey, oak, sweet dark malts swirl in a velvety sinful mix.
M - medium full bodied, nicely carbonated with a silkey smooth texture.
D - wow, this is great. I could sip and savor this again and again.

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Photo of IBUnit63
3.72/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Room temperature into Duvel tulip. Batch 13 with BBD 2/2/2010.

Head of dried ginger comes and goes quickly, leaving wisps up top. Body is slightly turbid yet dark brown - root beer/espresso brown.

Nose is very subtle for malt texture - port and whiskey, along with vanilla oak, dominate here. Oh yeah...the booze is there, too. Big time. Brings out milk chocolate notes. Hops? Noble at most - very mild...grass? Pine? Too mellow to make an impression.

Port shows up here but it's slightly watered down against the oak/vanilla backdrop. Now the roasted chocolate malt comes out more clearly and counters the booze. Even some hop grass shows up.

Palate isn't bad - tight with coffee, booze and a little hoppy grass. A little clammy up front. Not a lot of Beautiful Chemistry here. Pretty disjointed, and finish is sort of tepid.

2 Brewdog offerings sampled so far, with 2 disappointments. This one is OK but there are much better. There's really no synergy to speak of, and that's the real issue. Good individual components and they just don't connect. None have real power to me, either, so I can't imagine age helping too terribly much.

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Photo of DavidST
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 33cl bottle into a snifter, bottled on 2/2/08 (I didn't realize how old this was when I bought it). This pours a pitch black color with absolutely no head, completely flat. The smells are of dark roasted malts, oak and vanilla. The feel is medium almost no carbonination. The taste is okay , milder than I expected, you get the roasted malts and vanilla, but far more subdued than I expected (this isn't bad, but not worth the $14 per bottle).

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Photo of Bfarr
3.29/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2/8/08
Dark brown with no retention. Light chocolate and vanilla aroma. Light fruit with molasses and chocolate ending in a light vanilla sweetness. Fairly robust, smooth mouthfeel.

Not as complex as the Isle of Arran but pleasant although a little to the sweet side a pleasant beer all around.

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Photo of bobhits
3.52/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 4.5

Best buy 2/2/2010 so not sure when this was bottled but there's a touch of age on it.

Flat, created a quick head that vanishes promptly. Not much body. Sweet to the tongue. Amazingly smooth, the alcohol is non existent. The whiskey flavors here are amazingly subtle though I'd assume the whiskey they made was pretty darn smooth.

I'm not normally impressed by such a thin/watery beer, but this tastes wonderful. This bottle has just vanished, amazingly drinkable. A failure in many aspects but a success where it matters most.

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Photo of Patrick999
4.24/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 013, best by 2/2010.

Poured into a DFH snifter with very minimal head. Nearly flat dark brown. I know from experiences with the other Paradox bottles that this does *not* mean it's a bad beer. It just isn't amazing eye candy, that's all.

Aroma of Raisinets, rum, butter cookies, and a little Scotch. Doesn't seem to be as much of a smoke bomb as the Islay or Smokehead.

Well, this tastes simply excellent. I have no complaints about this at all. Raisinets in the flavor as well, though unsweetened. Scotch, yes, but not heavily smoked. Smooth, barely a hint of alcohol heat.

Feel is flat and a little thin, but I think I've said this before, the flat feel works with these beers and contributes to their drinkability. Very nice.

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Photo of kzoobrew
3.82/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours beep brown almost black. Nearly opaque, light only penetrates the edges leaving faint ruby high lights.. Even when poured vigorously there is no head.

Very nice whisky aroma. Big time vanilla aroma. There may be some chocolate scents in there but I am losing much of it behind the vanilla and whisky aromas.

Flavor is heavy on the scotch up front. roasted malt and some chocolate flavors coming up behind. Slight touch of vanilla though far less than what is picked up by the nose. The woodiness of the oak and the whisky flavors stick with you long after your last sip.

Mouth feel is rather smooth and creamy. Body is not overly big, but rather comes off slightly watered down. Finishes rather dry.

While this was rather enjoyable it does not live up to expectations. I am glad I have tried this one but will pass on it next time. The concept in better than the brew.

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Photo of Naugros
3.76/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured flat, with just a few bubbles. I can count them if you want. I had to check other reviews to see if maybe what I received was a bad bottle, but this seems to be a common complaint. Not a good start. It's really dark brown and inky, but so are all stouts.

Smells like whiskey with a wee bit of chocolate...sorry, Brew Dog is in Scotland so it should be spelled without an "E". Also, Port Dundas is a Scotch whisky. LOL, spellcheck is saying that I spelled "whisky" wrong. The programmer must have been Irish.

Anyway, back to this beer. It's time to taste it, but I'm afraid to. Courage Beer Samurai, courage. Ooh, it tastes a lot better than it smells. Chocolate and coffee bring in a sweetness that I hadn't expected. The whisky flavor is still there, but mitigated and it seems that the barrel conditioning did more than pick up a whisky flavor, it brought some oak as well. There's a bitterness in the aftertaste, but I can't tell if it's from a hops presence or due to the roasted grains. With no citrus, floral or grassy flavors to be found I'll go with the latter. Do yourself a favor and drink this at room temperature. The whisky is even further mitigated (even if still thought spelled incorrectly) and the bitterness is taken down a notch, letting the sweetness shine through. Much nicer.

It's 10% ABV and it smells and tastes of whisky. So it's going to sound really strange when I say that the alcohol is hidden pretty well. There's no vinous sensation and no heat. Do not confuse whisky flavor with alcohol heat. The beer is satiny in texture and goes down smoothly. Oh yeah, and it's flat.

Not an everyday beer, but more of a "I want to try something a little different" beer. It's nice, I like it, but for my money I'd rather have a Weyerbacher Heresy.

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Photo of sisuspeed
3.74/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter. A thin, off-white, film rests on top of a fairly dark body. Light lacing.

The nose is filled with sweet malts, chocolate, cherries, honey and a touch of sea salt. Nice floral honey notes. Plums and figs. Nice depth. Hint of alcohol.

Vanilla, dark roasted malts, light honey and a touch of dark fruit. Some saltiness and oaky wood. There are some nice notes going on here, but Brewdog has done better than this. Still a tasty brew though.

Mouthfeel is smooth, but unfortunately flat. Some lingering bitterness from the malt and wood. I think the lack of bubbles is hurting this beer the most.

Drinkability is pretty good. This is the third beer in the Paradox series that I've had and it seems that Brewdog knows how to use there barrels. However, the Isle of Arran is still my favorite. Looking forward to trying some of the others.

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Photo of megahurts4
3.82/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewdog Paradox Port Dundas

Appearance: dark brown, no head, and no lacing.

Smell: caramel and toffee.

Taste: caramel, toffee, and a slight cocoa.

Mouthfeel: medium-light and smooth.

Overall:
This is much lighter than anticipated. The flavors are subtle and rich.

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Photo of ShadesOfGray
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter tasting glass. Pours a semi-dark brownish black, fills the glass dark as night...with no head at all, just a couple bubbles around the outside edge. No lacing either.

Aroma is wine-like. Bourbon like notes, bitter-sweet dark chocolate, and of course...very malty.

This came highly recommended, but I'd have to say I'm a little let down. There's definitely some sweet and bitter dark chocolate notes, a strong booze flavor and warmth in the mouth and down the throat...and semi-medium body and smooth. Although, there's a complete lack of carbonation and it's killing the mouthfeel and taste slightly. Overall though, there's some great flavors associated with this beer...even a little oak, just was expecting more.

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Photo of ricknelson
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Our group of 4 Beer Advocate members did a recent small bottle tasting of high alcohol brews.
Among the 12 brews tasted was; Paradox Port Dunas Americam Double imperial Stout from BrewDog. This brew did not do well in our tasting finishing dead last in 12th with an average
rating of 3.50. Although the age of this bottle was likely the reason. It was 6 years old. The other
BrewDog we tasted (Tokyo) finished 4th with an average rating of 4.25

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Photo of StoneBrewFanatic
4.19/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Batch 013 Bottled 02/02/08

A - Pours extremely dark brown, almost black into my snifter with just a thin later of head that dissipates into a thin ring around the glass, virtually no retention or lace.

S - The bourbon notes are just fantastic, nicely balanced with the sweet roasted malts, notes of oak, vanilla, caramelized sugars, cocoa, and a little smokiness as well.

T - Rich and malty, smoke is more present in flavor, dry cocoa/espresso bitterness, molasses, oak, vanilla, tobacco, and some dark fruit notes.

M - Don't know if it's just the age or how it was made but really lacks carbonation and any kind of creamy balance that comes from it.

O - This smells and tastes delicious, it just really falls short in the mouthfeel and body department. Still would recommend trying if given the chance though.

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Photo of olympuszymurgus
4.84/5  rDev +24.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

part 2 in a series

Is this even legal? Are we allowed to have this much fun? isn't the economy failing and atmosphere warming and everything just falling into a pile of rubble?

Poured into a pint glass, along with three other paradoxen. The smell is scotch. I actually feel inadequate in tasting it, because my knowledge of scotch is so limited. The taste, well, its everything from licorice and caramel to peat and smoke, dead british soldiers and virgin redheads.

Best served with bloody meat, good friends, and sillyness. The perfect beer for these uncertain times.

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Photo of erz316
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10, served into la chouffe snifter.

A - christ almighty! have they even bothered to prime any of these goddamn beers?! the head is nothing more than the offspring of the increasingly hard pour i made. the colour is a light cream. the body is super pitch black. looks pretty much like the islay one I just had. I dont really know what to say, they all pretty much look the same disappointing way. these oak casks must be fucking magical because they suck out all the carbonation and body from these brews, except for the very first one I had.

S - this one, however, does smell a bit different. a little less smokiness, less peat, and a bit more malts. there is this a odd caramel-port/sweet wine note that is slightly fruity; maybe even a touch of cocoa powder. the only problem with all of this is that the brew doesn't smell very strongly, it is quite weak and one has to search for the aromas; but they smell pretty good, so i'll bump up the score.

T - the taste is the best so far of the recent ones had. the initial is a huge amount of malts, raisins, figs, some brown sugar, and whiskey spiciness and alcohol. I really enjoy this flavour but I cant find much that makes me think 'stout!'. the fig raisin thing it has going on is quite good; the sweetness from this sensation is most like a brown sugar, with a touch of raw molasses. the finish is much sweeter than would be expected: there is a distinct prune taste, quite very much pruny. the aftertaste is a bit astringent , but mostly malty and charred oaken whiskey. a nice finish for a questionable stout.

MF&D - that is not the texture of an imperial stout, yet again. this one might be the thickest yet of all the recent ones i've tried, but at best it is a medium. the carbonation is still lacking enough to really bring down the score. the drinkability is alright, but I want something big, carbonated, and thick (much like my penis, sans the carbonated aspect)!

I have to approximate what I thought the ratings are, because the goddamn site crashed when trying to submit a review.

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Photo of nickthetick
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: pure black into my trusted Duvel tulip with a few light tan bubbles.
S: GOOD GOD! This smells like my first shot of scotch all over again but with a little dark cocoa and some roasted malt. Frightening overall smell.

T: surprisingly smooth, not at all what the nose suggest. A oaky wood and vanilla flavor right up front. Some roasted malt sweetness and dark chocolate notes. Smokey in the back and I could notice the alcohol but its not overpowering.

MF: medium body, oily and a tad chewy. Flat as my middle school girlfriend (extremely) and warming in the mouth.

D: a nice beer when you can get over the smell, from what I've read in other reviews flat is not a "my bottle only" problem. The price cuts down on the drink ability also.

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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 from BrewDog
87 out of 100 based on 65 ratings.
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